Hey Guys
I think most of us think about retirement too late- or not at all. You might be still thinking that your children are the best retirement policy ever…wake up you’re wrong. You have to decide to take your retirement into your hands. I decided to prepare a simple yet important document on some basic things that you need to consider as you on the right path to retirement.
Firstly your retirement security can be broken down in the following:
1. Insurance
2. Health Security
3. Housing Security
4. Debt and Asset Management
5. Financial Portfolio
So whenever you think retirement, make sure the above factors are always considered. You should therefore be aiming at using the years before retirement to solidify them. Treat them individually, but always remember that they have a collective effect on your retirement security. (I will post blogs on each of these factors soon)
Basic steps towards establishing your retirement security:
1. Estimate roughly how much money you’ll need to live on in retirement.
2. Once you have an idea of how much you’ll need for retirement, calculate what will be available from sources other than your savings, e.g. pension.
3. Get out of debt. If you carry thousands of dollars of credit card balances and pay the minimum payments each month, your potential retirement savings is going directly to your credit card company in the form of interest. Paying only the minimum payment on credit cards is one of the worst financial mistakes you can make.
4. Please ensure that most of your money is not in the bank, you really don’t get any significant interest from banks. Here are accounts you should consider starting and CONSISTENTLY putting money towards:
• Mutual funds accounts. (SECURE)
• A retirement fund. You may also consider a golden harvest/egg account or a credit union account where you receive interest rates NO LESS THAN 11% (in JA).
• A high return investment such as bonds, stocks, and securities, foreign currency trade clubs (stay clear of High Yield Investment Programs). ONLY INVEST MONEY THAT YOU WON’T HAVE A HEADCHE LOOSING!
DON’T PUT YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.
5. Always be on the look out for great investment opportunities. But always be cautious, and get as much information as possible.
6. Consider taking advantage of the Real Estate benefits.
• If you are not a homeowner utilize Low mortgage opportunities (For example; within the next two (2) years, the Jamaican government will be erecting a number of housing developments. The first of the series is the 46 house development in the Portmore vicinity. The Price is 3.8 Million with a little over $20,000 as mortgage payment per month. )
• If you already own your own home, you may want to consider purchasing and renting.
MORE PEOPLE ARE REACHING THEIR RETIREMNT GOALS IN THE 21ST CENTURY ONLY BECAUSE THEY GET UP EACH DAY AND INTENTIONALLY WORK AT IT. YOUR DECISIONS ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF YOUR DESTINY. DECIDE TO RETIRE RICH – YOU CAN DO IT!
MOREOVER, REMEMBER THAT EVEN AFTER YOU HAVE REACHED RETIREMENT AGE YOUR SAVINGS AND INVESTMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.
START NOW!!!
______________________________________________________________________________
Andre P. Llewellyn 2007 ©
Flarra said,
November 21, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Hi, heard there was a riot in Half Way Tree today because Cash Plus locked its doors.
And does anyone know why WorldWise is no longer taking wires?
DH said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:58 am
nobody here yet???!!!
Kevin2 said,
January 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm
We are coming. Just wait. There is an incorrect link on the other page.
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Found it
JK said,
January 9, 2008 at 12:35 pm
i was at worldwise this morning i was thinking of pulling out ……..there was somewhat of a bombrush there as alot of ‘partners’ who obviously do not have internet access have been complaining about not recieving their money to their accounts……….only to be told that there was a notice issued that pay outs will be effective starting today…. thats their problem
any ways A WHOLE LOT of ppl were still puting in fund…….
something in my mind clicked an i jus decided to stay and ride it out…..im young and i can afford to rebuild the little i have invested but i really dont wanna lose it
all i can do is hope all goes well…..
i overheard one rep talking about the whole withholding tax thing and that there are in talks with the fsc and govt as stated in the letter from the chairman (mr strachan)
over all i sensed that alot of persons were anxious (as was i) but i leaving everything in the hands of God an hope for the best
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 1:12 pm
JK, appreciate that feedback, though I’m not in WW(…yet),
Folks have been asking me about it, especially since no referral needed…so good to hear that things continuing…
Curious though about the w/holding tax, as there is a definition in Income Tax Act, about a prescribed institution for that purpose..so if these clubs are to w/hold, then the Govt must be amending the ITA too….now how long will it take to get all the required changes in place???..
Also, there was mention of pending cease and desist orders…is that just a way to buy the Govt/regulators time to sort themselves out, and also to see who else will fold…ie the true “Ponzis”…hhhmmm
There should be more job openings at FSC, TAD, FID…with all this cease and desisting and tax collecting, not to mention protection of the poor, downtrodden and victimized “investor”…..as far as I know these agencies do not have the resources to do what is now being asked……..so it will be real confusion, when right hand dont have a clue what left hand doing, or what he right hand ought to be in fact doing in the first place.
Fun and games….NOT.
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 1:24 pm
DH…email to you bounced….. has your email changed? Pls confirm ..thanks.
DH said,
January 9, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I got a mail from you, hotmail.com must be acting up
Sharonette said,
January 9, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Well…The front page of the Gleaner today would certainly cause panic in Jamaica. HW dont look too good at all…but Oneil, I am still waiting until Feb to see what is really happening. Probably since the defendant won the law suit HW might do the right thing and return investors money just incase they end up in many more legal battle of this kind
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 2:20 pm
defendant probably sued HW using profits from Olint…haha
mrs C said,
January 9, 2008 at 2:33 pm
fellow bloggers i need your opinion on this one got a call form an exclusive club offering a new product it is where you deposit US$1000 and after 150 days excluding weekends you will get back US$42000 is this possible it sounds too good to be true.
Sharonette said,
January 9, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Good one…..HD
Mrs.C …
That sounds like the amount you would get if you invested with minvestments..the main difference being the weekends being excluded…What does that investment club ‘invest’ in and are they local?
DH said,
January 9, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Jcan
Could give mi a link at daneal95@HOTMAIL.COM
lover said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:15 pm
JK, appreciate that feedback
i am going to ride the wave also. Please elaborate some more on the withholding tax issue..
Thanks in advance…
100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Anyone that need a referral to M__ let me know i will not be selfish like the rest of our fellow bloggers but i will be very cautious with my referrals, as far as i ‘am concerned i spoke to customer service in TC and i will be visiting on 23rd they said it was fine to refer people i feel i can trust. I will be looking through the blog to see the people that have been contributing since the start of this blog to make my decision. As the PM say No one has to be poor.
Please don’t ask me for referrals to M__ unless you have been on this blog from early 2007. I think that’s fair enough this way I can weed out the ones that have just come to seek without knowing.
100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:25 pm
So Mr. Million Dollar Man, you posted and then left us…I guess like many u read and absorb, I like that too…might I dare to ask if I qualify?. Pls let me know. Thanks in advance
meikle61@gmail.com
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:25 pm
JK, much appreciated feedback.
100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN, nuff respect.
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:28 pm
oops, I left off the 100
DR said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Mrs C…that sounds like “M”……do I beg you DON’T put $1000 unless you can afford to lose so much….Put $200 or less…you’d be far better off…losing only $200 after 7 months…..
Patricia, Is there a law that limits interest to 13% per annum…… Isn’t that why Bill and Michael highest offer is 12% ? Please clear this up?
Even If “WW” went down to 9% per month after tax I’d be happy….. because I am planning to get registered in Panama/TCI….hahahah where we can all get 15% all the way up to 20%…..sounds good….
What’s wrong with an on-shore 9% and an off-shore 20%? Damn!
Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Mr. 100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN you can’t be doing that, I am going to notify my friends at MD so that they can take away your account.
Did you not read my post yesterday after what Anonymous did?
Sharonette said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Million $Man ….Like Pat could you please say if i qualify. I havent been here since early 2007, but I guess you could judge for yourself who you think can be referred. My email address is shergambino@yahoo.com
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Who the hell died and left you Queen. I guess annonymous was correct about you. Selfish and all the other adjectives. Give the people a chance.
The Real Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:48 pm
#20 please don’t impersonate me – you are quite evil and idle might I add
The Real Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I have not been saying anything all day after yesterday but I have been reading – I had no problem with Million Dollar’s decision. Some idle individual just changed their name and is impersonating me – how stupid and idle can one get.
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:53 pm
DR…there is the Money Lenders Act..(think thats the name) that states the maximum limit an entity, that is not exempt, like banks and other prescribed financial institutions can charge..honestly dont remember the amount but its in that range…thats why there is the argument that if the “lenders” should sue C+ on the contracts they cant claim interest higher than what the law allows….
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:54 pm
The Real Carol: Sorry for my comment. Yes I am truly sorry.
JK said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:54 pm
tax withholding is when they pay the govt tax from our profit so we will end up with like 9% a month which is still damn good i am more than willing to live with that ……. as i was informed they are in talks with the relavant authorities…….. what is interesting to note…. is the way in which worldwise is set up in comparison to the other clubs/investments.
they say the incorperate partnerships for members an they work for our business/partnerships and do the clerical work etc…. and it is our so called partnerships that conduct businesses offshore in the form of forex …..they are agents for us and act on the partnerships behalf…….if this is so based on my understanding…..inorder for the govt to issue a desist order they would have to go after these individual partnerships…..correct me if im wrong i just did business law as a single course so i have basic knowledge of law
from my understanding as agents worldwise themself as an entity cannot be touched as they act as out agents making these partnerships the ones who are liable………. is it so….
but in any even they are in talks with the govt about becoming regulated an transparent….. it seems to be that WW has been proactive in its efforts…..but only time will tell
million dollar man i am interested on the M………. u can email me at racer2g@hotmail.com we can communicate there ..
The Real Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm
That’s okay FuzzyOriginal – I would be mad at “me”too – if I was the rest of you and thought that I made that comment.
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm
aaaww c’mon folks….stop this now..please!!! Enough already…..whoever is impersonating Carol…nuh badda wid dat man …cho….
di place done get too tense an’ paranoid ah ready.
Investment Tech said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:00 pm
People let us start the new page with some new attitude. Lets not fuss and fight over little things. Ever wondered why the blackman never fulfil his or her potential, its because we fight each other, if this was a chinese web blog ever one would be pulling together not apart.
People seeking MD referrals are free to do so. People giving referrals dont post it on the blog, always make sure you can vouch for the person you give the referral.
People if someone doesnt give you a referral dont get upset, you know the investment thing has gotten very sensitive now and people are not sure where they stand, so people will be over protective.
people you will eventually get referrals. 100milldollarman method i agree with so if you stick it out you will be rewarded
let peace rain
The Realer Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I agree with Carol…or should that be The Real Carol
The Real Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I agree with you Investment Tech
POSITIVE said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:23 pm
According to what I see from the case with HW. He is not willing to pay investors any money!!!. All who are serious about getting back some money need to come together !!!! There is no way a company can take so long to be registered,you are giving some people time to cover up !!!!!People we have to come together !!!
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Who is so god damn idle now ?….if I could come over the internet and kick somebodies ass.
Anthony said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Hi guys how did you start the party without me. Better days a come a dat we want fi si, money in a wi packet a dat wi wan fi si.
Enlightened said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Just to point out there really is no limit to the amount of interest that a bank can pay to its customers… remember that a couple of years ago banks were paying 20+ percent and in the mid 90 banks paid as high as 40+ percent per annum and charged overdraft interest rates as high as 100+percent per annum (both scotia bank and ncb benifited during this period)
The money lending act stipulates some exceptions to the act:
Any company licensed under the financial institutions act
Any company licensed under the banking act
” Any loan or contract or security for the repayment of money lent at such rate of innterest not exceeding such rate per annum as the minister may be order*prescribe…( to be read not exceeding the 13% govt paper rate.. or what ever rate govt paper is … which is why the number keeps moving between 10 and 13 percent)
Which is why banks still lend at 20+ percent and they would be entitled to pay you way more than 13% per annum they just dont want to.
notmyrealemail said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:43 pm
hey Real Carol, can you email me. I would love to hear your opinion on a certain matter.
009notmyrealemail@gmail.com
Enlightened said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:44 pm
DR i hope the above helped.
DR said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Thanks Patricia for the explanation earlier…. Hope all other bloggers have taken note…:
I have some questions for Mr PONZI?
Why not Argentina…? Why are you gone somewhere ELSE NOW? Why you did not show up for court? WHY! WHY!……
DR said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Thanks Enlightened…RESPECT!
ensley said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:47 pm
million dollar man
please for a referral
smith08us@yahoo.com
mrs C said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:49 pm
#12 sharonette
they say the are in forex trading and stocks yes they are based in JA
DR…. thanks for your opinion but im not sure if they will be willing to accept lower than a US$1000. Also he said i am only allowed to refer a couple people.
DR said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Ok Mrs C….. well only if you are BRAVE….. 150 days is a long time…
You’d be better off putting the same $1000 in Minvestment – - you’d get $184,908.37 when it is all over….
The truth is: I am not sure you would collect either ! ! ! very risky
By the way, I am a member of Minvestment… but with less than $100…. hoping to collect $9000 before it CEASE and DESIST…… hah hah hahah
Anthony said,
January 9, 2008 at 4:57 pm
It was a beautiful holiday and it seems it is going to be a beautiful 2kgreat.
For all the investors, lenders, partners or just plain club members who have been knocked over by all the happenings just look at the bright side, at least you are still here with us and once there is life there is……
One lesson we are all learning is that this game we play is not for everyone and when the weak at heart joins without putting in a strategy to at least minimize the risk they run for money at the slightest hint of trouble and then cause a chain reaction which is dangerous to these CLUBS.
My one wish is these weak hearts will at least call it a day and go back to Michael and Bill so we the real soldiers for the cause of empowerment can continue to do what we enjoy doing, making money.
BIG UP Sister Pat, all the D’s in the house Carol and all who have continued the fight for empowerment.( IF U NO SEE U NAME AND U KNOW U A REAL SOLDIER JUST BIG UP)
A special big up to VMS, she warned us over and over about HIGGINS.
Sharonette said,
January 9, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Thanks for the big up Anthony…I didnt see my name so that makes me a REAL SOLDIER…
Mrs.C….as DR said, if you brave enough go for it. I would take it a step further to say, if you can afford to lose that $1000, then you can try it.
Talking bout Minvestments, JB or TB you were sending referals left right and center for minvest….have you reached your 150 days yet and have you seen the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?
DR..probably Fancy D could forward your questions to Mr Ponzi….sorry that was supposed to be Sir.Max and hear what he has to say.
TRIGGA said,
January 9, 2008 at 5:34 pm
100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN
JUST FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR OFFER FOR A REFERAL
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT .PLEASE EMAIL WITH MORE INFO
GOD BLESS!!
triggapress@yahoo.com
MoneyChimp said,
January 9, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Million Dollar Man, We appreciate the gester. Please let me know if i’m qualifed? haga147@yahoo.com. Much respect if i’m not.
MoneyChimp said,
January 9, 2008 at 5:47 pm
i’m glad we now have a new page. The last page like the others was just killing my cpu.
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm
DR,
That is a good move I must say. If you can collect 9000 off of 100 great….if not you would not have lost much. If you get the 9000 you can then put it into May Daisy…..haha
Kevin2 said,
January 9, 2008 at 7:49 pm
This FSC thing is really getting to be a bigger and bigger joke.
Check this out:
1) Do you think the FSC have enough staff to deal with the registering of 20+ schemes. Even if they start now they probably wouldn’t be finished for this year and maybe next too. A registration is a lengthy process.
2) WW has a very complicated set up with partners rather than members. Will the FSC issue cease and desisit orders to the thousands of members (or partners) of WW? What nonsense?
3) G. Roper is saying that all these overseas firms with offices here must cease and desist. And that in OLINT’s case they can have OTCI cease and desist. What utter nonsense?
4) You know how I feel about Lattibudierre but I have to add “Will someone please fire G. Roper?!!!” This guy need to leave now!!!! I have known Roper for a while and he has spent all his life in Auditing. His mind has been warped and programmed like an auditor. He clearly is not capable of seeing the need to create new avenues for entrepeneurship to make these schemes flourish. Basically like an auditor, if it doesn’t fit the rule it must be wrong.
Kevin2 said,
January 9, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Oh… and will the FSC issue a cease and desist order for the OLINT AJ Jazz and Blues festival or to the OLINT foundation?
I hope that if there is anyone here with any clout and connection to the organizing committee of the AJ Jazz festival I beg you do..please tell them not to let in FSC or bank senior exectuives to the festival.
Kevin2 said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Guys I am not sure if you all saw this article but I just came across it in the Gleaner of Jan 6, 2008 business section. It seems that we (this blog) have now become famous. Please read.
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080106/business/business4.html
comment said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:20 pm
# 50 Kevin2 where did you hear : And that in OLINT’s case they can have OTCI cease and desist.
Just curious as to what regulation they have on another country such as TCI.
InDeRiver said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I have been lurking for a while ‘money chimp’ put me on to the blog .I have a ? did anybody who clicked on the MD that was first posted get a wrong # call yesterday ..
comment said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:24 pm
No # 54 InDeRiver i just got an expired link.
PonDeBank said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Me lurking to….yes the link expired .anybody hear from HundredMillionDollar man yet?
InDeRiver said,
January 9, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I got that time out message too but 10 -15 min later a call came in asking for some crazy person which is wierd cause I have VOIP THE # is not listed anywhere
United We Stand said,
January 9, 2008 at 9:07 pm
100 Million Dollar Man
Can you please send me a referral to MayDaisy?
kaybron@yahoo.com
Thanks A Million.
Marsha said,
January 9, 2008 at 9:53 pm
100 Million Dollar Man….can you please send me a referral to MD?
Hopefully, you will find me qualified
I have been reading this blog since August 2007, I have a few comments here and there. Thanks in advance.
maxhug920@yahoo.com
Regards,
M.
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:03 pm
100 Million Dollar Please link me if you happen to see me fit. I have questions and would appreciate your referal.
hd_731@yahoo.com
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Anybody have any information on “International Commercial Bank Of Ghana” ?….:D
The Real Carol said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Guys remember to apply for your NHT refunds – its that time again
Patricia said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:32 pm
are you being spammed again? some idiot or the other always claiming to be a manager or something w/ a branch usually asking for your help
Anthony said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Hey Patricia did all go as planned.
HD said,
January 9, 2008 at 10:49 pm
thats right….”some idiot”….still nuh get back him money yet….after how much years him 3.85 million dollar still stuck in a di bank….must be a NCB branch why him nuh get no interest pon it yet.
ITFP said,
January 9, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Hi, The Real Carol, please email me at itfp@hushmail.com. I need to discuss something with you.
Thanks
Vela Invest said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:09 am
100Milliondollar man,
Please send that MD referral,
velainvest@hotmail.com
Thanks
Ness said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:17 am
100 Million Dollar Man,
Please send me a referral to MayDaisy?
shishi_jamaicanbrat@yahoo.com
Thanks.
Appreciated.
JSM said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:42 am
GOOD DAY Ms. Carol: Link me at jsm81065@hotmail.com. You have been on the site you should know who I am. Go back to Cogito (Prev Blog). Read Post on 12/7/07 and 12/14/07. I am the one O’watchDog sent a Cease and Desist Order to (that was funny actually). I felt like I was OLINT.
Anyway, all joke aside contact me please.
Thank you.
DW said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:51 am
I Agree with Anthony ,will the REAL SOILDERS please STAND UP, all SCOUTS should leave. Alternative investing is not for the faint hearted,only for the REAL SOILDERS that can ENDURE.
DW said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:56 am
Sorry SOLDIERS, REAL SOLDIERS
DR said,
January 10, 2008 at 7:12 am
ahhh Sharonette…..ahhh baby…..
YES HD…..take Minvestment profit and put it on The EXCLUSIVE 4!
Have you all notice that it is business as usual for “O” but that the two PONZI’s have to wait 3 months before payout….hmmm?
I wonder why?
BTW, my girlfriend went to “WW” yesterday and had to wait 4 hours….. Noel, please…please…. Don’t start behaving like Premier Plaza……We are FOREX not Ponzi…. Please CEASE and DESIST from that type of long-waiting thing.
DR said,
January 10, 2008 at 7:39 am
Boy oh Boy, seems like the J. Observer had a bad past with Carlos…Oh no….
Not just his investors….but his x-wife suing for US$12million……such a pity….
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20080109T230000-0500_131239_OBS_WIFE_SUES_CASH_PLUS_BOSS_FOR_MAINTENANCE.asp
DR said,
January 10, 2008 at 7:43 am
JObserver: Will the REAL CARLOS HILL please Stand….then..now WIFE SUES!
Carlos must be wishing he could serve CEASE and DESIST on the Jamaica Observer… oh my…
ha h ah ah aahahaa ha aha ahahaaahaha
Patricia said,
January 10, 2008 at 7:45 am
Good morning Anthony….thanks again..BUT I have not seen or heard anything…..later
HD said,
January 10, 2008 at 8:03 am
Will be interesting to see who buys this prime Portland property being sold by Errol Flynn’s estate.
http://www.globest.com/news/1069_1069/latinamerica/167286-1.html
Cleon said,
January 10, 2008 at 8:48 am
Minvestment Update:
I heard about two persons who pulled down a large sum. Independently. One person invested US$1,000 and pulled down about J$13Mill. He got taxed about 3Mill when the bank and BOJ called him to query the wire transfer. Not sure how long ago that one happened.
The other happened in about November last year. I hear that the other person pulled down about J$34Million. I think this was before tax.
I have heard of others who pulled money, but the sum was not as high…..
Just a little update peeps, or for some a big one….still be advised not to invest more than u can loose.
One thing to note, sometimes the people who go in first reap the benefits before trouble sets in “read between the lines”…
Bless
Very Positive said,
January 10, 2008 at 8:58 am
Mr. 100 Milliondollar man,
Please send me a referral to MD to pcammack@nyc.rr.com.
Thanks in advance.
Curves said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:08 am
Guys:
I am a bit flustered and need clarification from savvy experts. I call WB yesterday and was told that they will not be impacted buy the regulations of FSC because they are trading off shore. Doesn’t everyone who trade in FX does this? In, addition they are licensed as a “health and life insurance company.” How will they be affected by FSC?
I also visted WW website and under their Q&A they said no taxes are paid and they are not registerd under the FSC because they are not a financial instutuion. My thing is if WW said they are not a financial institution why are they in talks with the gov’t? If they were getting sound advice from their lawyers they would have known the implications they would get into.
Just my thoughts…..please clarify!
POSITIVE said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:20 am
Everything is handled from Argentina, we are responsible for your accounts. At this time everything is on hold until Feb. 11 but if anything changes we update you.
That was an email I received from HW this morning after emailing them on Monday.
Curves said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:22 am
I can give you a referral to Min. I would also like referral to MD.
Thanks
Sharonette said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:23 am
#52 Kevin 2….I get worried when we’ve been posted in the gleaner, now the whole Jamaica that reads the gleaner and everyone else who has access to the internet will be visiting our blog…..Now we will start having PRIVACY and TRUST issues. In an earilier blog someone suggested that we make this blog official and more formal with log in access and the works
….Andre…if you are listening, I think now is the time.
Cleon, you have a good point…with these ‘ponzis’ early bird catches the worm (and if u early enough u might catch both the fish and the worm).
Better to be late than never isn’t quite the case…If u not early then don’t bother.
Question said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:27 am
Has anyone actually been contacted by 100 Million Dollar Man????
Oneil said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:41 am
re #77 Cleon, all u have been hearing is utter rubbish, people get paid for referals, they will tell u anything u need to hear, so u can invest u hard earned money in what is obviously a ponzi scheme. Serious times ahead in jamaica, due to every body getting used to high return over 10%, now that these doors have closed, people are turning to other investments which are even more pronounced or obvious that they are fraudulent.Minvestments is a big fraud, time alone will tell, didnt u all hear about swiss cash, alot of jamaicans got burned under the quiet, now these people are not willing to to go public and admitt who stupid they were for putting money with Swiss cash.People are burned everyday in the usa, check it out, before u get burned.
Marlene M. said,
January 10, 2008 at 10:12 am
Greetings COMMENT,
Ref prev. blog post. #1506
“If I can also help you or any other with information to my club I will do this in a personal way not on the public forum.”
Blog#1513 requested club infomation. I did not receive it.
Have you forgotten? If so can you reply to icastleleads@yahoo.com.
Thanks
vybzblack said,
January 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
100milliondollar man,
can you please send me a referral to MD. Thanks in advance.
vybzblack@yahoo.com
Question said,
January 10, 2008 at 11:00 am
I just got my MD invitation (I have not started to fund the account as yet). I see where I will need to provide “Character Refernece from a Lawyer, JP, Medical Doctor or Minister of Religion”
I don’t know any of these people who would want to give “character refernece” for me to start an account in MD. Its not like I can ask the Lawyer, JP, Medical Doctor or Minister of Religion to simply address it to “To Whom It May Concern”
Am I the only person with this problem??
Or should I simply go and “purchase” a reference? What do you think?
Question said,
January 10, 2008 at 11:03 am
….I hope the above does not considered “club information”
if so, I am sorry…..you can always email me the response if it cannot be posted here.
Rich Kid said,
January 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
Hi Question…………I am sure you should be able to get a letter from a JP or pastor (letters from 2 different JPs can work) if you don’t know any of the other professions. Even if you don’t know any personally – I am sure you have close friends who know JPs and lawyers, doctors, etc and could vouch for your character. I would not advise you to purchase the references.
Kevin2 said,
January 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
Sir Question,
I can assure you that there are lawyers, doctors and JPs on this site. Don’t know about ministers
But if you are willing to purchase a reference that could be a red flag to your character reference …hahaha
HD said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Question,
trust me …if your Minister knows you well enough to give you a character reference he will give it to you….he probably have some of your offering money in May Daisy already….or maybe you have not been to Church recently….have you ?…I bet not…..if not that is a problem…for you , your reference, and with God….don’t take my comments too seriously I am saying this with a smile….:-D
Cleon said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Oneil # 84,
Cut the bull, every time people try to share some good info. people like u try to down play wat is meant for a good cause. This info i share is coming from a very good and reliable source….what is wrong with you. If it wasnt a reliable source i wudnt have shared the info…..all u hav to do is ignore it, if u thought adawise…..people like u we dont need on this blog….
Cleon said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
and even after sharing the info I urged persons to still be carefull so is not as if i was telling persons to go ahead because it was totally safe to do so….I was just sharing some info i got.
Question said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I do know Lawyers, JPs, Medical Doctors or Ministers of Religion.
The problem is, not only do I not want them to know my business, but I dont think that they are overly inclined to give me a reference for MD….(they are not inlined to attach there names to a MD reference).
I must say that I have gotten reference from these people before without any problems (references for school, work, banks and so forth…all “ligitimate” activities…not for “alternative investment schemes”)
Patricia said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Question, you can email me and I could suggest an option, in terms of how u may raise this with your lawyer.
meikle61@gmail.com
DH said,
January 10, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Question ,
Ask them to write a character reference for you (to whom it may concern), you need not get the details to who its going to
DR said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:09 pm
You don’t need all those documents for Minvestments…..ha ha hah a
You don’t even need a referral for Worldwise…..just walk in!
namekyoyo said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:28 pm
am i the only one bothered by the term “alternative investment schemes” …..it really bothers me that these investment groups are all lumped together and called “schemes”. The use of this word perpetuates the prejudice that the media and banks have against these investment clubs.
Think about it even when there is a so called objective reference to the investment groups the mere inclusion of the word “scheme” imply on some level that these groups are involved in some form of economic misconduct.
Lets start changing the language used to describe what we are doing. remember if you change the way a person speaks you can change the way they think.
Quick side note……some of these groups are schemes COUgh! Minivestment COUgh! LOL
Rich Kid said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I have easily received references from JPs, for Cash Plus and Maydaisy – dem big big in it too…..as fi di lawyer and doctor dem. Its not like these schemes are dealing in anything illegal.
Patricia said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Question, I may not be around so here goes as it is no secret
I understand your point….given that the clubs are required to be registered, as per Cabinet’s decision and FSC’s pronouncement, SOME potential referrers MAY not want to give such a reference now, especially with the FID’s call to action by Wheby.
If MD has not been issued with a cease and desist, then no prob. Also if MD has no “operations” in Ja, again no problem…they are simply an offshore entity with whom you are contemplating a transaction, and as a part of the initial process they require a character reference.
Ask your lawyer for a letter of reference. The Letter can be addressed To Whom It May Concern(confirm with MD, that such a salutation is acceptable).In fact that really should be the heading regardless of whom u get it from.
If there is any concern, such discussions with your lawyer would be covered by lawyer client privilege. This privilege u will not have with a Doctor or Minister of Religion.
You should not need to disclose real specifics, other than u r in the process of discussions with an entity, and what they require of u at this stage. What you are planning to do is not in breach of the law, nor are you getting a character reference in contemplation of committing an offence. All your lawyer is doing is attesting to your character, he/she may not even want to know the details of your transaction.
Delta said,
January 10, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Did any C+ investors receive an email about disbursements to be commenced (now) April 2008?
Question said,
January 10, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Thanx Patricia, I appreciate your professional approach.
Big Man Passing Thru said,
January 10, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Hey Curves Holla Back to r7455t@aol.com regarding your post above,POST 81.
Optimistic said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:01 pm
I would greatly appreciate a referral to MD…100 million dollar man, contact me at jim.laden@yahoo.com
sharon said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:49 pm
How do you post to the blog???
Sharonette said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Sharon…You just did
Sharonette said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Just type and submit comment
sharon said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I have been reading this blog….I am impress I can currently a olint and also learing to trade the forex market anyone here trade the forex???
I try posting early today but it did not go through hence the previous question.
Please disregard the question about posting.
Optimistic said,
January 10, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I have a number of friends who are doctors and they have been alternative investors for up to 4 years now. How do you think they drive all those BMW’s..LOL.
PonDeBank said,
January 10, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Sharon,
feel free fi visit the everything forex page…nuff tings a gwaan ova deh..if yuh ah trada yuh wi fit right een deh
sharon said,
January 10, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Thanks PonDeBank….
XOF said,
January 10, 2008 at 4:41 pm
100milliondollar man,
can you please send me a referral to MD. Thanks in advance.
giosmith@hotmail.com
Rich Kid said,
January 10, 2008 at 4:45 pm
#109…………..they drive BMWs because they are doctors……nothing else
NOW on the other hand …….me, a non-doctor drive a BMW because of the schemes
Sharonette said,
January 10, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Rich Kid …you are my hero…one day I wish to drive a BMW because of the investment club( not scheme).
For now i will keep driving my corolla that people keeping on stopping thinking its a taxi (
(lol)
DR said,
January 10, 2008 at 5:01 pm
It’s seem to be official neither Michael or Bill’s bank will be sponsoring Air J Jazz this year….
Can you imagine David collecting tickets at the gate in Mobay and sees “Bill and Michael” attempting to enter – - He bawls out “CEASE and DESIST”…h ahahahh
Enlightened said,
January 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm
lol
Rich Kid said,
January 10, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Rich Kid said,
January 10, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I need a link at Olint to get some free tickets -usually get them from Digicel but they are not sponsors so I have to buy
Patricia said,
January 10, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Enlightened, I think my next hit single, (remember u r my manager,) will be called Cease an’ Desist. I wonder if I can get Beenie or Sean Paul to collaborate with me?….hey !! David could even be in the background doing the “yeah, yeah”.
oh dear I’ve got to stop this
KMoney said,
January 10, 2008 at 6:09 pm
#101………Yes.
“C+”
Dear Sir/Madam
The Financial Service Commission has issued a cease and desist order
on our company therefore the company cannot process new clients or
make any payouts of disbursement or interest payments to our clients.
We at Cash Plus limited are currently working on merging the Cash Plus
Group of Companies under one entity in order to counter the
restrictions posed by the FSC therefore the company will have to
suspend all monthly interest payments and disbursements until April
2008.
We however encourage our clients to roll the considerations for this
period for which an extra incentive will be given and added to your
principal.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Please contact us with any further concerns/queries you may have and
we’ll be more than happy to assist you as best as possible.
Thank you for doing business with Cash Plus Limited, your support is
greatly appreciated
Yours Respectfully,
Cash Plus Limited
I am Back said,
January 10, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Anybody giving away jazz tickets
GetRich... said,
January 10, 2008 at 10:06 pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
itfp said,
January 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Did anyone hear that WW is looking to relocate to Argentina or this is just a silly rumour?
gary said,
January 10, 2008 at 11:02 pm
@100 Million Dollar Man,
I have posted and contributed from time to time, not too much, but I am on board. If you see it fit please send me a MD invitation, thanks. dezrel@mountaintoseabikeadventure.com
DW said,
January 11, 2008 at 12:09 am
Itfp,It betta be a RUMOUR.
JANSAW said,
January 11, 2008 at 1:27 am
HI EVERYONE….BEEN READING, LEARNING AND ENJOYING THIS BLOG SINCE SEPT 07…THIS IS MY FIRST TIME POSTING …AND I MUST SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE A FORUM LIKE THIS…U ALL ARE APART OF THE GREAT WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE BEING POSTED HERE DAILEY AND I’M TRULY GREATFUL FOR THAT …I LOOK FORWARD EVERYNIGHT TO SIT IN ON THIS BLOG….THANXX A WHOLE LOT TO THE FOUNDER AND TO THE MEMBERS….
I DO HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT WELL FOR ALL HW & C+ MEMBERS!!!
DR said,
January 11, 2008 at 5:57 am
Come on. Bloggers….. We don’t need to beg free tickets…we can afford to pay for tickets now…. Some of us have made money….. The rest of you are RICH already……. Let’s put our support behind David….
We cannot continue to “look” poor…we can now walk with our head up high – - We have been getting along without Michael and Bill, We have been attemoting to buy cars without loans..(hmmm), re-furbish our homes without borrowing..(ouch)…buy new clothes….YES MAN….FREEDOM:
I just heard that I am chatting too much – - I should CEASE and DESIST!
Oneil said,
January 11, 2008 at 6:54 am
Anybody in here ever heard of MONEY EXPRESS , like C+ ,it has crashed check out the gleaner today, more jamaicans are being burned, and no talking about. I heard (2) stories yesterday of people who have alot of money in cash plus, and cant pau dem bills without the likkle interest.My fellow jamaican, only invest what u can afford to lose on risky investment.
bigson said,
January 11, 2008 at 7:04 am
ww in the obsever check it out , good news any way
Sharonette said,
January 11, 2008 at 7:42 am
Man, this is no joke another one crash..MONEY EXPRESS
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080111/lead/lead1.html
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:54 am
Here is the link as posted in #129 about WW
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080110T220000-0500_131279_OBS_WORLD_WISE_TAKES_STEPS_TO_PROTECT_CLIENTS__FUNDS.asp
Enlightened said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:58 am
The stats on money express financial Services are below, and no bank in jamaica has gone into receivership so which “bank” is the managing director talking about? I do hope that his 25 years of experience made him aware that HW wasnt a bank …. because clearly it did not stop him from and i quote “misappropriating the funds”
Money Express Financial Services
Minimum Investment: US$50 000
Interest Rate per month: 10%
Address: 10 Argyle Road Kingston 10
Telephone Number: 946-0276-7/9141
Oneil said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:09 am
131 # I believe that WW is being financially responsible, i hope “O” has something silimilar in the making.
knowledgesponge said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:19 am
Keep up the great information flowing, I’ve been viewing from the “North” for a bit but I felt I had to join. Great to see positive people sharing the wealth of knowledge, continue to give back because the cycle of giving and receiving will only increase.
“The sky is no longer the limit..reach higher”
Vela Invest
Can you please send me the off shore ebook
email: brown__sugar@hotmail.com (2underscores)
And if anyone has the Riches man in babylon Ebook please do the same.
PonDeBank said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:41 am
Mi nuh know ’bout Money Express…but ‘ow mi see it, nuh lef ole eap ah money inna di club, an jus ah roll ova ah gwaan. tek out money regula, dat way onu ah see an’ touch weh onu ah earn. Di $ wont grow as fas, but mi tink seh it safer dah way deh.
Only ‘ope seh dem get back dem $. Imagine ‘ow Bill, Michael and Missa Roper, ah di deh now ah seh See it deh..a nadda one bite di dust….an ah ready fi cease up dem self.
Anyhow evryting is evryting in Jah Kingdom…keep safe good pple.
Dominik said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:41 am
Davies want Shaw to clear the air on the current investment schemes
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080111/lead/lead9.html
Optimistic said,
January 11, 2008 at 11:17 am
Thanks #120 I didn’t get that memo. All that money wasting away in C+ when it could be driving with Miss D….
Adrian said,
January 11, 2008 at 11:26 am
100 Million Dollar Man… Please can you send me a referral to MD. My email is adrian.baugh@juno.com
Enlightened said,
January 11, 2008 at 11:58 am
BTW PAT, i know lovingdeer put out a tune about cash plus (and it was really good).. but it didnt seem to get of the ground, i think it would have been viewed as a free advertisment….
So when you put out the tune we might have to do some guerilla marketing, Selling the cd out of our trunks… we could be the next Jay Z and Damon Dash.
What do you think of the record label name “Alternative I”….
KMoney said,
January 11, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Optimistic (#137),
They didn’t send out that memo/notice as far as I know. I actually emailed them to find out about a “total withdrawal,” and that was their response.
The only thing we can do is wait!!!
Stand tall Soldiers…
Patricia said,
January 11, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Enlightened,
ForexGuy said,
January 11, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Didn’t you all hear what happened to Ricky Azan’s investment company? The foreign bank he was working with went bankrupt and he lost tens of millions of US dollars of people’s money. I know of one person (very very wealthy) who lost JA$18M in this investment.
Let this be a reminder to all of us that these investments are ‘alternative’ and very high risk. Remember to invest only what you can afford to lose, and to recapture and remove your initial investment as soon as you can afford to do so.
Not knocking any investment clubs (as I am a member of one myself), but just reminding everyone to be careful. A lot of people will lose their shirts from these new investment opportunities, and I would hate to see anyone have to go through that.
Take care and invest wisely!
Delta said,
January 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm
#140
I got the email from C+ in response to my query about the scheme. This query was sent from mid Oct 2007. Their non-response really spoke volumes about their customer service (and might I say their operations in light of what happened in the past weeks). I was absolutely flabbergasted by their email response – the same one which #120 posted.
I was a bit apprehensive about posting the email based on the pandemonium created a few weeks back when correspondences from other clubs were posted. But my email from C+ reads similarly.
Enlightened said,
January 11, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Just some more details of money express.
MARY AZAN, OLIVIA 309-7632 MONEY EXPRESS FINANCIAL SERVICES KINGSTON 10 AZAN, RICKY 309-6274 MONEY EXPRESS FINANCIAL SERVICES KINGSTON 10 AZAN,
Patricia said,
January 11, 2008 at 2:16 pm
There are lessons to be learnt from the Money Express situation…..PonDebank, in true Jamaican parlance pointed that out, and the issue was again reiterated by ForexGuy, that is, recapturing your initial investment.
Also for those exploring offshore banks, I strongly suggest that you refrain from simply opening an account online. Do proper research. Be careful about the countries you select, and also the financial institutions you put your money in. It’s not just about the ease with which you can open the account and who has the lowest fees.
Remember we are not just making money, we need to safeguard it.
mrs C said,
January 11, 2008 at 2:33 pm
i want to go to WW tommorrow toa withdraw a portion of my money does anyone know if i can get it without notice.can i get my money right away?RSVP
Enlightened said,
January 11, 2008 at 2:54 pm
The article said that the Money express director admitted to misappropriating the funds but indicated that he never stole anyone’s money.
I think the director should look up the meaning of the word misappropriation before using it…. it means to steal, embezzel, pocket, take, Siphon off or help one’s self to.
He also indicated that it doesnt make sence to discuss what has happened… why does he get to determine that… people need to know what bank their money was placed in and if it really went bankrupt. Full disclosure it clearly important at this point in time. Questions:
1) If he doesnt have the money now they who says that he will have it in a year or 15 months…
2) Is every cent was in this ‘bankrupt bank” how were the returns being made.
3) How does he reasonably expect to pay back investors their money in 12 to 15 months (does he expect to take more persons money?)
4) Was the bank that he was with regulated and do they have deposit insurance if so can he provide evidence (bank statements) showing his claim to fund and are those funds sufficient to repay his liability to customers?
If this does not stand as a shining example of that the FSC has been warning persons about nothing will… These companies should at least have some minimun level of disclosure and all the major directors need to be “Fit and Proper”.
Sharonette said,
January 11, 2008 at 3:00 pm
WW made a very calculated move and they seem to be untouchable…read the story very carefully.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080110T220000-0500_131279_OBS_WORLD_WISE_TAKES_STEPS_TO_PROTECT_CLIENTS__FUNDS.asp
“Popular alternative investment company World Wise is seeking to take steps to secure clients funds by converting them into Government of Jamaica US Eurobonds and other US sovereign securities thereby ensuring clients principal is backed by the government…….”In effect what I am proposing to do is use 80 per cent of the funds under management to buy up securities and use the remaining 20 per cent to trade foreign currencies, that way clients’ funds are secure at all times with a government guarantee. This means that clients’ funds are even more secure than if they held their money in a bank. We have engaged the services of one of the country’s leading commercial banks to help us execute this strategy.”
Anybody care to make a wager on which ‘one of the country’s leading commercial banks ‘ that WW has engaged the services of? Mmmh..who dat sound like NCB or Scotia?….
In October Michael printed full page adv. to distance himself from WW..saying he did not own it and went on to list all the companies that he was ownership of. Him probably don’t own it…but i have a strong feeling….a VERY STRONG FEELING that him CLOSELY affiliated with them.
As the saying goes…if it nuh guh so…it nearly guh so.
Michael said,
January 11, 2008 at 3:18 pm
#143 Delta I am a CP investor since Oct. 17,2007 and have a few friends who joined in November 2007. When was your e-mail received.
DR said,
January 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I knew About Money Express a-long-time-ago: but I never tried to get anymore information as I did not have the start up capital of $50,000 – - no need to tell you, that’s US dollars….ha ha That club is for the Chins, Issas, Stewarts, Clarkes, Henriques…..etc and of course The AZANS (family)…..
(oh I forgot Andre,Patricia and Kevin2) ha ha
What is interesting, is that Money Express is licensed with the FSC, but maybe only as a Cambio….not as a trader….. Ask Yourself this, Was ‘Michael’ or ‘Bill’ a client of MExpress?…… only time will tell…..
‘MLC” may not be a director of WW….but there is something known as
“a past director” or an “in-active director”….or a “director who has a girlfriend” who helps to lead WW…… think and check before you invest……
Anyway It took me 4 hours to get a cheque from WW this morning…. the crowd is beginning to look like Premier Plaza…..ouch….
The new minimum at WW. as of Feb1, 2008 is $5000…… What a leap!
Imagine moving from $1500 all the way to $5000…. Guess, the cost of registration with the FSC might be high….. I wonder……
Patricia said,
January 11, 2008 at 5:25 pm
DR…did I win the lotto and you forgot to tell me????
Patricia said,
January 11, 2008 at 5:30 pm
BTW, was there a news item on Nationwide about probs at WW???..anybody??
KMoney said,
January 11, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Delta (#143),
Prior to their email response relating to the (cease/desist) order, I sent them an email on Oct. 20th 2007 regarding “total withdrawal,” and they responded the following day with documentation on how to do so.
I gathered the required documents, (signed and notorized), sent via email…no response after that. I then called 13 different numbers, provided to me by a source in JA and was unable to speak with anyone.
Their customer service is deplorable.
JSM said,
January 11, 2008 at 5:41 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex_scam#Why_retail_speculators_should_not_be_able_to_beat_the_market
The above Article makes interesting reading for those of you considering trading on your own.
I think it can be done but it just makes it more difficult when you do not have the resources that the BIGGER PLAYERS in the game have.
In the late nineties I used to day trade. But that was a time when you could pick any stock and you made money. Think about it NASDAQ was heading toward 6000 at the time.
Just food for thought.
DR said,
January 11, 2008 at 6:20 pm
yes Pat, The news said there was a run on WW,,,, I suspected this from early December…. WW is safe for now…at least until early Feb….as there might be an agreement between FSC and WW as to them being registered late January/early February…….
The run on WW has not been MAJOR….. notice though, there has not been a run on Olint or The EXCLUSIVES….. There is something different about Olint and the other exclusives……maybe the social complexion, or the legal team…..
People are beginning to trust ‘Noel S’ of WW….that is a good thing…..
Vela Invest said,
January 11, 2008 at 6:58 pm
knowledgesponge,
Check your e-mail
mrs C said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:22 pm
mi cawyn believe sey a tomorrow mi a go a ww and nobody no tell mi if mi ago get the cheque how uno tan so bad. help a sister out. POST # 146
Kevin2 said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:39 pm
DR,
I have never heard of MoneyExpress but you said that Money Express was licensed with the FSC. So here is a club registered with the FSC that crashed. So what is the real benefit of registration? Let the FSC explain that!!!
What about fit and proper? the director claimed that he misappropriated funds. How fit and proper was that? As a registered co. did the FSC know what they invested their money in? And did they receive audited balance sheets? These are some questions that the FSC must answer!!
Also did you notice that because this is a big boys club the media report was very tame……. no name calling unlike C Hill and DS and no mention of potential “scheme” or “ponzi”. This money express sounds very much like C+ to me. The media is clearly biased and with an agenda.
I hope some FSC and media persons are reading this now. They should answer these questions in the media.
HD said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Mr C,
The way I understand it is that you need to request your payment 7 days in advance by email, phone or other means. You also need to withdraw money at the end of each period. That is at the end of each month. If you fail to meet either of these criteria and you wish to receive your funds immediately you may be charged 1% of the amount.
Cheers
Vela Invest said,
January 11, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Hey guys for those of you investing in the stock market take a look at this. Pay attention to the strategy not the sales pitch. It’s a video.
http://www.sovereignsociety.com/offshore2437.html
I am Back said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Hey guys have you heard that Lewfam is no longer taking on new investors nor new funds? It came on the news tonight
HD said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:24 pm
JSM,
That is a good link.
Kevin2,
The bottom line is the rich and powerfull (through the FSC) always gets worried about what the poor masses doing with their money because if they (the masses) are investing it then that means they are not spending money on car, hotels, food, clothing etc and God forbid that the poor masses should lose all their money. However, nobody (the FSC) cares what rich people do with their money because rich people are supposed to spend or invest their money as they please to keep them happy.
DR,
I think the move to $5000 minimum is to change the “appeal” of the company and is probably coming as a recommendation from their government friends they are in discussions with.
XOF said,
January 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Big things a gwan fi WW. Has anyone received their montly interest deposited into their account from ww yet?
Oneil said,
January 12, 2008 at 12:15 am
DR, HD,I was hoping that u all were wrong, but i just checked the FSC website, Money Express is actually registered, i am assuming it is the same company
Chick a Dee said,
January 12, 2008 at 12:26 am
Re Money Express. I am a member and it was a total shock when we heard the news as the Director has had a good reputation. He says he is not running away and he has many assets. The investors are very heavy people , upper, upper middle class. When he announced that the he had lost the funds, nobody showed any emotion. The Director has good friends who are putting up and liquidating assets to get us out of the mess. We think we can get back even the principal as this is SERIOUS money we have invested.
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 6:46 am
HD big up///
Yes Oneil, I knew that Money Express was registered….. BUT I think they were only registered as A CAMBIO…not as forex trader….understand? In other words, as far as I know, the FSC DID NOT know that trader was going on under the disguise of being a cambio…. No one would report them…. Big boys don’t report on each other….. As far as I know..Money Express was being run by one of Jamaica’s biggest names…..
Kevin2, Oh my brother, You’ll never hear the answers to that question. Watch this drama, Big Boys clubs are only reported in a very vague way, and only in the Gleaner….I am almost prepared to say, it Won’t be printed in the Observer…. …(read between the lines)
Carlos Hill was going to be The tourist mogul’s GREATEST competititor..hmmm so he had to be reported in a certain newspaper…notice it was not The Gleaner…
Oneil said,
January 12, 2008 at 7:17 am
DR, again u are right, it look like u have money with them Money Express has a cambio license under boj, so they were “legal”, cambio and security dealers license, that still couldnt stop the misappropriation of fund,” uptown word for theif money”, hahahah. Any DR in regards to Olint what will happen when the 42 days has past for getting a license, does the appeal counters this judgement??????????????????
Oneil said,
January 12, 2008 at 7:27 am
Chick a Dee, I wish u all the best, hope u all will get ur money. I would advise U to get legal advice from a good lawyer, even from FSC if u know anyone there. If neccesary to know ur rights, probrably u might have to sue the company, this is too serious a matter to be taken lightly, jamaicans who are used to living a high life style are not going to sell their prized assets willfully. I will bet u any money on that.
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 7:46 am
Oneil, With regards to the court of Appeal vs the FSC demand: I cannot answer that question: I will ask a laywer.
But it is my understanding that if a client had signed a 5-year roll over agreement with C+, even if C+ folds: That client would have to wait 5 years before they can sue… I saw something like that from a lawyer in the newspapers.. two weeks ago….
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 8:53 am
By the way please don’t mis-interpret my comments earlier….because the truth is, The Gleaner is run by a BIG BOY too… indeed he is associated with Jamaica National and NEM insurance….. but the Gleaner tries to market itself to the MASSes…all classes….. while the Observer aims for the educated and middle-class.
Skeem said,
January 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
TCI FX Traders
Oneil said,
January 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
DR, u seemed well informed, who is this mystery financial director or owners of Money Express.
Skeem said,
January 12, 2008 at 11:40 am
tcifx.com
Oneil said,
January 12, 2008 at 11:47 am
DR I disagree with ur comments re this classe issue with Observer. I am very close to the Observer family, likkle do u known that Gordon Stewart is a lot more down to earth and less superficial than a lot of people on this website . A lot of people you consider to be very wealthy people are more real and down to earth than a lot of the people who like us who aspire to be like them.
ForexGuy said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
#172 Money Express is Ricky Azan’s company.
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Oneil,
Money Express was owned/operated by a member(s) of the “Azans” family….
I think they operate AZMart in Barbican, The Azan’s Super Centre in Cross Roads etc etc…..DEM BIG!
Thanks for the correction re: Butch but I wasn’t speaking about him as an individual, but rather the marketing strategy of the Company…… I know this is a bit deep, but I cannot be too open on this blog. Respect to you, Oniel.
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Skeem, I had a look at that website…tcifx: wow…interesting… I saw where David is very involved…. I suppose this is the official website for OlintTCI…..
Unfortunately, I spoke to someone who told me that that club is reserved for citizens of TCI exclusively….ouch!
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On a different note, the best way for all the clubs to solve the banking situation is to own thier own bank….once they can pass the ‘fit and proper’ test of the BOJ………….
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We hope “Noel” will pass the “Fit and Proper Test” by Jan 31 ……
Patricia said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Rich Kid and Vela Invest, thanks for the video clips…interesting and informative
P.
DH said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I made contact with them in december becauase i though they were the offical web site for Olint TCI. But after this email I concluded not.
A few of the basics are as follows:
Investors cannot be US Citizens
A minimum investment of US$25,000 is required
The investors’ file requires the following: Certified Copy of Passport and Drivers License, Reference Letter from both a bank and professional (ie Accountant/ Lawyer), Utility Bill
“2.89% was the return for November, however, it has averaged about 5% over the past year. The prospectus is attached as discussed – there is an updated prospectus being prepared this month and we will send you that one as soon as it is finished.”
Peace
Skeem said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
http://tcifx.com/docs/Prospectus.pdf
Skeem said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
DR (#177) are you sure you have to be a TCI citizen?
DH (#179) did they really say US$25,000….wow…I dont have that kinda money.
I dont really understand though why would I want to settle for 2.89% a month?
(apart from diversify my “investment portfolio”)
Or am I not understanding the figures you posted above
Patricia said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
DH, You beat me to the post on that one, #179, as I was going to respond to DR’s previous post on tcifx……you have indeed provided sufficient details. I am also awaiting updated prospectus….also want to see the funds perf over the next 6 months first…..Ah tell u DS is a man on a mission. No joke.
Next thing DH, always remember that capital gains is the way to go, in terms of preferential tax treatment here in the True North…in terms of preference from top down, order your affairs acccordingly…
cg, dividends, investment/business, earned income
DH said,
January 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
My undering of their email is they keep 5% of the interest olint pays out. Therefore in november they payed 2.98% . Even though Dvaid Smith is a director of TCi FX the company is basical functioning as a middle man betwen you and Olint.
Patricia said,
January 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
JSM,
if u haven’t check out Vela Invest’s video clip….also tell me what you think about Pulse’s stock, hype? or worth the hassle?
Anthony said,
January 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I never dreamed I would live to say this but here goes. I always try encourage to teach a man how to fish. However what I have noticed is that some of these new fishermen/women are making too much noise and as a result if they are allowed to continue causing panic and mayhem then we will all have a poor fishing season. I visited ww yesterday re what I had heard happening and to my surprise most of the people there were not even aware of info posted on there site from last month. I really hate to say this but some of these people should not have ventured high risk in the first place, and should be considered dangerous to these clubs.
The mistake some of these clubs made was to go wholesaling for clients and are now feeling the pinch of having investors who do not even have an idea of what they are in.
I however noticed that steps are being taken to weed out the uncertain ones and leave the soldiers to continue to empower themselves and family. In closing I guess we will still have to use our conscience and resort to giving a man a fish.
I guess it all boils down to the saying the rich will always be richer.
Now is the time for us to stand with our clubs unite and conquer let us not allow them to divide and rule us.
Question said,
January 12, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Is anyone else having problems modifying/uploading files (ID picture, reference letters, proof of address) to MD??
The “click here to upload files” button doesn’t work…
I would have directed this to MD “customer care support” but I am not awear of any. (They have never responded to my “Queries”.)
DR said,
January 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Anthony, no dis-respect to you Sir, but trust me when you feel The Holy Spirit telling you that it is time to get out, or if someone give you a tip – - then you have to move……
Someone tipped me from as early as June 07 to tell me that ‘Hill’s Club+’ was going down in November/December – I came out in September…. I am glad… Can you blame me… Am I still a soldier?
I took out all my money out of “Ruthven Road” recently….. I did see the letter on the wall… But I got a tip from Heaven….that my time has come: to be out…..! Notice the letter Jan. 4, indicated that they intend to be registered by Jan 31 – - That letter was not coming from the FSC themselves, instructing them to get registered WITHIN three weeks…..no instead it was basically begging for more time …..hmmmm
Alot can happen in three weeks….as a matter of fact – - People can move out to Argentina within a night….hmhmhmm Ask MAX – - hahha
Am I still a soldier?
I did not like the line, “This is not an indication that we were doing anything wrong all along”…….. not comfortable with that.
Eventually, we can go back in with $5000, or we can go somewhere else and get 15% – 20% Can you blame me for that…..
The climate is very shaky, even among the EXCLUSIVES!
I wonder if the “WRECKERS” that came to WW yesterday to pick up cars on the sidewalk were sent by “Michael” or “Bill”… ha ha ha
PonDeBank said,
January 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Missa DR ah get nuff sign ’bout tings…maybe im coulda tell Question ‘ow fi deal wid fi im problem. ‘im mus cyan get a sign fi dat. What a man lucky. Unda fi im mattrass mussi fat fat fat
Blessed said,
January 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Hi all,
I have been reading this blog for quite ome time now, but getting a little worried now. I am in WB and I have not heard anything about them. Anyone with information or news?
Big up all the soldiers who are keeping it real on the BLOG…soldiers like – Patricia, DH, DR, Kevin2, chimpmoney,….just to name a few. If mi lef u out nuh feel nuh way. Done know!!!!
MoneyChimp said,
January 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Blessed,
It’s MoneyChimp actually but nuff nespect anyway and thanks for the recognition.
MoneyChimp said,
January 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
HD,
Were you on MTI’s webex last thursday? With the free live trade call you could have made about 45 pips. I always try to set my limits a little higher that Shawn Beecher suggested. Sometimes it hurts when the trade doesn’t go my way but that doesn’t happen too often. Happy investing guys.
HD said,
January 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm
MoneyChimp,
Thanks for the update…..I have not sit in on trhe MTI sessions recently but I have been meaning too. Using my own techniques on my demo account I was able to make 50 pips last week with two trades. I made 35 pips with one trade and 15 pips with the other. Compared to the previous two weeks that is my lowest take for the week so far this year. The first week of Jan 1 I made almost 400 pips off 3 trades. I am slowly trying to maintain consistency and If I can keep making profits like this consistently with demo trading I will switch to live trading in a couple months.
You should also check out the FXCM sessions and fxnationlive.com .
Good Luck.
venture Capitalist said,
January 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Dr. Howdy it’s been a while, have you jumped ship all together? Are you still with the big “O” or waiting to join. I know you are a man of many codes…I would be happy to direct the next script you have in mind as you know I’ am always looking to cash in on new ventures.
I think we got the same signs from above but mine came before I started. Back in 07 I was on the path on investing a heavy sum of USD in “CP” but I got a very funny feeling and never went along so I guess venture in me came out, mine came with something of a dock mate attached
. Let me know if you plan to attend the jazz festival we need to all meet up for Gin and Tonic and some fine Cubans if that’s the taste of the night. I got my tickets already and will be arriving in the Island on the 21st. This will be my first attendance due to the closeness to the big “O” Family my tickets we given in advance. Well if you do I will send over my # to you and Patricia if you are in attendance so we can have a drink or two.
Patricia I have been involved in a new project so I have been away for a while but have not forgotten you and Dr. if I can help in any way please don’t hesitate.
BF New Year.
VC
Patricia said,
January 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Hi VentureCapitalist…good to hear ya!….aaawww man, this Soldier is deep in the trenches..wont be down for JAzz Fest…but hey, you have a great time and drink an Alize for me
Sneak said,
January 13, 2008 at 12:55 pm
#186…Question…..I have been in touch with MD regarding the same concerns of yours and have been assured that we won’t be able to view same but our information is received. You should probably send a query – asking them to confirm that your information has been received.
Sneak said,
January 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
VC….I hope you already have your accommodation because Mobay lock tight
PonDeBank said,
January 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Question, si deh, di man wid di sign dem answer yuh. Da blog yah ah sinting else. mi seh whooaaaeee!!!
Sharonette said,
January 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Sneak..you ever heard the phrase ‘Strike the iron while it’s hot?’
Bus mi pon a ref to MD nuh? If that’s cool with you gimme a link shergambino@yahoo.com
Anthony said,
January 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Dr I understand your point and it is definately your choice to fold your hand if you are no longer comfortable with a particular club, my problem is with the persons who are being disorderly and also are threatening workers and the likes just to pull money.
Instead of ganging the office they could have faxed in a request or even sent an email but instead chose to crowd the office and inconvenience other members who were just there to pick up a check or to make additions.
And yes in my opinion you are a soldier after all it appears that your chips are mounting and you are making smart decisions.
Lone Wulf said,
January 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Skeem (#171) I have been checking out tcifx, I even got an updated (Feb/2007) prospectus, but they only seem to be offering 5% a month for a minimum investment of US$25K (just like DH #179 had indicated).
Does anyone else have any additional info? Is there anyone here that is a part of it?
Carol said,
January 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Lone Wulf – that’s a crazy minimum investment for such a small profit margin
Carol said,
January 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I guess its only open to the BIG wigs
mrs C said,
January 13, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Thank you HD.
I went to WW and it was very choatic everybody come for there interest however it was NCB account holders as they have stop accepting payment from WW. they were trying there best to get rid of the crowd, they were taking names and phone numbers saying they are going to set up a call centre this week and call us to let us know when to come for our cheques. i heard one of the staff said ” gi mi yu numba an gwaan a yu yard yu nah get no cheque today” . it was mad.
Carol said,
January 13, 2008 at 2:40 pm
These people don’t understand that they are playing with people’s money – they don’t have any right to be rude. I understand it is not easy to deal with an angry/frustrated mob but dem need fi exercise some patience. A people money dem a deal wid
sharon said,
January 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Does anyone know about Myinvestment.com….a friend in jamaica is asking me for money to invest in this
I am Back said,
January 13, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Hi Sharon – I don’t know much except that the returns are ridiculously high – I am very suspicious of it because it mek Swisscash look like it was not trying
Unfortunately – the persons who I know that are in it – went in around the same time and none of them have gotten any returns yet – they have to wait until about August. You have to lock your funds for various periods (you choose) The website is minvestment.com. If you plan to go in it – please don’t risk too much. I know too many persons who were badly burnt by swisscash
sharon said,
January 13, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Thank
I am Back for the info.
Basil said,
January 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Anthoney #185
I agree with you NCB made a cunning (brother annancy) and calculated move that have the inexperienced investos running for cover.
I thinkWW will ride this one out and it is a good idea to increase
the limit to 5K. This will decrease the accountin cost and also minimize
a recurrence of this situation.
Patricia said,
January 13, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Well I guess TCI FX is is what it is, just another mutual fund. By US, CDA & European standards, if they average out 20-30% per annum, that’s great. I think this product is catering to a different market (Not sure who though)
Again, NCB is getting on my last nerve.
Anthony!!, still not a word….hhhhhmmmm
comment said,
January 13, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Hello Patricia what are you thoughts on the TCI FX fund? Is it something you would get involve in? I would like for you to give me a few points on what you would look for and ask if taking the investment plunge! I read through the 26 page prospectus and understand the legal and risk factors. What would make this profitable and beneficial to a investor especially since the initial investment is $25,000 US.
Thank you P.
HD said,
January 13, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I think some of this explains why better investment opportunities are not available to the masses….see TCI FX 5% with minimum 25G’s…see WW increasing to 5G’s minimum….see all the problems Olint is in because they gave access to the masses….see the problems WW is having recently….etc etc…..tough to say but it’s true.
Patricia said,
January 13, 2008 at 8:08 pm
No comment(pun intended)
… as I am not an investment adviser, so anything I say is just my ramblings and musings
But, I would guess that if u r not in Tci, but in say a high tax j/diction, and looking for higher returns elsewhere, (and you dont plan to remit the returns,) but rather defer them, then it could be profitable in the mid to long term….I quess it depends on the particular strategy(including tax planning) one adopts in selecting a portfolio mix…
Vela Invest said,
January 13, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Hey check this site out they offer 1 on 1 forex coaching
http://www.businesscoachpros.com/forex-coaching-index.php
DR said,
January 13, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Just a bit concerned that when I passed WW on Friday night at 11:45pm, I saw alot of Cars there….I also passed there today (Sunday) after 8pm…and cars were there……hmmmmm
What’s going on?
Did you see the statement from WW chairman re: NCB in today’s gleaner?
What’s going on?
mike said,
January 13, 2008 at 10:12 pm
moneychimp
when is beecher calling his next trade? Is this the same as the “earn as you learn” program?
comment said,
January 13, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Dr. What was the statement regarding, i tried to find it online, but could not.
JK said,
January 14, 2008 at 12:06 am
its in sundays news paper stating that ncb refuses to be a ‘disburstment’ center for WW clients
even tho WW pay NCB to do it
so WW wanted to clear the air on that matter
comment said,
January 14, 2008 at 12:11 am
Thank you JK. Much appreciated.
Oneil said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:49 am
For all these 200 NCB customers with WW , it is obvious that the bank doesnt have its customers interest at heart. NCB obviously has it’s own agenda. NCB is well aware that all these people were making withdrawls because of all the uncertainty going on, what if the members believed that WW would have been closed down on monday and friday was the last day to collect their funds.Thanks NCB what goes around comes around, u wait and see if when people lose them money, which bank them going blame in aiding the process.NCB customers wake up, NCB is run by people who worship SATAN. Not god fearing people can be so selfish and badmind so.
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 7:17 am
Michael, Can I ask you a question? Do you really think what you did to WW and their partners is a good way of “Building a Better Jamaica”….?
mrs C said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:34 am
i got a call from WW on sunday afternoon saying that i can come in on monday to pick up my cheque. i am wondering if i should let my montly interest go to Scotia because they might soon stop accepting WW money. the same thing happen at CASHPLUS. it like dejavu.
Oneil said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:07 am
Mrs C, the issue with NCB wasnt about them not accepting WW cheques, they wanted individual cheques for each customer, as they with dem bad mind self, wasnt willing to accept one cheque for entries to be posted to it’s 200 customers, even though they offered that service for a charge in the past .
Oneil said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:10 am
I believe what NCB wanted to do is that when individual cheques are done, it would be easier for them to do up a suspicious transactions report, which the bankers association headed by Hylton conspired to do.
Sharonette said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:20 am
I really think we should stop supporting NCB it’s like they want to monopolize the financial market……
And right behind them is the cuz, SuperPlus….when last have any of you looked into one of the supermarkets…nearly every product has Superplus labels on it…..it is so annoying…I only stop to pick up a few things there when i REALLY cant do better….
Enough of the Chin’s and Chen’s…mek somebody else eat a food to.
Oneil said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:57 am
# Sharonette, u took the words right out of my mouth.
Mary Jane said,
January 14, 2008 at 10:33 am
Patricia #209 can “advise/recommend” any other 20-30% (or even higher) per anum funds??
I am thinking of diversifying…while I would prefer WW 12% per month….I dont mind taking 5% per month in a “legitimate” fund where I don’t have to worry about the FSC or those ppl.
InDeRiver said,
January 14, 2008 at 10:34 am
matthew 25 has a story that pretty much tells you to invest ,those ncb boys cannot stop/break the will of the people with these silly hurdles , Jah is on our side
Kevin2 said,
January 14, 2008 at 12:58 pm
It seems clear to me that the registration and viability of these clubs is not an option as far as NCB is concerned. NCB clearly doesn’t want to see these clubs get registered …..what they want to see is these clubs die. Why on earth is NCB behaving the way it is? It makes absolutely no sense. That is why I have been saying for a while that there is an clear agenda within NCB and it comes from the top. After screwing around with peoples lives you then turn around and say ..come and take a ‘this’ loan and a ‘that’ loan from us. The power is in your hands people I tell you not NCB. I am really a bit concerned with MLC and the power he can wield not just in JA. He can make live really miserable for us as he has started to do so watch out!! We are still in for a rough ride ahead from NCB.
And I would bet you all that NCB will be launching their own fx funds once they feel they have quelled the competition. Remember the room that exists on the new Mutual Life building I am told. Also remeber the statement from a senior bank official I posted earlier that they will be coming after OLINT next (even after the recent court decision). It is all about competition and fear nothing else.
Anthony said,
January 14, 2008 at 1:19 pm
The strength of any financial organization lies on the confidence members have in same. I lost my confidence in NCB from they started picking on clubs and as a result emptied my account. I wish my fellow investors would just get with the program and find a bank that appreciates their financial growth. I AM NOT GOING TO SAVE WITH THE OPPRESSOR.
Delta said,
January 14, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Hi There,
I took a weekend break.
Michael (#149) – I received my C+ email on Jan 4, 2008
#153 KMoney – I am surprized about what they said regarding withdrawals as I was informed that this has to be done in person.
Strange….
Patricia said,
January 14, 2008 at 1:35 pm
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120010072930285383-lMyQjAxMDI4MDEwMjExMDIwWj.html
this is the kind of thing that happens, and the detractors then lump everybody together..anyway, take heed and be careful, as you really never know. always engage in good risk management..can’t say it enough
KMoney said,
January 14, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Delta (#230),
Not to my knowledge…As long as they have the right documentation, your good to go. I actually spoke to an individual that “handled” my account months ago (Aug. 2007).
Nonetheless…
JSM said,
January 14, 2008 at 2:29 pm
POST # 228, KEVIN2:
I agree wholeheartedly with your statements. I just gave an order today to have all my asset, Stock portflio and Cash moved from NCB Capital Markets and sent to another Broker.
Banks cannot exist without people puttting their Money in and allowing the Banks to use their money. (SEE VIDEO POST # 122 by Get Rich above).
Look we have Power. We are not a Sitting Ducks. The INTERNET IS PLAYING A BIG ROLE IN RESHAPING AMERICAN POLITICS let us use it to our advantage here.
IF EACH OF US PULL OUR ACCOUNTS FROM NCB AND ASK OUR FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME IT CAN START TO SEND A MESSAGE.
When I sent the email to close my account account with NCB I followed up with a Phone call to the company my account will now be handled by and I told the Officer the reason why, the company Holdings from NCB will be going to is one I already do business with. The Officer said that they understood. Believe me when I say the workers at these Company are all AWARE of whats happening.
We can PEACEFULLY change the ATTITUDE of NCB. It may be difficult, but Change does not happen without Struggle.
As I said before we have POWER. We have MONEY, thank GOD and we have the INTERNET. PEOPLE do and will READ what we WRITE.
PATRICA: I read the Article in the WSJ earlier myself. I will contact you about Pulse later.
Patricia said,
January 14, 2008 at 3:03 pm
hhhhmmm…Nasty Covetous Badmindedness cannot build a better Jamaica
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 14, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Posting #232.
Patricia,
Thanks a million for sharing the WSJ article. It clearly states that “Most shops are legitimate”. Regarding the stock market, which has many illegitimate boiler room operations and pump and dump schemes all over the USA, and Europe, is no different. ALL INVESTORS, will have to exercise their extreme due diligence.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Patricia,
That is a very good article. I guess there is a chance that some of these that we think are legit may not be legit or they could turn illegit after a while. It makes one sober up and remember to :
- Stick to a specific financial goal and then get out or take out most of my money
- Make sure that goal can be met in 6-12 months.
- Don’t be greedy
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Greedy nuh pay….
I am wondering if it is better to be in a small/private club…amybe only 20 persons…with small cash….. : Afterall it’s not the size of the club BUT the size of the cash:-
I think BIG clubs have better lawyers: Small clubs would be rolled over by the Oppressors…..
Any comment?
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 3:58 pm
The heads at NCB are just plain disgusting and it makes one wonder how anyone could even socialise with them. Imagine Edward Seaga turned around that organisation by making it public so that the people could benefit (through the stocks) and could also help NCB through the initial stock offering and the bad mind and greedy people them now running it take and turn it against the people.
One thing for sure is next time I visit Jamaica I am taking all my stock certificates for NCB and all the old bank books and I am selling every single stock and closing every single account.
And to think that I was going to open an account down there for purposes of withdrawing money and investing. Well, not anymore, my money is staying right up here with me or it is going to some other country. And if I change my mind it certainly will not be deposited with NCB. So they get Olint and Lewfam in court, CashPlus had a run on them, now they targeting WW …give me a break….they think people are stupid.
Oh, and trust me they will be into some kind of forex product …just wait and see.
If any one should ask I will not hesitate to bad mouth those AIC funds either. They not doing that great anyway.
….okay maybe I get over it tomorrow.
I think WW will weather the storm anyway I can see some signs.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Doctor said I should watch the salt in my diet but I think those NCB people is more of a problem.
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Don’t let “THEM” get you sick my dear….. The money you have in their bank can’t pay the doctor bill…..h aha hahahah hahah
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:18 pm
With “THEM” you are salt……… With FOREX traders you will be sweet like sugar…. With PONZI you’ll cry…….
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:20 pm
No wonder he so bad mind and jealous 90% of his funds showing negative returns over the past 3 months. The few showing positive are less than 5% over 3 months and are invested in bonds which no one can lose on….hahaha
http://www.aic.com/en/fund_performance/static_performance_AIC.html#
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Hey DR, just to let you know I am a HE.
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 6:03 pm
So much for Michael Lee-Chin philosophy I think it’s the total opposite of that he is really about.
Prosperitas cum caritate (Do well, but also do good).
http://www.aic.com/en/About_us/philanthropy.asp
We all need to become investigative journalist and try to find out what Michael and bill has hiding in there past that could bite them right where it hurts and for all eyes to see and ears to hear.
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Lee-chin in the land of the Thow affair
Where is the help for the local people.
http://www.financialpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=f60d2e0d-e89a-4d6f-9342-754c057c0039&k=45788
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Read this article.
http://www.investorvoice.ca/PI/2282.htm
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 6:40 pm
We also need to look at Super + Pass and how they grew so fast. I smell a rat people and he is leading us to a new opening to discover the things we never knew.
mrs C said,
January 14, 2008 at 7:36 pm
i only saw a part of the 7o’clock news what does all this mean. iT sound like good news for OLINT.
DW said,
January 14, 2008 at 7:41 pm
whats going on with OLINT?Whats new?
Kevin2 said,
January 14, 2008 at 7:47 pm
READ THIS CAREFULLY……IT SHOWS THAT NCB IS F@#@#NG AROUND BIG TIME!!!
….look at the courts order as it relates to delivery of bank’s communication re Olint….obviously something into something, something underhand going on here, and it may slowly be coming to light
Olint Corporation gets injunction against NCB
Monday, 14 January 2008
Less than a month after one alternative investment scheme obtained an injunction blocking the National Commercial Bank (NCB) from closing its accounts, another unregulated entity has obtained a similar injunction.
This time it is the Olint Corporation which was last Friday granted an injunction by the Supreme Court.
In documents obtained by the RJR News Centre, the claimant Olint accused the NCB of abusing its dominant position in the financial sector by threatening to close its accounts.
The Company asked the court to act to prevent this.
The court granted the ex-parte injunction barring NCB and its agents from closing Olint’s accounts at its branches islandwide.
The Supreme Court also ordered NCB to make available to Olint all communications including electronic, correspondence, minutes of meetings and memoranda between the Bank and other commercial institutions about Olint.
This should be handed to Olint before January 18 and should cover the period January 2, 2007 to December 31, 2007.
The injunction also bars NCB and its employees and directors from disposing or destroying any communications involving NCB and other commercial and financial institutions regarding Olint and its accounts.
The injunction also bars NCB from dealing with accounts of Olint in any way that will interfere and/or disrupt Olint’s operations.
The matter is set for hearing on January 24.
Last month Cash Plus obtained a similar injunction against NCB.
That injunction expires on January 24.
In the meantime, Olint Corporation has taken its fight with the National Commercial Bank to the central bank, the Bank of Jamaica.
In a letter dated January 10, 2008 to the Bank of Jamaica Olint asserts that NCB is in breach of the Banking Act by threatening to close its accounts.
Olint called on the Bank of Jamaica, as supervisor of banks, to investigate its complaint as a matter of urgency.
Olint argues that NCB is forcing it to close its accounts which are operated on behalf of Jamaicans who are entitled to the protection of the laws which govern the banking sector.
Olint also accused the commercial banks of acting in concert citing the closure of its accounts with other banks, including RBTT and First Caribbean.
The operators of the foreign exchange trading club say if the BOJ fails to act it could be guilty of breaching its statutory duties.
Kevin2 said,
January 14, 2008 at 7:49 pm
The previous post is from RJR’s website
Patricia said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:16 pm
WHERE MY SOLDIERS AT??? SOLDIERS UNITE!!!
I read the RJR News Item, well well well …a birdie must have dropped some cookies(COPIES OF COMMUNICATION) into Olint’s hands…if NCB breaches the terms of that order they should be made to deal with the consequences, Why is BOJ not dealing with this properly? It seems like LattiB afraid of WonderBoy.
NASTY COVETOUS BADMINDEDNESS CANNOT BUILD A BETTER JAMAICA.
jamone said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:39 pm
which one of the oppressors father was in incarcerated in colombia???
Patricia said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Wasn’t it the Wonder Boy’s Dad/Step-Dad ?
DW said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Lee-Chin,remember what goes around comes right back around,tear down peoples hope of financial prosperity,and your MONOPOLISTIC EMPIRE will FALL….SOLDIERS lets RESIST THE OPPRESSORS AGGRESSION.
Patricia said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Mary Jane, sorry I dont know of any funds offering > 20-30% pa, fx is the way I’m getting that done…..why not check out FXCM
Investment Tech said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:50 pm
OLINT FIGHTS BACK AT NCB(THE FIGHTERS OF THE JAMAICA PEOPLE)
NEWS
Less than a month after one alternative investment scheme obtained an injunction blocking the National Commercial Bank (NCB) from closing its accounts, another unregulated entity has obtained a similar injunction.
This time it is the Olint Corporation which was last Friday granted an injunction by the Supreme Court.
In documents obtained by the RJR News Centre, the claimant Olint accused the NCB of abusing its dominant position in the financial sector by threatening to close its accounts.
The Company asked the court to act to prevent this.
The court granted the ex-parte injunction barring NCB and its agents from closing Olint’s accounts at its branches islandwide.
The Supreme Court also ordered NCB to make available to Olint all communications including electronic, correspondence, minutes of meetings and memoranda between the Bank and other commercial institutions about Olint.
This should be handed to Olint before January 18 and should cover the period January 2, 2007 to December 31, 2007.
The injunction also bars NCB and its employees and directors from disposing or destroying any communications involving NCB and other commercial and financial institutions regarding Olint and its accounts.
The injunction also bars NCB from dealing with accounts of Olint in any way that will interfere and/or disrupt Olint’s operations.
The matter is set for hearing on January 24.
Last month Cash Plus obtained a similar injunction against NCB.
That injunction expires on January 24.
In the meantime, Olint Corporation has taken its fight with the National Commercial Bank to the central bank, the Bank of Jamaica.
In a letter dated January 10, 2008 to the Bank of Jamaica Olint asserts that NCB is in breach of the Banking Act by threatening to close its accounts.
Olint called on the Bank of Jamaica, as supervisor of banks, to investigate its complaint as a matter of urgency.
Olint argues that NCB is forcing it to close its accounts which are operated on behalf of Jamaicans who are entitled to the protection of the laws which govern the banking sector.
Olint also accused the commercial banks of acting in concert citing the closure of its accounts with other banks, including RBTT and First Caribbean.
The operators of the foreign exchange trading club say if the BOJ fails to act it could be guilty of breaching its statutory duties.
InDeRiver said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:52 pm
in that WSJ article ,the name azan could easily be subsituted
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:54 pm
ha ha ah Jamone….. careful…. Are you asking who’s father was a pharmacist? ha ha ha I knew that all-along:
Now The Observer needs to write:
Will the real “Michael” please stand.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:57 pm
#257 BIG UP OLINT…..now David gwine slay Goliath…hahah
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Yes unite, Patricia, DW, JAMONE, KEVIN2, Mr. C and all my blog family.
I will be going deep underground into Canada’s Knox to find all the dirty details of how Mr. Lee Chin became so powerful. Please people dig, lets show them we mean business if they want to play dirty, and then lets play dirty. Check on Bills history, and the rest of the Directors…We are going to make sure that there little Night light secrets come out we know that they have some 2:am calls. Lets hope it will shed some light to the public. Who is first Caribbean CEO?
Patricia I love those words -
NASTY COVETOUS BADMINDEDNESS CANNOT BUILD A BETTER JAMAICA.
DR said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Hey HD now I know you are a man…. You shall be called ‘Sir’…sorry
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Yes sir,
Little David S and big big Goliath….this is hopefully will be one for the history books.
“They” say “Buy, Hold, and Prosper”….well I am going to keep buying some Olint and some WW, and I will Hold and Prosper……hahahah.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:06 pm
np…so much for using initials….but I hate to change my alias now.
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Beautifully Said HD I will has to also second DR. on that. ‘SIR’ you have been officially knighted
Canadian. said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:08 pm
***Have sorry.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:08 pm
And NCB is the last bank to see any of my good good Foreign Exchange.
HD said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Respect….guys.
DW said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I am also going buy more OLINT and WW as well.INNA YU FACE MISA CHIN!!!!
ensley said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:30 pm
me a go a NCB a morning
and draw all a mi US dollars and lodge it a JMMB
them too disgusting!!!!
DW said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:38 pm
yes Ensley step up.
Venture Capitalist said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Hello Bloggers, I was elated to here the news of Olint’s ruling.
I must say many people nowadays are blatantly and unashamedly living for themselves (Michael, Bill, Lee). Society teaches us to look out for number one. “What’s in it for me?” We readily acknowledge this as the “me” generation, and that same narcissism sometimes spills over into our relationship with God, our families, and one another. Ironically, this selfish attitude condemns us to living shallows, unrewarding lives. No matter how much we acquire for ourselves, we are never satisfied, (Michael, Bill, Lee) .
One of the greatest challenges we face in our quest to enjoy our best lives now is the temptation to live selfishly. Because we believe that God wants the best for us, and that He wants us to prosper, it is easy to slip into the subtle trap of selfishness. Not only will you avoid that pitfall, but also you will have more joy than you dreamed possible when you live to give, (Michael, Bill, Lee) which is the sixth step to living at your full potential.
We were not made to function as self-involved people, thinking only of ourselves. No, God created us to be givers (Michael, Bill, Lee). And you will never be truly fulfilled as a human being until you learn the simple secret of how to give.
VC.
DW said,
January 14, 2008 at 9:55 pm
well said Venture C.
Sharonette said,
January 14, 2008 at 10:29 pm
MLC meet him match with DS…..It’s about time someone with clout and backitive stand up to that monopolistic menace. We are behind you all the way DS…..EQUAL RIGHTS AND JUSTICE.
itfp said,
January 14, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I will be closing my account with NCB as well by the end of the month. While doing so I will let them know EXACTLY why I am doing this and how I feel about their direct attempt to stamp out competition that is beneficial for Jamaica on a whole. I suggest that whoever have accounts with this institution that we close them and let them know the reason so that the message can be sent. I want to tell you that it is even better to do business with a JMMB and Pan Caribbean because living overseas these institutions facilitate email and fax indemnity something I cannot get from National Commercial Bank.
Sir HD said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:49 am
“The ex parte injunction also prevents NCB from disposing of or destroying the communications within NCB, and communications between NCB and other commercial, banking and financial institutions regarding Olint, its accounts and the closure for the period January 2, 2007 to December 31, 2007.”
….hahaha
I bet you the idiots gwine come out in the public today and try explain and deny.
Sir HD said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:50 am
This is sweeeeeet !
Cleon said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:21 am
Any comments on the interview this morning on nation wide radio with the chairman of World Wise…..dont know if anyone on this blog got a chance to listen……
Cleon said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:23 am
Hi Good Morning All,
Any comments on the interview this morning on nation wide radio with the chairman of World Wise…..dont know if anyone on this blog got a chance to listen……Heard Naomi & Emilie had him in the hot seat……throwing all sorts of questions at him.
Cleon said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:27 am
But at the end of it, the conclusion was “World Wise is safe and is meeting its monthly obligations” this is in quotes of course……
Sir HD said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:43 am
For my friends interested in Stocks , you could have made 40-50% on your money on this Stock if you had bought in Nov:
POTASH CORP SASK COM NPV (POT.TO)
Sir HD said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:58 am
For my Canadian Friends:
http://www.financialforum.ca/whyattend.asp
Pat, have you ever been to this one ? Hopefully it is not the usually yady yady, buy RSP’s
Patricia said,
January 15, 2008 at 9:41 am
Good Morning Sire,
no have not been to the financial forum, but I’m sure the yady yady yada, is part of the usual bundle……on that note, not sure if u read fxcm’s forecasts, but they r projecting, based on the trends, that loonie, down to about .85c, by June….I had previously heard analysts predicting a 80-85cents,considering that the loonie tends to rise with oil, and “big”efforts are being made boost OPEC production, and also to quell the speculators, then I can see loonie dropping(also high loonie not good for economy)….I say all that becuz, your portfolio mix is going to be key, need to mix it up..good balance of equities, r/estate and yes….. fx
so yes, stocks in the mining sector should be good, metals like gold and silver are treating folks quite well, as far as I see..and should continue.
BTW, Last yr (OCT) Scotia finalised the pse of TradeFreedom, online fx trading brokerage….interesting…so u know we can watch what Bill will be rolling out on the rock…and u know the Wonder Boy, has to go head to head with his rival..so I quess the OPPRESSORS have to get the competition out, after all….”its so unfair!!”…WAAAAA WAAAAA
Basil said,
January 15, 2008 at 11:03 am
Hello Friends.
Now that the battle with David and Goliath (NCB) has begun let us all say
Prayers for David. Remember the more the prayers the greater the victory.
Over the Philistines (The Bankers Association of Jamaica)
Let us also pray for Michael that he mend his ways and rejoin the fold
of nation builders.
War is not good just look at what is happening in the USA.
DW said,
January 15, 2008 at 11:53 am
Get your point Basil,but WAR brings about CHANGE and is a part of the REVOLUTION which is necessary for SURVIVAL.
DR said,
January 15, 2008 at 12:03 pm
David vs Goliath: That’s funny….. Remember one thing, it only took one stone to floor him: – food for thought:
We will pray for Michael, Noel(WW), and Leaders of the Exclusives….. We also need to pray for the heads of the PONZI’s too….because alot of Jamaican’s were involved.
I did hear the interview Noel vs Emily Crooks on Nationwide: I thought he answered the questions fairy well…..not sure if he spoke the truth when he said some months he makes 30% – - I feel it’s more like 50% ….well, let’s see if they will get registered by Jan 31….
1). Will Noel/WW pass the ‘fit and proper’ test?
2). Is his background history “clean”?
3). Even though CH history has been terrible, Can he pass the “fit and proper” test? Otherwise, he’ll have to set up someone else as the chairman of the company C+. Thoughts?
Comment said,
January 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Patricia, Dr. or any other how do I buy stock in jamaica lets say form DB& G, Pan Jam etc. I don’t live in jamaica but I wanted to buy some stocks in a few companies there. Do i go through first global??
Peace.
DW said,
January 15, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Four years ago, whenever the market was HOT I bought all my stocks through an agent at first global,had no problems.I sold all my stocks when the market started on a decline,there are now some really attractive stocks out there , and this could be a good time to buy.Check first global fees before investing,because at the time I found them a little pricey,but then it didnt matter because I was making MONEY.
Patricia said,
January 15, 2008 at 12:44 pm
there are a few firms – DB&G, Pan Jam, Mayberry, and that other one formerly known as Edward Gayle & Co…….Scotia bought DB&G…,however there have been changes in personnel with these firms, brokers switching all over the place….I would say try MBerry…
Comment said,
January 15, 2008 at 12:56 pm
So Patricia, Is Mayberry a broker like fist global? or should I just buy stocks in them.
Thank you very much DW, and Patricia.
Patricia said,
January 15, 2008 at 1:01 pm
MayBerry is a broker…..check their website….and no I’m not saying buy their own stocks (MIL), but what I suggest u also do is call around and talk to them, ask about their fees etc…I have dealt with both, DB&G and MBerry
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Some investment clubs will be having a meeting this Sunday and Monday 10am-3pm.@the Jamaica Conference Center….media invited….FSC invited…Hylton not coming….Get your questions answered, air your views all are invited…..RJR 12 o’clock News
DR said,
January 15, 2008 at 2:59 pm
COMMENT:
Sorry I can’t help you much with your stock question: I had lost money in stocks in the 90’s….I am no longer interested. By the way, at one point I made 50% withing two weeks…. but that was a long time ago… NOW its FOREX for me….
With “O”, “WW”, “F1″, “LewF” – who needs stocks? (don’t mean to be rude) You can get up to 25% a month in Jamaica, just ask around. As a matter of fact, if you had dough, you could have gotten between 40% – 60% according to Sunday’s Newspaper if you were in MonExpress……
Sharonette: Which club is putting on the forum?
DR said,
January 15, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Has there been a response from “Michael” or “Hylton” re: thier treatment of WW?.
I have heard that WW chairman, Noel, was on TVJ, Nationwide: He also placed an ad in both Sundays papers and today’s stating what “Goliath’s bank” has done him.
Why no response? Have they been locked in a meeting, trying to decide what lie they can tell the public? or have they decided to see how they can begin to ‘build a better Jamaica’? Come on Goliath: CEASE and DESIST!
JM said,
January 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Can anyone send me a referral to MayDaisy?
juds1456@hotmail.com
Thanks.
Also anyone that needs a referral to minvestment, let me know.
KSB said,
January 15, 2008 at 4:27 pm
All the persons begging invitations to Maydaisy. Any success? I heard that members do not like referring ppl that they do not know. Also heard that monthly returns have been stuck at 20% for a while. sounds good. Any member here withdrawing monthly or u guys watching your 20% compound “on paper” ? How safe is this club though? Would love to hear from a seasoned member.
Enlightened said,
January 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Hey Dr.. i can top your 50% in two weeks ….
Remember mayberry… i made 45% in 3 days….
But like you when the market got soft i got out .. plus i met a really wealthy person who on two occassions make me know how the price of a stock was going to move 2 days ahead of time… because of who talks about what in certain circles (yes the brokers and investors do use insider information)
And because the blocks of shares required to change the market price is so low wealth people manipulate the market anytime there seems to be any kind of bull run.
At least in FX no hand full of people (read MLC and or BC) can manipulate the market with insider info.
Comment said,
January 15, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Dr. I was going to Join F1 last year but never got around to doing that, how are the returns with f1. i have been with “O” for the pass 2 1/2 Years Going well do you think it’s also good to join F1?
peace
Rich Kid said,
January 15, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Hey KSB I have been in MD for a while and I have successfully drawn off funds – I am rolling for the most part though and hoping for the best. Have gotten my 20% every month.
KMoney said,
January 15, 2008 at 4:53 pm
KSB (#296)
A really good friend of mine is in MD and its been a consistant 20%. She has received 280% on her money so far.
“Extremely” exclusive though!!
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 5:33 pm
DR….I didn’t get that part….didn’t hear it aired on the 5pm news..but when again i do i will pass on the info…
NCB responds….it look too bad so they cant keep quiet anymore http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/4631/26/
.
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 5:45 pm
No success for me KSB… there is a deafening silence when requests to b invited for MD goes out….Probably the members don’t happen to see any of the request that have been made…..Or you all asking for invites(myself included) have not been seen the invites have been sent.
KSB, Well at least one member responded to you…..listen to what the other members have to say…….can you hear them…..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That’s just the high price of exclusiveness (if there is such a word)
I think i should ‘Cease and Desist’ this childish behavior.
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 5:46 pm
first paragraph, last line, 5th word should be ’seeing’ not seen
DR said,
January 15, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Enlightened….wow… three days : 45%….top-a-top Congrats:
COMMENT: YES F1 is owned by a group of pilots….seems to be a good club…I am not a member…but I like them…they are part of The EXCLUSIVES that I talk about….. There are registered in Panama, I am told with offices in the US…Florida…..
Hopefully we can get through this year….and We’ll be fine…. NEVER LOOK BACK!
DR said,
January 15, 2008 at 6:23 pm
So who is Sheree?….. Where is “Goliath” or even “Hylton”?
Why are they hiding…. Sheree could not make those decisions on her own…..
come on, now..
HD said,
January 15, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Sheree is their Spokeperson or PR officer, thats who they send out when they are too ashamed to show their own face in public and avoiding to face questions….in other words they commited some wrong doings and don’t want to own up to it.
Lone said,
January 15, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Can I get a referral for f1?
lover said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:04 pm
can someone pleqase give me a referral for MD… thanks in advance
unitedwereach@yahoo.com
Vela Invest said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Hey guys anyone here from Orlando, Fl. or going to be in the Orlando area between, Feb. 6th. Thru the 9th they have a big Money Show going on.
http://www.moneyshow.com/msc/twms/main.asp
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:37 pm
TVJ News…The Business Day BOJ suspends Money Epress’ Cambio License
Sharonette said,
January 15, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Express’
JSM said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:04 pm
POST 297 ENLIGHTENED: I refer you back to Dec 7,07 and Dec 14,07. “You can lead a horse to water you can never let him drink”. I gave everyone on the Blog a “BIG” lead no one followed.
Sometimes we look high and miss what is right at our eye level.
By the way for those of you who need a very Good Account Manager call Mayberry and speak to Maurice Vacciani tell him JSM referred you. No, I get nothing from a refferal.
ensley said,
January 15, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Boy it seems you have to give a arm and a leg to get into
MD
can someone give me a referral???
what is the minimum amount??
smith08us@yahoo.com
DH said,
January 15, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Guys,
please give some feed back http://www.hsbcinvestments.co.uk/site/gif_prices/gif_performance
DR said,
January 16, 2008 at 8:18 am
Sharonette, obviously that investment club is close to signing up with the regulators, because how could they invite them to the same function. Can’t afford to feel the “Rope”…..(hint): The only club that has indicated that they will be signing soon is Worldwise: The Head of the regulator even acknowledge that in one of today’s paper’s.
***** ******* ********************
By the way why the mix-up with Ricardo Azan & Richard Azan….. The gleaner is confusing…on this matter of MonExpr.
DR said,
January 16, 2008 at 8:20 am
Notice how quiet the “other newspaper” is on this MonExpr matter – - I told you they would be….shhhh
They only spoke about the effect of employees of one of “AZ” stores: i.e. salary delays etc
Sir HD said,
January 16, 2008 at 8:47 am
DR, I guess you are correct about who the newspapers try to please or appease.
Sir HD said,
January 16, 2008 at 8:52 am
This whole squabble will continue for a long time. Some clubs will survive and some will not. The ones that survive will be operating differently from when they originally started and may offer lower rates and or apply taxes.
chrisj said,
January 16, 2008 at 9:38 am
Hi KSB,
I’ve been with MD for quite a few months and they have given me 20%/mo everytime. What i understand though is not so much that they are exclusive but that they have a real serious backlog of applications and have been playing catch-up for a few months (not increasing staffing while so doing). i referred some folks who got replies quickly while others that i submitted at the same time took significantly longer. (no rhyme or reason).
I have been able to take fairly large amounts (over $50,000.00) when requested but recently have not been able to communicate with the office (or my cel phone contact)….no one home for the time being. Although Í should have received my 5% bonus for December my statement only showed the 20%. No worries though, since usually once you point out an error to them the adjustment(s) is made.
Also, they are not quickly (as they never were) responding to querries submitted through the website.
But since I understand how they typically operate I don’t see these actions as anything unusual.
Good luck (be prepared for the opportunities)!
Comment said,
January 16, 2008 at 10:17 am
Morning Chris J can you e-mail me here I need to have a few questions answered.
investwhileyoucan@hotmail.com
thanks
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 16, 2008 at 10:29 am
Does MD has restriction on anyone from a particular country or countries that can become members. Thanks
DH said,
January 16, 2008 at 10:35 am
post # 321
United States residents are not allowed
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 16, 2008 at 11:40 am
Thanks DH
Another question. Are we having a meeting at Jazz and Blues on Friday 25th? If there is someone on the local scene who deemed this meeting important, please set it up and I will be there.
Rich Kid said,
January 16, 2008 at 2:21 pm
#319 – Chrisj – is a 5% bonus paid consistently?
ensley said,
January 16, 2008 at 2:26 pm
referal for MD please????
smith08us@yahoo.com
DR said,
January 16, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I hope to be at Jazz and Blues but just the Thursday night, look for me under the C+,WW or the EXCLUSIVE tent …..haha hahaha haha
********************************************************
Is there really a meeting this Sunday at Conference Centre?
**********************************
Spoke to a private club leader today in Cross Roads…. She said that the regulators are not quite ready for the # of clubs that want to register….. wow…
She suspects that they were hoping to scare away the clubs…..interesting view point.
MoneyChimp said,
January 16, 2008 at 6:35 pm
DH,
I work at HSBC but never heard of those funds. I will look into this first thing tomorrow when i get to the office. If this is true, i guess i need to pay more attention to my employer.
Investment Tech said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:17 pm
cease and desist lifted on cash plus
Ian said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Is any one else have trouble accessing their WW account online?
I am Back said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Very good news – let us continue to pray for Cash Plus.
Ian said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I meant *having trouble…
Investment Tech said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Cash plus cannot accept no new members and no new investment from current members. A list of the names of all members should be submitted by c+ by feb 9 to the courts
Investment Tech said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:20 pm
WW is upgrading its online system normal service resumes on jan 28
Ian said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Thanks Investment Tech.
DR said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:35 pm
A list of the names of all the members of C+ is to be submitted….. I wonder if they will just give all the CURRENT members…..or will they list all the members from inception….. Remember I told you that the tax admin dept. is after us….
They will find a way to get the names either directly or indirectly….ouch…
(I suppose they will match that list from the list that will get from The banks)
So they will have the list of the Olint/LewFam members – - they took their computers when they raided their offices…..
Guess, they are going after WW next…..watch out!
Beware!
Sir HD said,
January 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm
MoneyChimp,
I like how your employer does business…I have been looking into switching to them recently. Currently with one of the big 5 but not Scotia, CIBC, or RBC.
KSB said,
January 16, 2008 at 9:52 pm
319, chrisj, thanks for the info. So I guess the only problem here is poor customer service…
vybzblack said,
January 16, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Hey Investment tech,
That’s great news so far for me and all other cash+ members, lets keep praying that all goes well for these clubs that are trying to enhance poor people lives.
Chrisj
can i get a referral for MD, i would greatly appreciate it. Thanks man. vybzblack@yahoo.com
JSM said,
January 16, 2008 at 10:24 pm
FYI FOR THOSE INVESTING IN OTHER COUNTRIES. TAX SEASON IS UPON US.
Tax on foreign income: “Territorial taxation,” according to which governments only tax the income earned inside their borders, is a principle of good tax policy. It is simple to enforce and it respects sovereignty since governments are not trying to tax activity that takes place in other nations. The Internal Revenue Code, however, imposes tax on the income that individuals and businesses earn abroad. But since that income is taxed already in the country where it is earned, this means that foreign income of U.S. residents is subject to two layers of tax. The tax code attempts to address this inequity by providing a credit for taxes paid to other governments, but this is a grossly inadequate solution. The tax is bad for privacy because it means that government must know, or have the ability to demand, all details about the foreign economic activities of taxpayers.
DW said,
January 16, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Anyone know if there was a notice posted on WW web page about reconstruction prior to the site being down?
chrisj said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:18 am
#324 Rich Kid,
Re: MD- The 5% bonus is paid every quarter if you do not withdraw funds during that quarter (I have two accounts with them-one rolling and the other from which I take funds from time to time ).
I was able (finally) to contact the office yesterday (16/1) evening and they explained that the bonus’s were still being calculated and should be posted by weekend.
Oh, for the WW members, I yesterday discovered someone who is getting 20%/mo from WW (after negotiation and a $300,000 investment)
Comment said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:38 am
Chrisj # 341 can you contact me @ investwhileyoucan@hotmail.com
Thanks
JK said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:51 am
DW yes there was a notice them seh them upgrading system an will be back online upgraded by the 28th
JK said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:52 am
Dear Partners,
As World Wise continue to improve the services we offer to our partners, we would like to inform you our valued partners that as of Wednesday January 16, 2008 – Sunday January 27, 2008. We will be making significant upgrade to our system. As a result of this you may experience technical difficulties when logging on to your online accounts.
Partners who are opening new accounts and making addition will not see their transactions reflected online until Monday January 28, 2008.
World Wise apologizes for any inconvenience caused but you should understand that our objective is to increase our efficiency and make ourselves more accessible to you.
Thanks for your patience
DR said,
January 17, 2008 at 5:37 am
Jan 28 – system to be fixed?
Jan 31- plan to be registered?
Hmm….. Let’s wait and see?
So I guess all the names will be on a list when WW gets registered…..ouch!
GetRich... said,
January 17, 2008 at 6:31 am
#341 ChrisJ, I just got into MD in December. From my understanding the bonus ranges between 1-5%. Correct? You have a contact number for the office in Turks? I only have the number for the “office” here in JA.
Rich Kid said,
January 17, 2008 at 8:36 am
Guys we need to channel all our energies in praying for C+ because while they got a stay of execution (good move) – the conditions that go with it is really counter the productivity of C+. There really is no difference in the position of Carlos Hill. Lets fast and pray tomorrow.
Sir HD said,
January 17, 2008 at 8:58 am
Rich Kid, I will pray….not good at fasting thing though.
Rich Kid said,
January 17, 2008 at 9:31 am
that’s good enough HD
G-Man said,
January 17, 2008 at 9:48 am
I think that C+ is in a worst position now than before because although they are not allowed to accept any new funds from new or existing customers there is no blokage as it relates to them paying out funds.
As a consquence I think people are going to start demanding their funds again.
This is a carfully crafted plot which may lead to the demise of the organisation.
vybzblack said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:00 am
AS Rich Kid said lets fast and pray.Lets not look too much on the negatives
as this will only cause us to lose focus and gets discourage. be positive and hope for the best
G-Man said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:14 am
Don`t get me wrong , not trying to be negative as I have funds in Cash Plus and I am willing to go down with the ship because it has been good to me.I was just trying to analyse the situation.
Haven`t been to church in a while but I too will start praying as I know people who really really depend on the returns from C+ survive.
Cleon said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:33 am
vybzblack / G-man
Rumour has it that C+ is currently trading in the FX in a bit to revitalize themself financially….are you guys aware of any such thing….??
G-Man said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:57 am
All I can say is that Mr Hill is a very smart man. He will do what has to be done to survive.
Don`t want to say too much as you never know who is on here.
Peace
Charlibabe said,
January 17, 2008 at 11:00 am
I am not sure if this is a rumour or fact, but has anyone heard that the properties that where purchased by Cash Plus were not done so in the Compaines name, so there really is no asset to leverage??
DW said,
January 17, 2008 at 11:13 am
Thanks for info…JK
G-Man said,
January 17, 2008 at 11:33 am
Responding to 355
I saw this in the Gleanor this morning.No name was mentioned so I guess everyone will have to come to their own conclusion.
Check out number 10.
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080117/lead/lead8.html
Question said,
January 17, 2008 at 11:47 am
DH #314 are those rates for real, they look competitive.
Anybody here got an offshore account with HSBC? Is the service good?
What about UBS?
ensley said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:42 pm
GETRICH
can you email me at smith08us@yahoo.com
i need to ask you a couple questions
KMoney said,
January 17, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Interesting Article!!
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20080116T230000-0500_131482_OBS_CASH_PLUS_GETS_STAY_OF_CEASE_AND_DESIST_ORDER.asp
Sharonette said,
January 17, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Will be praying for C+ too..Dont got cash there, but know a number of persons who do..Yesterday someone told me he got a call early in the morning from them telling him to roll until April 11 and that he will be able to collect the payments owed to him from november. So they seem to be streamlining their operations too.
XOF said,
January 17, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Seeking a referral for MD. Email me at giosmith@hotmail.com
Thanks.
Skeem said,
January 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm
http://www.offshorebank.net/offshore-banks/
Skeem said,
January 17, 2008 at 5:11 pm
http://www.lloydstsb-offshore.com/
Skeem said,
January 17, 2008 at 5:12 pm
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Find a list of offshore financial centres with links to offshore banks at the respective locations at http://www.worldoffshorebanks.com
Optimistic said,
January 17, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I have $1650.00 left in a NCB account and I am not even leaving that with them. Those guys are evil and they need to be STOPPED!!!!!
AW said,
January 17, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Interesting blogg page titled FOREX FEVER
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/blog/template_permalink.asp?id=27#27
nash said,
January 17, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Skeem
#365, add the small island of St. Kittis & Nevis to that list.
Rich Kid said,
January 17, 2008 at 7:55 pm
#366 – Optimistic – I sincerely hope that is JA$
POSITIVE said,
January 17, 2008 at 9:02 pm
MONEY CHIMP
Is HSBC the offshore bank on line ? I was looking at it on line and only saw addresses in South Africa,Dubai and Asia. If that is the same company where are they located in the U.S.A ? or wherever you are. Do you know how long they have been around ? if you prefer to send by email :geomar24@hotmail.com.
thanks
vybzblack said,
January 17, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Cleon,
haven’t heard any such rumour or recieve any info on cash+ doing such thing.I’m hearing that NCB is going to go ahead and close their accounts. Oppressors are huffing and puffing, don’t want the small man live a independent life, must always work to put money in the oppressors pocket while he is partying ,sleeping and enjoying la good life style.
TB said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:55 pm
http://www.minvestment.com/r=jettt
If you are skeptic, you can start with as little as US$15.00. Sure, you can not be averse to risking $15 if you’re serious about success.
However, as with any investment, there is risk, and the higher the yield, the higher the risk, so I am not in a position to offer you any guarantees. You will have to make a judgment call. I just thought I’d let you know. Also remember: only invest what you can afford to lose and do your individual Due Diligence.
TB said,
January 17, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Thats http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt
SB said,
January 17, 2008 at 11:21 pm
TB – see page below. are they talking about you? LOL
http://www.ibiobiz.com/?p=246
Sharonette said,
January 18, 2008 at 12:18 am
TB…your 150 days have passed…if you had invested $300 then you should have pulled down 30g’s by this
chrisj said,
January 18, 2008 at 6:18 am
#346 Get Rich,
As I know it, the bonus is fixed at 5%. No, I do not have a number for the Turks office. I have been able to get all concerns addressed through the local number.
There is an administrative fee of 2% taken the first month so don’t panic when you see your gains at 18% on the first statement.
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 7:17 am
So ‘Capital and Credit’ does have their own ‘Money Express’ : If I were them, I would seek to change the name as fast as possible…..
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The same court that gave C+ permission to pay out to its investors, is the same court that allowed NCB to close most of C+ accounts the following day: ouch:
So how people gwine get their money now…. Which bank is going to take C+ money…. Lenders have to wait on the overseas bank accounts?
Please note: The above was done 1 day apart: OH NO!
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 8:12 am
This has really been a rough period for the “Alternative Investments sector”: First it was Olint, LewFam, C+, HigginsW, MonExpress that were in the news in a negative light… Now a Scheme Leader is in trouble with the law….(won’t call his name right here). He was charged for fraud.
Oh Lord please help us.
melanie said,
January 18, 2008 at 8:41 am
Vela Invest
Do you know of anyone who has done the forex coaching with the company you mentioned earlier?
Also anyone heard or done the course with Fcxchange group in Fort lauderdale or Jamaica? Is it really worth the $1000 for the 16hrs? or is it a lot of hype , Any views appreciated on forex training.classes
JANSAW said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:28 am
if a scheme leader is in trouble with the law…we MUST know….infact how did u know that….news, print media or hear say.
JOE JOE said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:35 am
Dr forward the information, I think it would be a benfit to all of us.
Coreg said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:43 am
# 380 JanSaw it was on radio jamaica :
http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/4717/26/
Enlightened said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:47 am
Jansaw DR is right at post 378 the link below has the details, and this was a large “official” one with pernel charles and other politicians and business officials at its launch. They pay 10-12 percent per month and are at chelsea AVE.
http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/4717/26/
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:48 am
ON TUESDAY AT POST 283, I spoke about Scotia’s pse of Tradefreedom, some of u may have missed it..so its in the observer…there are many changes to come in the financial services market, and I am happy to see that the regulators talk are now going in the right direction vis a vis the legislative changes that are required.
http://jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080117T160000-0500_131507_OBS_NEW_REGULATORY_AGENCY_COMING__
Sir HD said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:49 am
I think this is good news guys….nothing wrong with the right kind of regulation.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080117T160000-0500_131507_OBS_NEW_REGULATORY_AGENCY_COMING__.asp
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:50 am
http://jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080117T160000-0500_131507_OBS_NEW_REGULATORY_AGENCY_COMING__.asp
Rich Kid said,
January 18, 2008 at 9:58 am
#378……….it was on the news this morning Pusey of Partner Investment (or something like that).. Is that the person DR?
Sir HD said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:05 am
Some facts and some trash:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080113/cleisure/cleisure2.html
knowledgesponge said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:08 am
Patricia or other True North bloggers
Since I live in the True North if I was to open a J.A National account and wire from my AI based in US to JA would that serve the same as an Offshore account? Another question is the JA National a bank I should deal with when it comes to AI payments coming from wires ?
Thanks in Advance for the responses, Great blog
Sir HD said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:10 am
Some much for the idea that the ones among us who are born with a silver spoon in their mouth are involved in “better” investment programs:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080113/lead/lead2.html
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:23 am
#390, KNOWLEDGESPONGE, technically, an account in a country other than the one in which u live, is an offshore account…that said it does not automatically offer u asset protection, privacy or any tax related benefits.
Sharonette said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:31 am
DR….I heard about that person too, but i heard a good explanation for it. Something where you use your middle name instead of your first name.How many of us knew that our chief servant’s first name was Orette until elections the other day? It was brought to the fore by a major commercial bank, I wonder which one?
Anyway take a look at what Sir Shaw has to say….NEW REGULATOR COMING? …SCOTIA Canada acquires Tradefreedom Securities -fx trading..Ironic isn’t it?
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080117T160000-0500_131507_OBS_NEW_REGULATORY_AGENCY_COMING__.asp
Kevin2 said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:39 am
Only time will tell but for now, I think DS should get some kind of award from the Govt. The spirit of this guy is changing the investment climate in Jamaica. Scotia is clearly going to meet the fx competition and I am sure NCB will not be far behind. (BTW, always remember to boycott NCB in everything that they do!). And then there is the talk of new regulatory body. Amen!! to that.
Fx trading was always getting more and more attention in the world but if DS didn’t do what he did I think investors in JA would still be in the palm of banks.
Oh and someone should tell the Gleaner that the photo they keep placing as DS is not DS but his brother WS.
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 11:17 am
Brigadier General Anthony, thank you.
Enlightened said,
January 18, 2008 at 11:35 am
Please note one important thing : “ScotiaBank Jamaica” bought the fx trading firm in canada.
Why is “scotiabank jamaica” going to canada to buy out a FX trading outfit??… if they really believe that returns cant be made by DS WW MD then why are they buying this company?? say one thing and do the other is how it appears to me.
And there is some word flying around about a secret floor at the tower of ncb working on training some persons to offer a new FX product.
So lets face it what is the real situation with WW DS and soon enough MD…
I believe the bank that it is for their protection… the protection of their bottom line!!!
Its sad that the banks should be allowed to carry out this kind of anti-competition activities… Remember when they were smaller in 05 and 06 … and bill clarke didnt care because the didnt affect his bank and skip forward 2 years later they are bigger and now the banks trying to stomp them out.
May the traders pull through and hope fully get regulted so that the banks dont have a leg to stand on with closing their accounts.
Sharonette said,
January 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Remember to be offering up the prayers today for ALL the Investment Clubs investors and investees alike
. Mention even the ‘FIGHTERS/Zaccheuses’…they need even more prayers that God will change their ways and hearts that they may give back fourfold to those they have robbed…..(in our dreams)
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Enlightened, Bank of Nova Scotia, the parent co, as far as I know psed TradeFreedom, last year through its investing arm ScotiaMcLeodDirectInvesting(SDMI)…
http://www.tradefreedom.com/en/promos/splash_1.asp?ID=4254-1B
Bill would have known that this was in the pipeline…he was noticeably quiet about the whole sustainability of fx, but mostly spoke out against C+…..
I dont know if there will be managed fx accounts, but I’m sure they’ll make a bundle in fees etc, the bank itself wont necessarily be trading $$$, but they’ll surely make a mint from the services offered.
Patricia said,
January 18, 2008 at 1:10 pm
http://www.afflictedyard.com/death_in_tivoli.htm
NOT AN INVESTMENT RELATED TOPIC…these painfully graphic images tell the sorry tale of things still happening in the LAND WE LOVE
DB said,
January 18, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Patricia (#398) – You are so right! That sure puts things in perpective. It’s a shame that the “powers that be” are so taken up with money, greed and competition instead of dealing with the real issues in JA.
vybzblack said,
January 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm
I just got a call from a friend that there is a demonstration going on right now at cash+ against ncb and the tvj crew is there. i guess this will be big in the news later and in the papers tomorrow.
Enlightened said,
January 18, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Vybz …
Is the demonstration at cash plus or is it at NCB i wasnt clear??
vybzblack said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm
it’s at priemer plaza and it’s against the oppressor
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Well Yes Mr Pusey – - I know him personally, I was there at the launch at Chelsea Avenue….along with 4 JLP officials including Pearnel, Desmond Mc, (mayor) etc…even the child advocate Betty-Ann Blaine was the MC… I am so sorry to hear – - but all should be well…his lawyer is Samuels-Brown…. SHE IS BIG!
That lawyer got off Adams, and I think Zeeks…. She knows her work….
We will pray for Partners Financial…..
Sir HD said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I got home 2:30 this morning and I prayed…especially for the people who need C+ to make ends meet….and for the people who decided to put them likel extra in it instead of betting on two lazy half breed donkey at Caymans Park.
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I always figured that one day “Bill” and “Michael” would join the action…. watch that secret room at Oxford Road….h a hah haha
Bill only spoke out against C+…. He stayed away from Forex trading…. He knew he was coming up with something…
I am sure their rates will not pass 6% per month though…and that some months it might be negative….
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:52 pm
So by the middle of the year the list of local traders should include
1. Bill 2. Michael 3. WW 4. David’s Olint
The list of OFF-SHORE will include
1. F1 2. OlintTCI 3. K…Exch 4.MD
The Greatest of these is Minvestment. ha h ah a
**************************
The has-been would include:
PONZIs (fill in the blanks)
Cleon said,
January 18, 2008 at 3:59 pm
LOL !!!!!
thats a funny one SIr HD……..altho what u r saying is quite right
Chick a Dee said,
January 18, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Guys,
Do you think there is a chance investors will get there money back at Azan’s Outfit.? I am cautiously optimistic. Should I be?
Tasha said,
January 18, 2008 at 5:17 pm
OKAY GUYS
A couple of days ago I was speaking with someone who works at a reputable bank in the corporate area and the individual indicated that they know someone who was paid via Minvestment. While I am not a big fan of the HYIP and the online only investment schemes, of course this informtaion pertaining to someone getting paid caught my attention. So I looked at the Minvestment site and used the compound calculator and saw that $200 US would make about 25K in 150 days. Is this for real?.
While I have been reading this blog from day 1, Minivestment was not a topic I paid alot of attention to because I was not interested. Now a little interest may have been sparked by the conversation.
So guys refresh my memory instead of sending me to read through countless pages of blog responses. DOES ANYONE ON THIS SITE KNOW SOMEONE WHO GOT PAID VIA MINVESTMENT? and what was the amount and was it actually 150 business days?
Thanks
ForexGuy said,
January 18, 2008 at 6:02 pm
There is not verifiable way of proving that someone actually received their minvestment payout unless you access their e-gold or e-bullion account. As for any payouts, I have seen NOTHING online to indicate anyone has gotten a big payout. And considering that the first 150 days should have been up in early to mid December, that’s pretty strange. I personally would not advise nyone to invest in such an obvious scheme. Their returns plans are absolutely unbelievable, and the fall of Minvestment is inevitable.
DR said,
January 18, 2008 at 6:32 pm
I agree Minvestment is a scam PONZI…but guess what I only placed what I can afford to lose ($80)….. But if it works…then in July I will pull down $9000…..wow…
That figure has nothing to do with my other investments or even my salary….ouch…
With God’s help I would never look back…..
RB said,
January 18, 2008 at 7:43 pm
can anybody give me a referral to MD?
would be greatly appreciated.thanks.
stooves@hotmail.com
MoneyChimp said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:04 pm
WOW, OLINT may not allow members who withdrew all their funds to re-join the club. Actually they will not allow those clients to re-join at this time. Friends please do not be alarmed by the FSC and local banks trying to close clubs’ accounts. These are nothing but scare tactics and we must remain patient.
InDeRiver said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:17 pm
money chimp, gimme alink ,moreryon@yahoo.com
Rabbit said,
January 18, 2008 at 10:21 pm
I have been reading the postings on this site for a while now, and I have noticed that some of the bloggers are too open-talk too much. There are things that should not be said on this site because it is an open forum. You must be aware that the “dogs” are watching for any and every bone that is being thrown out. Risky investment is not for the faint hearted. If you do not have guts please do not take risk. I have worked hard for my money and if I want to invest it in risky business,it is my doing and no one should be crying ouver it. I am grown and this soldier is going to stand up and do what he wants with his money because I work for it not no goverment or bank. Therefore, all the faint harted people who are afraid please do not join the investment clubs because I am tired of hearing and seeing people dashing to the doors of clubs as soon as they hear the “dogs” barking. Just be brave and stand up, FOREX is not illegal.
Sue Sue said,
January 19, 2008 at 1:54 am
I second that Rabbit. I feel you bro/sis!! No government should have any power over what investment(s) we do with our hard earn money. As you said FOREX is perfectly Legal.
Sir HD said,
January 19, 2008 at 9:41 am
These numbers explain the politics by the banks and the efforts to sabotage the businesses:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080118/news/news7.html
Sir HD said,
January 19, 2008 at 9:46 am
Interesting thoughts about money, wealth, and Jesus. I think if Jesus was here today he would want us to take a chance with these clubs but do it in a judicious way:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080119/letters/letters2.html
Sir HD said,
January 19, 2008 at 9:50 am
Interesting commentary and good advice. I like the advice “1) Be balanced and objective in your criticism;”
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080118/business/business6.html
Sir HD said,
January 19, 2008 at 9:59 am
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to “get-rich-quick” ….why is that such a bad thing ??? We all want to get rich so that we can make ourselves and our family comfortable, healthy, and educated , take care of the sick and needy , help build our country and our community.
So if we all want to get rich why is it better to get rich slow and bad to get rich quick.
It is this drive and desire in other peoples in other countries that make those countries so rich and powerful.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to “get-rich-quick”. The most important thing is that it is done honestly, and with good intentions.
Sir HD said,
January 19, 2008 at 10:03 am
I think some of your guys mentioned this protest yesterday :
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20080118T220000-0500_131557_OBS_CASH_PLUS_MEMBERS_TAKE_PROTEST_TO_NCB_IN_HALF_WAY_TREE_.asp
TB said,
January 19, 2008 at 5:13 pm
http://www.minvestment.con/?r=jettt
Check it out!
TB said,
January 19, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Thats http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt
Cleon said,
January 19, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Hey TB,
Base on what you said on the last blog, you should have about two weeks to go for your 150 with Minvestment…please let us know when you get your dividents thanks….well “if yuh get it that is” …
Nuh badda tink wi figet…:)
Bless
XOF said,
January 19, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Is anyone having problems getting wire transfer from world wise?
Chick a Dee said,
January 19, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Question too.. is anyone having difficulties getting wire tranfer from May Daisy?
DH said,
January 19, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Chick a dee
when did you make the request
Soulja said,
January 19, 2008 at 11:25 pm
I requested I wire transfer from WW recently and I am still waiting to see if I will get it
NM said,
January 19, 2008 at 11:50 pm
We are tired of TB
NM said,
January 19, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Talk about something else TB
Question said,
January 19, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Does anyone know how to get the wiring info for MD? I was told that when I sign in I would see the wire info….I dont, and I have since tried the various menus and none of them reveal the wiring info.
Where in the GUI would I be able to retrieve the wiring info….or do I have to ask the person who referred me for the info (that doesn’t seem to make sense to me though)???
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 20, 2008 at 12:52 am
‘Amalgamate High-Risk Schemes’
Some banks’ liabilities exceeded their assets
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080120/lead/lead3.html
Rich Kid said,
January 20, 2008 at 5:49 am
#431…..Question the hyperlink is right at the top of the page when you go on the page to make a payment.
Rich Kid said,
January 20, 2008 at 5:52 am
#426 – go it ok last month – have not tried again. I know persons who have gotten since they reopened in January.
TB said,
January 20, 2008 at 8:16 am
Hey Cleon and NM I have 5 more days to go . Will let you know how it goes. Smile.
Get Rich... said,
January 20, 2008 at 9:15 am
Hey TB, so that’s why you are promoting the hell outta di scam.hoping it will last long enough for you to get paid. You suck!!! LOL!. I hope they cut the day b4 your payment. Just kidding, I hope you get paid. I wish I had found it early like you did. I am actually surprised that they still exist. Must be all the new money that Jamaicans pumped in recently. Anyway if you get paid you should probably drop the money in one of our “safe” clubs and make some profits on it just in case you have to give it back. There is a closed program named colon end parenthesis (CEP) aka a smile
because who doesn’t have a big smile when they are making money. hahah. Anyway the SEC intervened and found out that it was a ponzi. I am not sure about the details but I think all members are now locked in legal battles. Those who loss money are being refunded and those who “profited” are being forced to give it back.
Carol said,
January 20, 2008 at 9:53 am
So TB – dem time next wek – yuh a skin teeth? Can I be your new bestfriend
?
Investment Tech said,
January 20, 2008 at 11:45 am
Interesting article
http://jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20080120/lead/lead3.html
PonDeBank said,
January 20, 2008 at 12:38 pm
CHRISJ or Miss Carol, I see that you are in MDaisy. Mrister Chris thanks for all the help you have been given. and i am asking a question. A frend of mine got through and after reading this blog I want to join. My friend get refered last month but everything not sorted yet. Reading here I know they will get through fully at it seems to take awhile.They will refer me I know. But i hear that they dont take foreign Jamaicans. Is that for real or only those in America. What about if you in England Canada or another island?. Can anyone of you answer please as I really hope now I get the chance I can make good. Please let me know. Thanks very much.
Carol said,
January 20, 2008 at 12:44 pm
They don’t take American residents for sure – but I know Canadian residents are safe – I have a friend who is in it. Don’t know about other countries though.
tgm said,
January 20, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Chrisj or Carol,
Could either of you give me a referral to May Daisy
Bless
tgm@flowja.com
Kevin2 said,
January 20, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I see that the Gleaner is actively reading our blog judging from the article “How a Monet Trader Went Bad” in the Business section that we posted some time ago here. To the Gleaner reporters reading our blog I say don’t just report the negatives report the positives.
Anyway…the gleaner also reported the following article below:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080120/news/news2.html
If our young WORKING university educated PROFESSIONALS are finding it hard to make ends meet at a ridiculously low take home pay what say about the little man in the country. What if these young professionals placed money in Cash + or other clubs to make life better for themselves? Should you punish them because you deem them trying to get rich quick? People are simply trying to get by in life. The studies say the majority of investors in these clubs are middle income earners and professionals. So to all you ignoramos with nothing to say but criticisms of these clubs…..please remember that middle income earners and professionals in large are by no means the wealthy among us.
DH said,
January 20, 2008 at 4:58 pm
http://www.global-investment-institute.com/stop-working-for-your-money-and-make-your-money-work-for-you.htm.
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DW said,
January 20, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I have a QUESTION for anyone that care to respond.Why are Jamaican/ U.S Residents not allowed to become members of MDaisy? Could this be because of Tax implications?
DW said,
January 20, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Some people call us JAMERICANS…..lol
specs said,
January 20, 2008 at 10:33 pm
can any one say that if md is licensed in tci or any where else my friend sent me a referral , but i am in deep with cp so i want to spread my portfolio
RB said,
January 20, 2008 at 11:04 pm
can anyone give me a referral to MD. thanks.
email is stooves@yahoo.com
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 4:50 am
Did anyone attend the CARIEF meeting yesterday? Will anybody be going today (Monday)….. it’s at the conference center at 10am …I understand….
Anthony said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:05 am
Olint has made a statement that only loyal members will be tolerated in their club and all those that are withdrawing at this time, every effort will be made to keep them from rejoining. They also said that two years ago when there was a run on the company they paid out over 80%. They also said they continue to be completely liquid and only pay what is made re interest. A contingency plan is being put in place in case they lose the case against NCB.
In my opinion I think more of these clubs needs to take this step, as in as much as we are in it for the money the clubs need to also implement strategies to secure other members from those who like to cause panic by running with the crowd without even knowing y they are running.
I also noticed that suggestions are being made in the media to keep the poor man out of high risk on the basis that the poor has nothing that they can afford to lose.
Patricia you are most welcome.
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:15 am
Anthony, I saw the article that suggests the poor has nothing they can afford to lose (hurt but true)…………hmm well poor people cannot find $5000….. They usually hook up together……….. WW did say they will be starting at $5000 in February…. in fact most clubs start-up minimum is $5000…….
jhjjhjhj said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:29 am
Anthony, are those statements by Olint in print somewhere ? Can you point me to it ?
Thanks
Sharonette said,
January 21, 2008 at 9:29 am
Kevin2,
I read the article yesterday in the Gleaner and thought the same thing. It seems we are now providing the media with “second-hand” news item.
Come on media personnel, go get some new news and give us something “new” to read when we buy the papers( or read them online).
Here’s a challenge….go find some dirt on MLC similar to the one found on CHill. We know that there is ‘white’ dirt there, we just need some media personnel with the training to go digging for it…Maybe that will keep him cool for a while.
Well ponzi or no ponzi I heard of a payout for Minv. of $J6mil…early bird catches the worm….TB hope you will catch your worm Friday….we all wanna be your ‘new best friends’
Rich Kid said,
January 21, 2008 at 10:24 am
Aynbody wants to purchase 2 tickets for jazz festival (Friday night) @ a discounted cost of $4,770 each (the original cost is $5,300)
Coreg said,
January 21, 2008 at 11:00 am
# 451 JHJJHJHJ
You seem to working for the media Anthony said enough in his post # 449
If you are not a club member jhjjhjhj you need to see nothing more
Peace
Anthony said,
January 21, 2008 at 11:48 am
Flow is really monopolizing the market to SQUEEZE us just like how NCB has been SQUEEZING us. Thank the Lord I live in an area where my cable provider refuses to sell out to Flow. I really do not know how long they will be able to hold off MLC though because he has a tendency to fight dirty. This is now becoming like wrestling where the referee looks away when he needs to because the decision was made long before the fight.
Enlightened said,
January 21, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Anthony let me tell you this dont swear for you cable company unless you know the owners personally…. if you are served by a really large and popular cable company that has refused to sell out for the last year … just wait for the announcement…. its going to shock everyone!!
There are at least two more announcements left to come but one is going to floor alot of people… with the two to come flow officially owns cable in ja.
Mark this post till the announcement … all that is left is the possible name change.
Sharonette said,
January 21, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Enlightened…I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case…you just marvel at the hypocrisy that is in high places .This quote that was in the gleaner some days ago makes it look like the Broadcasting commission is fighting for the small man… When the ‘take-overs’ happen then we will hear of some clause in FLOW’s contract that allows them to monopolize the market.
“FLOW’s recent swift acquisition of several cable television companies and the granting of an islandwide cable licence by the Broadcast Commission has led many to argue that the multimillion-dollar firm’s aim is to push small players out of the market and establish a monopoly.
The Broadcast Commission argued, however, that regulatory measures have been put in place to safeguard against the abuse of dominance by FLOW in Jamaica’s subscriber television sector.”
Patricia said,
January 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm
The name Minna Israel may not mean much to many here, but trust me she is a POWERHOUSE in banking. She is now to be the new head of RBTT Jamaica.
Read this article
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071221/business/business1.html
Again more interesting times ahead on the financial scene as RBC, it seems, will soon be re-entering JA
Anthony_dundee said,
January 21, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I posted this on Yahoo Answers myself and got a reply,
Can someone tell me if Lewfam and Olint are legitimate investment houses?
If you are an investor with these companies can you shed some light on them. Are they bona fide and authentic. Any one knows David Smith personally?
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Yes they are. I am an investor with Lewfam and know Mr. Lewis personally. Both Olint and Lewfam are legitimate. FX trading is a real investment opportunity. I personally have lost a lot of money in currency trading at other US based trade houses but never with Lewfam. Ligimacy and the effectiveness of trading with success are two separate things. With any investment the investor must measure the risk with the reward. I decided to invest with Lewfam because my parents have tripled there money and have removed everything they put in. Moreover, I have close friends who have taken there money out three fold and still have a significant amount remaining and take monthly draws. Olint is currently closed but Lewfam is still open to new members because of how they responded to the FSC and the “legal” issue – which is a big joke. Even in the US you can have a pooled accounts. The issue/concern for any one interested in a pooled accounts is transparency, trust and predictability of performance. Both Olint and Lewfam have built there organizations on a VERY successful track record and doing business with integrity. Other “clubs” in Jamaica may not be as legit, so make sure you only risk what you are willing to loose. Please let me know if you have any more questions and if you need a referral to join- Glad to help.
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Patricia said,
January 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm
http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/4771/52/
This is what Anthony spoke about earlier.
Patricia said,
January 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Jhjhjhjh….from RJR, want anymore news???
Anthony said,
January 21, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Hey Enlightened
I am just being optimistic about my cable company because after all the owner is just a small fish in a pond presumably owned by MLC. However knowing the situation I really try to pay my bill early and also encourage their efforts in holding off that ferocious ALLIGATOR. I will let you know the end result.
Enlightened said,
January 21, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Anthony,
The company that im hinting at is a large cable provider, but it was said that they would never sell out… but i heard that the offer was too sweet to resist…. its not public yet but when it is you wont even have to as which one i am talking about.
When flow controls most of the market then it wont matter to them if there are a few independent people because they have an all island licence and all they need to do after that is lay the cable in the community and wait for the other companies to die a natural death.
and i think you meant holding of that ferocious “A-LEE-gator”
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Mr MLC trying desparately to become the Mr Ted Rogers or Mr Ted Turner of Jamaica ….hmmmm. Soon he will control cable, media, and the internet in Jamaica and nobody can post anything about him on the internet blogs or they lose service .
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Worse yet…not only do they lose service, the bank account that they use to pay bills get closed…hahah
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 2:24 pm
The markets are very nasty today, but I am sure all the forex traders are making a bundle of pips by going short on the US dollar….looking forward to the Jan returns for those investments that give variable returns.
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Did someone say that the al-LEE-gator has “white” dirt? ha ha h aha You guys are crazy.
Oh what a pharmacy?
MoneyChimp said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I have no input. Just wanna say hi.
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Enlighted….Be Careful we might “TELL” a certain “STAR” of your intentions to sell some “SYSTEMS of ENTERTAINMENT”……. read between the lines…..
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I’d rather “trickle” with a “worthless cable telephone company” than dive in the “flowing” river at this time.
GetRich... said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:15 pm
#466 Shouldn’t that be going long? I just logged into my fxcm demo account and the usd seems to be strengthening against most of the other currencies.
Enlightened said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Dr.
It seem as though one of you patients has spoken to you was well….
Well doc when the news got to some people i know their eyes immediately start run water, and them pocket soon start loose weight so, when the announcement is officilly made … i’ll refer them to you.
Hope you know the cure for poor service and light pockets
JustCurious said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Why is it that the clubs need local bank accounts and therefore cheque leaves to pay members? If they are trading offshore, they have bank accounts already. So when members request w/drws why dont they just wire the funds to folks’ account and take the bank charge from their account.
Can some one explain this? and no I am not with the media or oppressors.Just curious especially after reading the news today.
JANSAW said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:26 pm
THE GOVERNMEN SOLD US OUT ………AS ALWAYZZZZZZZZ…CANT WE EVER SEE THOSE THINGS COMING FROM FAR
Patricia said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Hi to you too MoneyChimp
Did you get any info on those HSBC funds?..we’d love to hear.
Enlightened said,
January 21, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Re:#473
You make and excellent point and one which i myself have raised given certain recent developements. Im told that is one of the alternatives that is being looked, there is apparently so legal or operational problems with wiring money to a lot of varing account within the caribbean…. and will create problems for their overseeas accounts….
What i dont get is this only abank can wire money to another bank … so the receiving bank should be able to rely on the funds comming from the sending bank as clean and if so why not just let the people conduct their business. Provide them with their cheque leaves and let them pay their customers.
Also the people running on the clubs (even the exclusives)… is creating a problem even for the loyal people that by chance need to make business withdrawals at this time. I think the article in sundays paper about amalgamating the alternative investments and the clubs making the amount requirements higher is a good thing as it will help to weed out the weak stomach gamblers.
what do you guys think??…. is 300,000 jm or its equivalent a good starting point??
KMoney said,
January 21, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Has anybody heard that MD is having administrative problem??
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Get Rich, thats right going long with respect to most such as EUR/US, US/CAD, AUD/US, a few such as USD/JPY could have gone short on.
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 5:14 pm
KMoney…..shshhh we hope that is not true of that EXCLUSIVE!
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Enlightened…….I really think US$3000 or maybe US$5000 is a good starting point….but maybe because I qualify now….. a year ago….I had to borrow JA$50,000 just to get into C+…… now US$5000 is not a problem……..wow…..God be praised!
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You are tired of the struggles….you put your money at risk….Bill & Michael says….”STOP!”…then the regulators says “Cease & Desist”….then the Chief Servant says”I won’t bail you out”….. and here comes the Tax man “I want 25% of your interest whether it is regulated or un-regulated”…..
OH NO! that hurts……
Sharonette said,
January 21, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I just saw this awhile ago..if you all missed it they have once again put the puppet on the stand to take the heat “NCB clarifies Pusey allegations ”
http://www.jncb.com/corp_info/news.asp?Story=258
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Thanks Sharonette
PonDeBank said,
January 21, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Problems? What ae adminstrtive problems? I am planning to throw my partner hand soon. I only hope that those problems will go away. I have been waiting for so long my money save up. I have faith though.
Sharonette said,
January 21, 2008 at 5:59 pm
But then again, you never see smoke without fire…I searched and found what the ‘a-LEE-gations’ were
http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/4726/26/
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Do you all realize that for December, that famous Money Market place…interest rate was less than 1% for the month – - then taxes/management fees and GCT were taken out… ouch….THAT”S CRAZY!
All of that was done in a double-digit inflated society.
DR said,
January 21, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Why don’t they write “Will the real Michael please stand up”…… Is it because they would be served CEASE & DESIST by the al-LEE-gators?
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 7:13 pm
DR,
It is actually because they would have their bank accounts closed and they would not be able to write checks to people who they need to pay and have those checks changed by the said bank because some strange rule in the banking regulations don’t allow them to do that…..sarcasm intended…:-)
On a serious note what message is being sent if a bank can just close a businesses account or under the quiet refuse to change checks issued against their account or send employee memo’s to employees not to do business with a certain individual or business.
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 7:19 pm
DR, it is actuall because they may have their bank accounts closed if they write that or they might not have checks drawn on their accounts honored by the said bank becuase some strange rule in the banking regulation said that is not allowed….after 4-6 years….and also give them the power to do as such….sarcasm intented…:-)
On a serious note what kind of message are they sending if they can under the quiet or otherwise stop honoring checks for someone’s business for no good reason….after 4-6 years….and send secret memo to bank employees to not do business with their very own customer’s business….strange….after 4-6 years.
Sir HD said,
January 21, 2008 at 7:21 pm
This blog is crazy. It tell me it had system error and mek me type over the thing and then it post two of them.
DH said,
January 21, 2008 at 7:50 pm
A lot of people killing themselves to get into the executive clubs and not taking the time to do their due deligence and if they had, they would have known certain characteristics of the clubs and not run around panicing
Peace
Rich Kid said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:02 pm
#476….. I am not sure of what administrative problems you are referring but MD has always been quite slow with registering persons. but you give me the administrative problems anyday over financial and legal problems
I personally don’t have a problem with them – I get my funds when I request it and I can get them on the phone.
sharon said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:10 pm
KMoney ….I heard some the same thing….
sharon said,
January 21, 2008 at 8:11 pm
About MD
DR said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:23 am
Sir HD, I follow you…. ha ha Guess we connected intelectually…. We will all continue to ‘observe’….haha. hahha
‘They’ seem to be working to build a better nation…hahah hahhah
At least “they” might have something in common. Guess?
(white dirt) ha ha
JustCurious said,
January 22, 2008 at 9:29 am
I have been reading quite a few of these blogs about the clubs. There is one called Cash+Investments. Do you folks know that one? One of the posters in particular has been stating that all the clubs are ponzis. He seems to have some personal problems with Olint’s head and says that many pple have requested their money, have been waiting since Jan 1 and that no money is coming because it is a Ponzi…this really bothers me. There seem to be many with sinister motives who are dtermined by whatever means to have the clubs fail.
I personally think that they are also infiltrating the blogs and spreading fear and panic. I have heard so many rumours but I believe a particular bank is determined enough that it will engage in all types of tactics.
I found this blog and it took me forever to read evrything and I dont see even 1 post saying they not getting $ from Olint or WW. If pple are not being paid wouldn’t they come out and say so? Wouldn’t it be more public. PPle are evn calling police on their club. This whole thing has got so dirty. It is shameful.
Patricia said,
January 22, 2008 at 9:36 am
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/22/news/companies/bac_results/index.htm?postversion=2008012208
Roller coaster times. Mutual Funds taking a walloping OOOUUUCCHHH!!!!!
..anyway all the more reason to diversify. HD like you I am very interested in the returns for January..lot of volatility, lets hope we’re on the right side of movements
Curves said,
January 22, 2008 at 9:41 am
Rich Kid can you please give me a referral to MD. My email is curvycurves1b@gmail.com. Much appreciated.
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 10:58 am
Has anyone heard that WW will be closing soon? There are so many rumours
believe me!!
Comment said,
January 22, 2008 at 11:33 am
Lets all keep the bad new we are hearing and Rumors to a limit Andre needs to open up another channel for those people to share there own feelings and leave this blog for the ones who want to better themselves and learn how to diversify and make some extra money. I’m very astonished about people coming here and saying hear this hear that just keep that to your selves…
Lets continue the constructive and mature investment strategies that PATRICIA, DR, SIR HD, Sharonette, Anthony and the others have to say on a regular basic and thank them.
For the Joy Stealers.
Joy is everyone’s strength; please don’t steel our joy of doing the things we as grown adults want to do. The Apostle Paul wrote more than half of the New Testament while incarcerated, often in prison cells not much bigger than a small bathroom. Some historians and bible commentators believe that the raw sewage system of that day ran right through one of the dungeons in which he was imprisoned. Yet Paul wrote such amazing faith-filled words as, “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”.
We need to understand that the enemy is not really after your dreams, your health, or finances. He’s not primarily after your family. He’s after you joy.
All the best bloggers.
Ian said,
January 22, 2008 at 11:41 am
Good ‘Comment’.
Comment said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Thanks Ian
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Comment..here is a forum for sharing..I’m just sharing what i heard!
I really want to tell u to kiss my ass but afraid that Andre may remove me from the blog!!!…HECK…I’LL TAKE THHE RISK…KISS MY ASS!!!
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Unu too uptight! Dont say this & dat. Freedom of speech!!Have u ever heard of it!!
KMoney said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:20 pm
DR (#478): Thats what I have been hearing. I am not a member, but just curious.
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PonDeBank (#481): Look into it PonDeBank. When you least expect it…Exclusive or not!!
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sharon (#490): Really…interesting. So I am not the only (few) who has heard. I honestly hope that this does not jeopardize anything…for the members sake.
Knowledge is not power, the use of Knowledge is!!!
Dontgiveadamn said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm
LOL!!! Comment lef Sheraig alone!! Some a unu really too uptight. Maybe its
Think bout it!! Anyhow this is not the purpose of the forum. She’s only sharing what she heard> i dont see anything wrong with that. Some one in one of the previous forums were saing that HW is a scam..People are entitled to their own view & opinion. Sheraig u fiesty though!!
you & Ian who need a private forum
Fancy D said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Well the last I heard was that WW have applied to the FSC for regulating their business. I have not heard anything about closing doors. And also when they become regulated those who wish to join will be required a minimum of $5000 to join. I heard this from an interview with the owner on TV J recently
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Thanks Fancy D! We’re all in this together! I’m trying to scare anyone to do anything rash. But this forum is for sharing, whether positive or negative information. Most of us want to be silent but listen to what everybody has to say. Some of us need to know we cant accumulate all the money out there it affi share!!!! Unu mek DH gone…..mi will leave off my own free will!!!….
Fancy D said,
January 22, 2008 at 12:55 pm
LOL…I agree. Wealth Max peeps need to share the negative and the positive. We should use this board as an informative sounding board. I have REALLY learned alot from being a member, and I have really met some positive people from it…big up ONEAL and DWSALCOTT
Carol said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:02 pm
What has this forum come to? Sheraig, was that necessary, after all, Comment does have a valid point.
its a good “Comment” Ian.
Comment said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Bloggers who felt offended by comments made, when I made reference to Joy Stealers I was speaking about the Banks, FSC, the oppressors and the other institutions that are trying to steal the joy of the investors. So if anyone took this incorrectly I say when you go through situations you don’t understand, don’t become bitter. ☺ Once the bitter root is gone, you will be able to break free from that.
All the best.
GetRich... said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Ok guys I need some advice. Is Maydaisy and the rest of the offshore clubs safe from the FSC? The banks are/were refusing to honour CP cheques. Can they refuse to do a wire transfer? How long is it taking these days for your referrals to get a response from Maydaisy? I referred a few friends THAT I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT…about two weeks ago and they are still waiting.
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Everyone please cease and desist and let cooler heads prevail. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, keep it cool. I know we are from hot bloodied people but we can all learn from each other. Although I do not post often, I read the blog sometimes more than I read my Bible. We are all here to protect our money and watch it grow.
I appreciate all comments both positive and negative and somewhere the truth will prevail.
Therefore could we all please!!!!!!!!!!! get back on track. Thanks everyone.
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Carol mind u own business and no ask mi nothing!
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Freedom of speech!!!!
I can say whatever i want to. Fi real fuzzy nah mess up di ting!!UNU NAH RUN MI WAY LIKE UNU DO DH!!!
Sheraig said,
January 22, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Now I’m back on track!!!
Charlibabe said,
January 22, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Check it out… early bird catches the most worms…….
http://www.minvestment.com/?r=Charlibabe
POSITIVE said,
January 22, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Guys the best thing to do is to say the things we hear whether it is negative or positive. The same thing happened with HW when some people use to talk, some ignored the comments and went right in and now regret that they went in.Keep sharing as that is what is good about this forum.HARD EARS PICKNIE DEAD A SUN HOT
Question said,
January 22, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Has anyone ACTUALLY made ACTUAL money with MinInvestment?
Does anyone ACTUALLY know anyone who ACTUALLY made any money?
GetRich... said,
January 22, 2008 at 4:23 pm
#514 anyone joining now is far from early.
Fancy D said,
January 22, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Is HW paying out?
DH said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:12 pm
People,
At this time ,the alternative investment client are very much tense as all clubs are under pressure because of the uncertainy in the air. So if you hear a rumors, find someone who can clear them up because things may not be as bad as it seem. And if it is, by the time you post it on the blog, the horse done gone through the gate. Remember nuff people a read the blog and therefore we have wolves among us sheep. And they want us(investors) all to fail
Peace
HD said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Based on these numbers in this Gleaner Article , It seems that investors in the so called alternative investment schemes have more power than they think.
Sir HD said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Based on these numbers in this Gleaner Article , It seems that investors in the so called alternative investment schemes have more power than they think.
DH said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Digicel normally has a booth at jazz and blues and it is said that they won’t be there because OLINT is the sponsoring the event.
Lets see if that is so.
peace
MADMAG said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:27 pm
DH,
Let me clear that up..Digicel has decided to sponsor other programms this year hence the reason they are not sponsoring Jazz NOT because of Olint.
Sharonette said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Come on people….don’t let us start sounding like some little kids that are cursing and swearing and cutting at each others throats….after all i dont think any of us are the enemy.
Nothing wrong with asking questions and there is equally nothing wrong with researching the issues, we all have access to the Internet so we can use it to search what is in the print and for everything else we can rely on this network we have created.
Let’s just show some amount of respect to each other….We may not know who we are talking to, but this is the world-wide-web it might just be your good friend who works at another company or lives in another country that u are talking to. Whoever it is, that does not give us the LICENSE to be disrespectful we need to CEASE and DESIST such behavior. Disagree but don’t ‘DIS’
I am sure this was not Andre’s intention when he started this blog so let’s not disappoint him.
****************So I will take the initiative to apologize***********
Comment I am sorry that Sheraig’s question was upsetting to you.
Sheraig I am sorry that Comment’s response was equally upsetting to you.
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Now with that settled we can get back to investments
HW said they will start paying out Feb 11, it ain’t february yet and i havent seen my account updated so my answer to 519 is no.
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Gleaner Editorial Today —Good Talk
http://www.jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20080122/cleisure/cleisure1.html
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Sharonette said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Sorry HD is after i finish writing and hit submit that i saw u giving the same link
Sir HD said,
January 22, 2008 at 5:42 pm
No problem Sharonette….One Love
AW said,
January 22, 2008 at 6:18 pm
HELL NOOOOO!!!!!!
Rich Kid said,
January 22, 2008 at 7:52 pm
#522 DH…………you are wrong. Digicel has been the major sponsor for the past few years and has decided not to do so this year……I guess they are giving other companies a chance to spend some big bucks
….way to go Olint!!!! Anyway the mobile companies don’t normally sponsor events that other mobile companies are sponsoring and C&W is a sponsor this year.
Peggy said,
January 22, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Can someone tell me how to go about funding minvestment account. Thanks
Peggy said,
January 22, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Who do you buy the gold from?
malika risk taker said,
January 22, 2008 at 10:52 pm
this blog is amazing.when i need any update it comes in handy. keep up the good work guys, especially patricia, always looking forward to reading your comments. i am encouraging alot of family and friends to join in the fight against these banks wgo are oppressing us. many of the joined in. Let these banks know WE ARE NOT IDIOTS we have been freed by educating ourselves we are no longer under their bondage, its our money we will look out for our own INTEREST.(interested being interpreted both ways).
DR said,
January 22, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Folks, as one of the long-time members of this blog…. Please share some love…the constant fighting cannn work…. Let’s have peace…If someone makes a comment let’s listen, if you believe – work with it….if not ….leave it alone.
I did hear that rumour too.. re:WW…I heard that they were migrating to Argentina…. I hope it’s not true….. They said they need at least until the end of the month to register…… anyway I pulled out two weeks ago…just to be safe…
I did hear rumours of C+ from as early as June, so I pulled out in October….Always heard that HW was NEVER to be trusted…so too SwissC…but then some people got through ok….
I don’t trust Minvestment at all….but guess what if it works…I will pull down over $8000 in July…..
If at first you don;t succed: then try again!
malika risk taker said,
January 22, 2008 at 11:01 pm
ncb is feeling the effect of us investors thus they are trying to mash up these schemes. let us not give in to their plan. we a go fight back. we are staying with these scheme (NOT CHANGING COURSE)
Kevin2 said,
January 22, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I don’t think NCB is feeling the effect as much as we would like. Guys there is a lot of talk here about NCB the oppressor. Please a beg yu stop the talking and start the action against them. Start moving your accounts in droves. Go to Scotia if you have to….anywhere right now but NCB.
And yes…please don’t get intimidated by the wealth of negative information out there on the clubs (at least the legit ones). Stay the cource and reap the rewards. We have been doing so for years now and we can do so for more years to come.
It is clear that the media is getting access to direct private emails from the clubs. The info is not coming from the blogs it is obviously direct. The media takes this info and then puts a negative spin on it. The media must really stop this now. It doesn’t benefit anyone. People lives and savings here are at stake. I can’t see how a club member can be benefitting from these clubs and then pass the correspondences to the media for them to report negatively on it. Why would such a club member do this as well??? Beats me.
Coreg said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:09 am
DR. So you are not with any of the clubs now< What about the “O” . Mr. Daisy.
You seem to be just flying solo!
David said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:12 am
# 509 could I get a MD referral from you. my e-mail is pork.chop10@hotmail.com THANKS
DR said,
January 23, 2008 at 5:24 am
Kevin2 I suspect that media people are apart of these clubs not for their interest, but in order to report.
Coreg, I am with Minvestment and another (private)….. intend to join another after the dust has settled.
This time I’ve decided to stay the course a bit longer then my usual self…. I hope to be able to make my first withdrawal after months, when I would have doubled.
Sheraig said,
January 23, 2008 at 7:27 am
Yes.. One of my friends at work says that he has afriend that has an inside link that called him and informed him that WW will be closing soon and told him to withdraw his money. I just put it out their just in case one of you guys may have an inside link to confirm same. Just trying to add my two cent. Dont have a dollar or two like Patricia or DR!!
Enlightened said,
January 23, 2008 at 9:53 am
Sheraig,
How good a contact do you have scale of 1 to 10
1= Grounds man
10=Chairman
but ill drop my two cents like DR i got the word about C+ from a insider in sept when they first started getting letters from the bank and i got out then… when i told some people they asked me what i just asked you.
but as for C+ there is another little item that is going to really bother the client and it’s been blowing around but the word from the same senior source (no longer with C+), is that cash plus really doesnt own alot of the new kingston property purchased. The chairman owns it legally people just lump the two together but if liquidation is required a court will see them as separate. I hope the restructuring goes well, and that they are effectively working on sorting out the problems as oppose to just talking.
Patricia said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:44 am
So Enlightened, what you are saying is that the Hilton is owned by CH himself and not by C+?…..If so, and C+’s liabilities are not guaranteed by CH himself, then under those “lenders” contracts, CH himself not liable, and in the event of a liquidation, nothing to come from the prized property.
Also DR, as one in the know, what’s really going on with the big O?…..they’re back in court t’row, but is it just the nasty covetous badminded entity messing around or are there other issues affecting them???,
As an informed one you would know. …even if you have to talk in code, tell us!!!!! I will put on my “read between the lines decoding spectacles”
itfp said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:53 am
Seems that MDaisy account in TCI is closed. I wonder what are their alternative
HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:12 am
itfp, any idea why MD account in TCI would have been closed ?
HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:13 am
In case the reason could affect any other club with operations there
Enlightened said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:14 am
Pat,
That is the word from good source and while everyone is focusing on the hilton that is not paid for there are other properties that are totally paid up that werent detailed in the financials and when the ownership is audited it will not say cash plus, even though the value formed a part of what they put out as assets. I hope in a worst case scenario the honorable thing is done so investors get back what is due to them.
RE post #541 is that a fact and if so where from. The word “Seems”… seems speculative… i havent heard a bad word yet about that club… except that its hard to get into, which might no even be a bad thing.
Rich Kid said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:37 am
#541 ITFP – I would love to know the credibility of your source of information, as I know of persons who have been getting payouts – as recent as 1 week ago.
Fancy D said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:38 am
RE: WW
I just called the head office at WW. Spoke to a rep and asked about the rumors of tem closing. She told me that was not true. As a matter of fact she says, we will be requiring a $5000 min deposit as of February 1st.
Kevin2 said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Where the hell do all these rumours come from???!!!!
We need to find the source(s)?
Charlibabe said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:11 pm
#529/#530
Log on to e-gold /e-bullion website.Creat an account and then follow the instructions on how to to fund your account.
Once you sign up u will need to wire your funds to the account number they provided.
http://www.minvestment.com/?r=Charlibabe
itfp said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:15 pm
# 545.. The source is directly with the TCI bank – My friend had his money returned twice and when we call the bank in TCI this was the reason provided.
Cleon said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm
#546 Fancy
I confirmed that as well fancy, I just spoke to my very good friend sister who works at WW and she said nothing like that. As a matter of fact she said that if anything was to happen, as an insider, she would ensure that a cheque for my friend (her sister) and I is prepared. But aside from that, she said all is well with them. So nothing to worry about “an to stop listen to di likkle ruma dem weh a guh roun”….
Hope this bit of news help those who are bummie and…..the faint hearted…..
itfp said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm
As for WW i myself called and was informed by one of the rep (Ms Appl….) that this is just a rumour. However the reps can say anything. Also I was informed that if you withdraw funds that reduces your balance to less than $1500 then your account will be closed. I will be trying to contact Noel today.
GetRich... said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Charlibabe are you able to get on the minvestment site? I just tried and got a bad gateway message. This is the same message cobextrade and opentrade gave recently before disappearing. Hope it returns. I know TB for example would be very pissed.
Cleon said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm
E-Bullion “tec weh dem self” from Minvestment…….so you wont be able to fund ur minvestment account via e-bullion
itfp said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:23 pm
As for WW i myself called and was informed by one of the rep (Ms Appl….) that this is just a rumour. However the reps can say anything. Also I was informed that if you withdraw funds that reduces your balance to less than $1500 then your account will be closed. I will be trying to contact Noel today.
Kevin2 said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:31 pm
It seems that the fakes are disappearing now. Only the legit will survive and remain.
Cleon said,
January 23, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Bwoy it look like Minvestment “tec we dem self” as well….LOL Gwaan hole di strong tho TB, I hope they will re-surface…..u jus have less than a week to go…..:)
G-Man said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:21 pm
It really does not look good where MINVESTMENT is concerned .
On the site that I have listed below it was ranked at # 1 for a very long time and if you check it now it as at # 30 and listed as not paying.
For those who are interested you can check out the website, go down to MINVESTMENT at RANK 30 and read the remarks.
http://www.hyipinvestment.com
Bless
Enlightened said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I just checked out the Minvestment website and its gone for real…
I hope this is temporary or TB corner dark
Fancy D said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:29 pm
You know I dont know why we as intelligent peeps must always follow up rumors when it is so easy to go to the source and get it right!!!! I dont know about you guys but its saves me alot of stress on the heart and ache in the head when I hear it from the horses mouth….and I dont blame these clubs for refusing re-entry when the current member withdraws because of rumors. Olint is doing just that and now WW wants more money for entry
Enlightened said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Fancy D, i agree with you…. we need to check the source… but dont knock the rumours.
Remember when cash plus cheques were coming back…. cash plus initially denied the rumours and the rumours were in fact true.
Remember when the rumour was out there that the bank accounts of cash plus were going to be close? In the business section of the gleaner nov 7 2007 the headline read “cash plus bank accounts not closed” the VP Chris Goldbourne called the rumours a “malicious Falsehood” perpetuated by vicious detractors, and he further said ” at present Cash plus enjoys a very good relationship with its banks”.
All those rumours were true and it wasnt all the empoyees that knew and some who did just lied and told people it was fine, but if you knew the people personally they would have given you the truth.
Dont knock the rumours just see where they come from and be careful.
blessed
Ps. I wount even bother detailing the fact that almost every negative “rumour” about HW is true.
DH said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm
The information that itfp is giving does not sound right, Because bank will not give out account information like that.
As for wire transfer being rejected, You may not have called(emailed) maydaisy to advise them of the transfer and also providing a source of funds if the amount is over $15000, before sending it to the bank. Otherwise the bank will reject it. A notice was sent to all members advising them of the procedure.
Peace
sammy said,
January 23, 2008 at 1:58 pm
hey does minvestment really work?
Basil said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:09 pm
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/moneymag_archive/2002/10/01/328637/index.htm
Charlibabe said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Minvestments seems to have disappered….
Sharonette said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Man, if minvestment gone off the radar TB you corner not dark, it ‘pitch black’, so near but so far just got real….For your sake and those who have funds there I just hope the server is down and will be back up in a few hours.
Patricia said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:20 pm
On the issue of rumours…they will all be around, and the Lord knows we are a rumour based society..we thrive on it. They are are however a constant reminder to keep your ears peeled, listen disspationately, ask questions and, seek verification from the persons/entities that be. Again, take things with a grain of salt, always remembering that many will tell you what they think you want to hear. After all, remember Bill Clinton, looked straight into the camera and said ” I did not have sexual relations”…with Monica Lewinsky
Some idlers spread rumours because they perversely think its funny, others have more sinister motives. When you hear the rumours, DONT PANIC, just check things out and reason rationally, and if all else fails go with your gut.
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:24 pm
UPDATE ON CASH PLUS
Cash Plus willing to be regulated
Wednesday, 23 January 2008
There is a major development on Wednesday afternoon surrounding the legal battle between Cash Plus Limited and the Financial Services Commission.
Attorneys representing Cash Plus disclosed that their client is prepared to enter into discussions with the regulatory agency with a view to applying to be registered.
Attorney Bert Samuels, who made the submission, indicated that while Cash Plus is willing to go that route they are unable to say what will be required due to Tuesday’s announcement by Finance Minister Audley Shaw concerning legislative changes for that sector.
The matter is still underway in the Supreme Court.
Dominik said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Hey Guys,
I don’t know if you saw my post from the last blog RE: Minvestment & HYIP’s. I reposted here because the old blog takes too long to load.
#1426
Dominik said,
January 7, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Hello Everyone,
I have not posted in a while, but in regards to A3 Union. I am pretty sure they are a scam. I had applied for the debit card several months ago and never received one. I also had signed up to be and LRP, but then things started to look very shady and i had posted in one of the previous blogs to be careful of investing with A3. I lost some money, but at least it was what i could afford to lose.
I had also invested in another HYIP called Euro Trade a while back. It was pretty similar to A3 Union, except A3 had “good customer service”. I lost a nickel with Euro Trade as well.
My personal advice would be to stay away from HYIP’s on talkgold, hyip.com, etc. 99% of them are scams. If your not “in and out” within the first 11 months, you can kiss that money goodbye (they are robbing Peter to pay Paul). Just take a look at how many days each HYIP has been monitored. You will rarely find one that has passed the 1 year / 365 day mark. Also, there seems to be a new “Top Dog” HYIP every other week on these various hyip montors.
When you really check it out the HYIP’s pay for advertising space on these HYIP Monitors ($50-$125 per month). Then after about 1-2 months you see them as one of the top rated or most recommended HYIP’s. Monitoring time will be around 30-60 days with a 5 of 5 rating. Then everyone starts investing.
I have been scammed enough by HYIP’s. Here’s some food for thought: Take a look at the blacklist/scam sections of any hyip monitor site. Most of them will have at least 10-20 pages of 50-100 scams sties (i am not exaggerating either). Type in “hyip monitor” in google and check out the first few monitor sites that pop up.
I am pretty sure that at least 1 of these HYIP’s is legit. When someone finds one, please let me know.
Oh, another dead give away of a hyip scam is the “Contact Us” link. If it only has an e-mail address or submit a ticket, keep your money in your account.
For now i am happy with LewFam. It still beats the banks!
This is just my 2 cents. I hope it helps to shed some light on the HYIP arena.
Patricia said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Charliebabe ..HELLLOOOOO??!!!, sorry I am not making light but aaww C”MON!!…
yea Sharonette, I hope the server is down, after all TB had so many new BFs lined up and waiting, and YOU KNOW, TB worked hard posted those links..thats just not right
…hope for the best I guess
HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Kevin 2, re #547,
If these are all in fact rumors it is easy for NCB and MLC to start them …. LOL =))
Sir HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Yup,
Minvestment is down….maybe temporarily….maybe forever.
Sir HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Pat re #566, Well Said !
Better to question, verify and challenge. Additionally, verify both in cyberspace (ie on the internet and the blogs) and outside of cyberspace (ie friends, relatives, associates, contacts, telephone, etc).
Fancy D said,
January 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hi Guys…I just got an email from HW…says that they are working to give payouts FEBRUARY 11th
Rich Kid said,
January 23, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Way to go HW……………I sincerely hope is true dem talking. All now people still a wait pon Swisscash – because everyday dem give a different date
AW said,
January 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Ok here is the link for MINVESTMENT
http://209.249.221.28/
OD said,
January 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Hi fellow bloggers, It has been some time since I have posted a comment. I have heard that date from HW some time ago. I wonder what is so significant about 2/11? I really have lost faith in them but I will hope for the best. On another note, I do agree that both the negatives and positives should be communicated on this blog. It is up to each individual what they do with the information. I have learnt so much since I first came on this blog. Keep it flowing!
Sir HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:14 pm
AW, I guess the question is what happened to their internet domain entry ? Did they take it down ?…did their registrar take it down ? Why ? they would not expect their clients to find them by IP address . I have 3 registered hosted domains for over 4 years and I have not seen a similar problem. On the flip side maybe they are using low cost unreliable hosting and they will be back up in a few hours
KMoney said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:22 pm
For the investor’s sake…lets hope so!!
Yardman said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Rich Kid,
I have a quick question for you. Please e mail me at
yardman26@gmail.com
Yardman said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Rich Kid,
I have a quick question for you on uploading to May Daisy. Please e mail me at
yardman26@gmail.com
Sharonette said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:44 pm
The prayers sent up for C+ seems to have gone up in droves…
That story that #568 posted from RJR , I heard that there was a stay of the ‘CEASE and DESIST’ order,so essentially they dont have to worry about paying out while not being able to accept new members or funds from existing members.
Bert and KD dont seem the type to CEASE and DESIST from pursing a case on their desk, so CH probably chose a good firm to represent them. (Well, he wouldn’t have had to take it to court if ‘T.T-Fin’ was representing him, MLC and FSC would have changed their minds the day before the hearings and things would have been settled out of court and things would have been back to normal, even if it took brute force
They will be applying for the license from FSC so they need more prayers……TB’s day of reckoning is tomorrow so let’s pray that minv..comes through for him too….Feb 11 dont reach yet but let’s pray for HW that they will live up to their words…..(There were suggestions in the Obsrver today that the gov’ knock heads with Dubai to find out about economic policies and the like…..makes you wonder if someone went in search of HW at Arab Emirates recently, hence the suggestion
Patricia said,
January 23, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Ja is missing a key ingredient that the UAE has, and plenty of it, the “moolah”, …also I guess while Peter John was visiting with daughter and the grands, he missed the deplorable living conditions of the invisible workforce(the Indians,Philipinos and Pakistanis) that has built what is now now magnificent Dubai.
AW said,
January 23, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Sir HD (#577)
Sorry, I dont have the answers to your questions. I have been trying to get them on live chat but havnt had any success
DR said,
January 23, 2008 at 7:58 pm
So CH, Bert & KD have decided to just go with the ‘flow’…… I guess Michael will re-instate thier accounts then…..ha h ah a
Right move, Carlos – - Get Registered…..payout money, get new clients etc….
Come back Max, follow Carlos….afterall you are both doing the same things…
(birds of a feather flock together)
GetRich... said,
January 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Minvestment is back. Keep your fingers crossed TB.
Cleon said,
January 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm
TB look like God is on your side…minvestment is back up
….share some a di money next week….
Newgirl said,
January 23, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I have been reading the blog for a while now and basically use it to keep up with the happenings back home. I am a part of Olint for over two years, Lewfam, for three years. I have a lot of confidence in them and will be staying the course. My question is, how do we get the word out to people to boycott NCB? I was in the process of opening a foreign exchange account with them but after they started acting like colonisers, I stopped. Please answer. How do we get the word out to boycott NCB, as a beginning. Sedn Mr Lee-Chin back to Canada.
Quicksilver Invesyment said,
January 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm
#270
Remember JMMB is not a commercial bank. They use NCB and RBTT as their bankers, but gwan switch same way. I closed my OMNI and invested in FX…
Kevin2 said,
January 23, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Newgirl.
I am with you 101%
Quicksilver Invesyment said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I wired funds to MD in TCI and BNS called me to say funds were returned because the TCI a/c is closed. I sent the wire on the 15th but MD put out announcement #1 on the 20th. I sent a query to c service…will update later.
Quicksilver Invesyment said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I spoke with a WW agent today. Future plans include applying a with holding tax on capital gains. But for argument sake, if withholding tax is an astronomical figure like 25% on 12% per month then that means we end up earning 9%. Still not a bad payout.
Sir HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Well, seems like minvestment just does not have reliable hosting since they are back up.
Sir HD said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:48 pm
New Girl ,
Re: # 587
MLC does not want to come back to Canada because his AIC funds are doing so poorly. So poorly that he is donating money up here like crazy just to save some taxes under charitable donations. Of course every time him donate him name have to go up against the donation…no concept of just donating or giving just for the sake of giving.
Quicksilver Investment said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Below are the F1 Investments rates earned by both the gold fund and the platinum fund in 2007.
Platinum Gold
January 2007 11.86%
February 2007 7.01%
March 2007 8.08%
April 2007 9.70%
May 2007 8.00% 10.18%
June 2007 9.01% 7.15%
July 2007 15.04% 9.64%
August 2007 12.69% 8.86%
September 2007 12.15% 10.59%
October 2007 12.35% 8.61%
November 2007 10.98% 5.77%
December 2007 10.07% 7.18%
Olint is still the trader of their gold fund plan. However, traders for the Platinum fund are not prepared to disclose their identities at this time. The company is owned by a group of Pilots. I believe they are the ones who trade the platinum fund themselves. Their Gold fund is on par with Lewfam returns [ http://www.lewfamclub.com/Performance.html ], although the latter paid out more in the last quarter of the year.
Quicksilver Investment said,
January 23, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Returns for Platinum start in May 2007 at 8.00% and Gold at 10.18%.
Quicksilver Investment said,
January 23, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Now compare all three alternative investments (MD,WW,O) to JMMB’s 5.43% annualized yield. Things that make you go…hmmmm. Not to mention more than half of your interest earned on a SaveSmart a/c goes to GCT,Withholding tax and mgmt. fees. My strategy is make money with the FX traders and then maybe I’ll give some to the traditional investments.
komgt said,
January 24, 2008 at 12:04 am
DH, Enlightened and the other skeptics, post #549 and #590 about MD is true.
If you don’t believe, the thing would be to verify for yourself. That’s what I did. Call the beneficiary bank and you will see. And yes these funds that ppl are taking about were sent after the 15th and before MD posted their message on the 20th. MD has not yet responded to queries on the issue. They have dealt with this one poorly if you ask me!
We need to be vigilant because the changes can come in an instant .. and we should also insist that ALL the alternative funds give a higher standard of customer service and not “stick our heads in the sand” Like the ostrich
DR said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:50 am
Which Is why the clubs all need to be registered…. Once they are registered, thier administrative problems would have to be fixed, or else they will CEASE & DESIST……..
OD said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:55 am
Komgt, I agree with you. We need to be vigilant more now than ever. Changes occur rapidly, therefore, we all need to keep our ears to the ground. I know that when the negatives come, we would rather not hear them, but if we dont listen how will we be able to take action. We really need to demand a higher level of customer service from the clubs. I am not a weak hearted investor – panic is never a part of my game and chances are, you will never see me running to pull my funds. If you are gonna be loosing sleep over your investments, then dont join these clubs!!
KMoney said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:08 am
DR (#598), OD (#599):
Totally agree. Keeping a keen eye and a positive perspective is imperative. We all have hopes and dreams, trying to get ahead and overcome the oppression. However, we have to expect the best and understand the worst.
The word investment means risk. It’s not for everybody. If you don’t like spice, don’t eat the Jerk!!
K.
DR said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:11 am
Taken from the Jazz/Blues supplement in today’s Observer:
***********************************************************
The Premier of Turks/Caicos and a contigent from that country will attend the Jazz Festival as special guests of Olint Founder David Smith. WOW
The Honourable Michael Missick, Premier of Turks was the guest speaker at the establishment of Olint Foundation – - he said the foundation had his complete support and the support of his government.
“People matter, good people matter and I am happy that this foundation has been established. We appreciate the efforts of David and Tracy(DS wife) and how greatly
they have contributed to the economy of Turks in the short time they have been there,” Mr Missick said.
He ended by saying that ‘Jamaica’a misfortune is indeed the good fortune of Turks/Caicos having gained these model citizens. We will not give them back but we can share them.’
Rich Kid said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:18 am
#597 komgt……………well whether MDs accounts are closed or not I can’t say but a co-worker of mine received a payout yesterday of US$8,000.00 – a request he made last week. As a matter of fact – he called them to intercept the payout because he did not need the funds again but the bearer was already on his way with the draft. Keep up the good work MD.
Rich Kid said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:21 am
Another thing – I agree that the Customer Service needs to be improved greatly.
KMoney said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:43 am
Interesting Article!!
Cash Plus concedes!!!!
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20080123T230000-0500_131757_OBS_CASH_PLUS_CONCEDES.asp
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:48 am
Okay so MD is making some changes and it has affected some clients or applicants here and there but not everyone is affected and they are NOT doing such a good job communicating or executing the changes. Sounds familiar.
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 10:04 am
I could be wrong but I am very optimistic about all the investment clubs, partnerships, and borrowers in Jamaica. Olint, WW, MD, Cash Plus etc. I am optimistic that the ones operating from outside will continue operating there, the ones that appear to be ponzi and whos business model is seemingly unsustainable will transform themselves, and I am optimistic that the Banks will come to terms and find some way to work with them or they (the clubs) will work around them, and eventually the FSC and tax man will be happy. However, things will not be the way they have always been and profits may be less than before. In addition not everyone will have access as before because the barriers to entry will be higher. In the mean time the constant squabbling and court proceedings and rumor mongering unfortunately will continue until they eventually wither down. ….God Bless
DR said,
January 24, 2008 at 11:41 am
Well said, Sir HD….. Life will continue in a smooth way, as all clubs should be registered hopefully by June, even the 2 Ponzi are going to get registered…..ha
Watch for Michael and Bill setting up thier own FOREX traders club…..That will be interesting……Don’t leave out KeithD at Haughton Avenue – - That’s where DavidS use to work…. they woo will FLY the gate.
Now Michael: This is the way you build a better Jamaica.
Everybody will be happy, The tax man, FSC, The banks getting the interest, and most importantly – - ME!
DR said,
January 24, 2008 at 11:42 am
Oh I forgot to mention: I will have a duty to my Creator: So even my tithes will be heavier…… My gifts to charity will be stronger……sounds good.
Coreg said,
January 24, 2008 at 12:20 pm
# 606Well Said Sir HD, Well Said!
# 608 DR. From one to the other I applaud you. Do you run private practice in Jamaica? I’m a Cardiologist living in the USA for the pass 10 years no Angioplasty strnts and echocardiogram today just the Jazz and blues, need a break from all those procedures, you know the drill. Hope we can meet up DR.
Have a blessed day.
Coreg said,
January 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm
***CORRECTION ****Stents
Sharonette said,
January 24, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Am I the only one that assumed DR was for DR’s initial and that he actually isnt a doctor?
Speak up DR……initials or title?
Anyway said,
January 24, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I heard SwissCash is back or it will be coming back in phases…anybody heard any such thing????
Rich Kid said,
January 24, 2008 at 1:34 pm
#612 – Anyway, Swisscash has been saying that and everyday they give a new date. I tink dem tek big people fi eediat………….I think they are dead.
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Ok here are my three points:
1)
I was in new kingston this morning 11:35 and the Olint office was crazy…. there were cars lining the road and going around the corner (it looks liked a luxury car show… but i digress). There were lots a people out side talking and it just looked bad… They really need to weed out these people that run on these institutions because it make the normal business difficult for others.
2)
). For all i know this could be another destabilising tactic… but that is really what the bank is saying ” the wire has returned because the receipient’s account has been closed”
The Closure of the MD account appears to be true or at least that is what the bank are saying (and yes apparently they can tell you why the wire was returned), if its not true then the bank is really pulling the wool over peoples eyes ( and this time it wasnt NCB
3)
RE post 612 i thought DR were initials as well but i thought it was fun the play upon the coincidence…. but it makes for a good question
DR are thoes initials or a title.
Dash said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:02 pm
#614
what do you mean by? (There were lots a people out side talking and it just looked bad…)
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Enlightened, were all these people trying to pull out of Olint ?, what was their main reason ?
FuryURI said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Hello # 614 Enlightened when you say allot of people were talking what were they saying? As Junior Gong Say’s people will always be who they are. I guess they were picking up there tickets for the jazz festival I am sure O has not given out all 000 free tickets to members.
” When you say it just looked bad” what do you mean. Bad for the club or bad for other people waiting .
Thanks
Curves said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I have a question. If someone has joined MD and they have not put money in the account as yet can they still refer me?
FuryURI said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Enlightened, were you at “O” office or just driving through. Allot of people will be there for different reasons. Did you have conversation with everyone in those cars lining the road and going around the corner or just a few people.
sammy said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:39 pm
hey i wanna find out if TB has received the money from Minvestment…..Please answer …have u known any one who has received such money from them…
is Minvestment really real
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I think TB is sitting back smoking a cigar and sipping some fine cognac now….haha
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I Was just about to go there but i had to drive past….
Imagine the usual picture of cash plus on tv and that is what you had….a congregation outside of the building and at the gate and across the road…
And what they were doing i didnt ask but i’ve been with them since before they were there and gone there enough times and i’ve never see that before… It looked like it would make for good 7 o’clock news headline “RUN ON OLINT”…. even if they were all there to pickup jazz and blues tickets
Rich Kid said,
January 24, 2008 at 2:59 pm
#618….Curves, the person has to have “cleared” funds in MD before they can act as a referral.
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Today made me relalise that a lot of people dont have the stomach for HYIP and some dont even really have confidence in DS they just want to make a quick buck and quit…
Remeber that the real measure of a man is not how he reacts in times of triumph, but how he reacts in the face of adversity.
blessing
kk said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:01 pm
hey people, why do u all feel Minvestement is not real ,i had collected 20,000 US 3 weeks ago..it does work…put in ur money as soon as possible…….
as for TB SHE MUST HAVE GOTTEN HER MONEY…WE ALL DO
Investment Tech said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:17 pm
kk
we need proof, u think we r just gonna take your word for it. and where were you all along.
Patricia said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I understand that there has been an unusually high requests for funds, and that coupled with the A-LEE-gator’s viciousness created quite a backlog. I am led to believe that whilst there was a steady flow of folks today, there were no altercations. Many pple who requested cheques were called to collect their cheques as of Wednesday. So I guess there’ll continue to be a flow over the next day or so, until the backlog has been cleared.
Enlightened you are so right…for those who cant take the heat …..get out/stay away from the kitchen!!!!.
Oh btw, I’s needs me some TB!!!! Where TB at????? My new BF.
DR u r next, Doctor or no Doctor.
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I tech you are perfectly right in all your assertions
kkk isnt going to lynch my money that easy…. im going to put up a fight.
Please stop promoting known scams …
Patricia said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Inestment Tech, kk was probaly InDeRiver or PonDeBank, lurking
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:26 pm
But in case im wrong …. TB remember sharing is believing
Marsha said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:41 pm
#611 Sharonette
It’s not just a screen name; it’s a real TITLE! Go back and read previous comments posted by DR. You also have to read between the lines because DR has a way of posting/writing in codes
:-)
DR…please correct us if we are wrong! Be Blessed!!!
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:42 pm
KK….I collected 20,000 last week too….
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:44 pm
TB….where are you ?…..are you at the dealership already
Marsha said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm
TB…when you get your payout from MINI…please come back to the blog and post and let us know:-)
Also, we need proof such as a screen shot of your bank statement or a screen shot of your e-bullion account, you can wipe out any pertinent details!!
Good luck to you…
sammy said,
January 24, 2008 at 3:54 pm
oh thanks u have answered my quetion…..now i see that Minvestment really works… i am going to wire my 1000US tomorrow
GetRich... said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I think someone mentioned Dubai. Check out the site below.
http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/dubaiaerials&page=all
Sharonette said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Marsha…it is my reading between the lines that gave me the hint that he is not a doctor….i think i know which field he is in too
Sammy,
Wait until the weekend when TB tells us of his success at least we sure he has been in it for some months now. Hopefully you will be an early bird
Kevin2 said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I think kk is TB
How did kk know TB is a she?
Anyway said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Any info on SwissCash ??? I really not trying to lose my US$20K
Ian said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I found this… http://jamaicainvestmentwatch.com/
sammy said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:25 pm
has TB DITCHED us…is Mini a scam….or are they tryig to trick us
Enlightened said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Will you all lay of TB till Monday…. remember this:
TB said,
January 20, 2008 at 8:16 am
Hey Cleon and NM I have 5 more days to go . Will let you know how it goes. Smile.
BUT COME MONDAY WEEK WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT GO…. im hoping the best for you still because you definately braver than me stare fraud directly in the eye… then hold it’s hand…. prove us all wrong… but let us know if we were right, so at least the word gets out there.
shay said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:29 pm
i’m a jamaican living in the new york area. i have no family in any of these club and i’m wondering how someone like myself can get involve in maydaisy, worldwise, olint, lewfam?
and has anyone heard of kean exchange.
jamnation_ja@yahoo.com
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Kevin2, good question, I wondered also.
Patricia said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Wait just a minute…TB IS A GIIIRRLL????, OH darn it!
kk said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:40 pm
hey …. i dont know Tb…I JUST ENTERED this blog…al i know is that i hav been in Mini and i got the money…the only problem Min has is that u cant contact by phone directly………. but its all real.
Criss said,
January 24, 2008 at 4:44 pm
dont follow those people ,how can u get money from somewhere u cant contact. listen its a scam…a big scam…inteligent people just figure it out. what is the proof…just give us the proof….all those people who say they get money just wants other people to loose there money……we r humans stop tricking us
Rich Kid said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Criss are you ok? Calm down sweetie.
FW said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:18 pm
WW’s customer service sucks!!! I have been trying to contact them via phone for 2 days now and the lines are always busy. I also sent several emails and no response. A few people stated that they got through to them. What # did you guys call?? This is not a good sign. I must say that F1 has the best customer service. They respond quickly to emails and someone always pick up the phone. WW needs to do better.
DH said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:23 pm
yow! yow!! yow!!!! the whola the club them a crash!!!!!!, run go draw out you money run!!!!!! Run!!!!!!!!!!!
Fancy D said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:30 pm
You Guys REALLY need to stop….you are turning this board into a big ass JOKE!!!!!! Have you ever been in a classroom where there are some kids who are actually there to LEARN and others whose head so tuff dem CAAN learn so dem just come to be the class CLOWN….this is what dis sounds like. This board was not like this when I first came here. GROW UP!!!!
There is not a damn thing wrong with WW phones at the present. I was able to get through to them yesterday and I dont even live in JA. It took me 42 seconds to get a LIVE REP on the phone, same with everytime I call ARGENTINA …..yes HW or Emile personal cell phone, and F1.
shay said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:34 pm
well i’m learning but still can’t seem to get a referral to ww.
Charlibabe said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm
KK.
what did use to fund ur minvestemnt account e gold,e bullion or liberty reserve?????
Does any know how to fund e-gold????? HELP!!
Patricia said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Shay you dont need a referral to WW
Fancy D said,
January 24, 2008 at 5:56 pm
WOW….Charlibabe……..I just asked E-Gold that same question in inquiry…if I get an answer I sure will let you know….in the meantime…anyone here can help by answering that one???
shay said,
January 24, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Patricia, i’m in new jersey. How do i get into may daisy?
KMoney said,
January 24, 2008 at 6:30 pm
DH (#650)
Whats up with that DH???
InDeRiver said,
January 24, 2008 at 6:54 pm
anybody ever heard of this club
InDeRiver said,
January 24, 2008 at 6:56 pm
http://www.kiuionline.com/
shay just like all others you have to be given a referal by a member ,exceptWW
InDeRiver said,
January 24, 2008 at 7:00 pm
shay,
I think that you must have a yard address to be a member, I heard
InDeRiver said,
January 24, 2008 at 7:02 pm
If someone gives you a referal does that make you a referee !
AW said,
January 24, 2008 at 7:33 pm
InDeRiver #659 Very interesting site (www.kiuionline.com) I see that the Godfrey McAllister is the president/CEO.
ALL THE BEST said,
January 24, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Hello Everyone I must say it was a pleasure posting but there comes a time in ones life that you have to leave all the fussing and fighting behind. When this blog started early 2007 it was something to look forward too, now it’s just trash talk by new comers, haters, profilers, name switchers, back biters and the last but not least the one who want you to panic.
Andre here is a few suggestions.
1. I think this should be the last of this blog in the next couple of weeks.
2. Let it become a member’s only blog. I ‘am wiling to the $5.99USD a month access
3. Don’t allow anyone to change his or her names once registered this has resulted in many impersonators
OD said,
January 24, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I am a bit confused. On another page “Cash Plus the poor peoples Messiah”? in November, I had asked TB if he knew of anyone who had suprassed the 150 days with minvestment. On November 10 he said that he had reached 102 days, on November 18 he said he had reached 107 days, on January 20 he said he had 5 more days to go. Based on my calculation it seems that he should be at 170+ days. Can someone shed some light? Maybe weekends are not included.
Fancy D said,
January 24, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Or maybe he is just fulla SHIIT!!!
Paige said,
January 24, 2008 at 8:29 pm
K Money
I believe DH was making a point that needed to be made. For the last couple of weeks what I have been getting from this blog is sheer panic. I think some of us on this blog just need to man up(toughen up) and have faith.
Paige said,
January 24, 2008 at 8:31 pm
OD
From my understanding it’s 150 business days. so yes weekend days are not included in the Minvestment.
Observer said,
January 24, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Does anyone have info on GOLDEN PURSE HYIP ?
InDeRiver said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:00 pm
AW,
is he of good character ,clean hands pure heart kinda guy ?
KMoney said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Paige (#666) -”Triple SIX” WOW!!
By all means Paige…MAN UP OR STAND DOWN!! It was just the way it was said.
Cool beans.
Anyway said,
January 24, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Can someone tellme about http://www.kiuionline.com (I really cant bother to go read for myself)
Observer said,
January 24, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Which is better to work with e-bullion or e-gold?
Sir HD said,
January 24, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Not sure if anyone saw this Article in the Jamaica Gleaner . They were actually plugging Forex trading.
Observer (formerly TheOne) said,
January 24, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Hoping for answers to my questions. Thanks
Fancy D said,
January 24, 2008 at 11:11 pm
#671
Anyway in answer to your question…there isnt much to read on KINGDOM COME LOL….LOL…..LOL!!!!!
The website like the start is a TOTAL SCAM….Better yet let the person who told you about them give you a password and user name to their site…thats what the site says…its members only. Boy, I am laughing so hard right now. Everybody is trying a ting these days….lol
shay said,
January 24, 2008 at 11:47 pm
For those who enjoy light reading. I wish olint was accepting new members again.
http://livinginbarbados.blogspot.com/2007/12/investment-club-debate.html
Anthony said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:29 am
I really do not want to discourage anyone from gambling the Min horse, but don,t you think putting in a bet now would be a little late as the odds are longer at this time. The way I see it if it is a scam then all they got to do is pay a few who will then spread the word and cause a ton load of new investors to come running and as soon as the time is right they lock shop. The way I been hearing Min it now reminds me of Swiss Cash and where are they now.
For all who are collecting now you bought the horse at the right time but it still does prove that Min is not a scam.
I could be wrong though. There is a saying better late than never but I really do not think it works that way for the scams.
Anthony said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:34 am
Correction…… does not prove
JANSAW said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:43 am
FO REAL…..I REMEMBERED WHEN THIS BLOG WAS A WEALTH OF VILID, VALUABLE AND MOUTH WATERING WEALTH CREATION INFORMATION…..BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS FULL OF TOO MUCH JOKE…
THIS WAS STARTED FOR A GOOD REASON LESTS TRY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY
Anthony said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:44 am
I really would not want to discourage the gamblers who realize it is a long shot.
For all newcomers to the game play a safe hand if you want to last, spread your portfolio.
DW said,
January 25, 2008 at 1:13 am
This Blog has become non-informative and very speculative,thank you Andre for creating this forum,I Believe the time has come for me to move on. Nuff Respect to…Patricia,DR(the doctor),Anthony,SirHD,Investment tech,MoneyChimp,Enlightened,Paige,FancyD,Sharonette,Oneil,JSM,JK,MsC Skeem,and to Everyone else that I havent listed THANKS for sharing.
Sue Sue said,
January 25, 2008 at 3:54 am
#672
E-Boullion is much more user friendly than E-Gold.
Patricia said,
January 25, 2008 at 7:06 am
From today’s Observer
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20080124T200000-0500_131788_OBS_HOTSHOT_TRADERS_.asp
SAVINGS said,
January 25, 2008 at 7:50 am
Patricia beautiful find in the Observer: I guess “OLINT” Will even be getting more recognition now and the other two traders. David Smith is truly a Great Person. So I guess this will settle some nerves now That OLINT is for people who are serious about making money.
Listen up Bloggers who are in the real clubs, like OLINT,WW, MD, they don’t need your money it’s a blessing that they continue to trade funds for you these guys are all Hight Net worth individuals $150,000.000.00 million US and more in there Bank accounts, private planes, boats etc. So give the clubs and there founders a little slack once in a while. They are humans also and deserve a break once in a while.
Investment Tech said,
January 25, 2008 at 7:54 am
TB you have 1 day left but you are only going to be getting back your principal since you didnt compound. pitty you didnt roll a $1000. let us know if your principal is released on monday.
In the other blog TB actually said in november that he or she had gone 107 days so he or she is actually right on point for the 150 business days.
Investment Tech said,
January 25, 2008 at 8:01 am
DW dont be too quick to leave yet. Information is still flowing, jus avoid the non informative comments.
Patricia said,
January 25, 2008 at 8:45 am
GOOD MORNING ALL…..I agree that far too often we descend into very pedestrian type behaviour. There is nothing wrong however with clowning around every now and then, humour is a healthy and essential part of life.
However, when we lash out irrationally in personal attacks on other posters that is just unacceptable. Everyone’s opinion/suggestion/question is valuable…as I’ve said b/4 whilst I dont suffer fools gladly, I have learnt the value of tolerance….w/out that we can have no meaningful dialoque.
This Board has lost some very valuable contributors, like AJ, JSM, J’can, Poor Risk Taker, VSM, and many others…maybe they have changed their names, maybe they read but dont post…but its our differences in experiences, insights and perceptions that make this flow so dynamic.
Let’s move on and try to continue to the real sharing…we as J’cans are unique in how far across the globe we have been disbursed, and through this medium we can connect and put things on one communal table..that’s so powerful….think about it.
Peace
P.
Curves said,
January 25, 2008 at 8:47 am
TB can you please link me curvycurves1b@gmail.com
Thanks
Charlibabe said,
January 25, 2008 at 9:31 am
no help on e-gold guys???
Patricia said,
January 25, 2008 at 9:44 am
In the interest of long term diversification and growth
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestfunds/2008/actively.html
Scroll down and take a look at the Foreign Growth Funds…
any f/back anyone???
Cleon said,
January 25, 2008 at 10:04 am
Investment Tech
It probably might be aroun next friday before TB can tell us anything concrete, remember that monday 21th was an holiday so Min didnt give any interest on that day…and I think it will take a day or two after the withdrawal request is made before they honor the request ie transfer your withdarwal amount back to your e-bullion / gold account.. so it might take just a little while longer than we had hoped…
Peace and love (by the way Fancy D, I love ur vibes….:) Just love ur positive vibes…..
Sir HD said,
January 25, 2008 at 10:17 am
Patricia, good links ! I like the “T. Rowe Price New Era” and “T. Rowe Price Emerging Markets Stock”….T. Rowe Price is THE Man/Woman…wonder if they trade Forex….probably have something hidden in the back of the house for the Fat Cats.
AD' said,
January 25, 2008 at 10:33 am
Hello Sir HD,
So is you were investing in the “T. Rowe Price which would it be? Is it a good time to get into these funds?
Thanks much you and pat are always on the ball.
AD' said,
January 25, 2008 at 10:34 am
if not is typo:-(
Sir HD said,
January 25, 2008 at 10:39 am
Ad, I honestly could not give you any advice on this as I have not done any research. I have not decided whether I would be investing in these funds but if I were I would call them up to get some details and start doing some research into the stocks that make up these funds and the detailed history of the funds themselves.
Patricia said,
January 25, 2008 at 11:31 am
AD, you’re back…where have you been??!!
Fancy D said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:05 pm
#691
Respect CLEON!!
DR said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Hi you all.. nice to know I was missed. I was in Montego Bay last night…at the Jazz Festival… Of course I had to visit the Worldwise Booth…(Miss Universe)…hot girls were there…..damn.!
I passed by Olint TCI booth…. DS is at another level…..(his booth was super)
Captian’s Burrell helicopter was there….only US$850 per hour…..
No I don’t remember seeing a booth from Michael or Bill……hmmm
Sypro Gyra and Anita Baker were the HITS for the night…. Sorry you all were not there.
Anyway I am not a doctor…..DR is just my initials…..
DR said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Shay:,
Yes I have heard of Keen Exchange….as a matter of fact, it is one of the EXCLUSIVES that I want to join…..registered off-shore…pays 20%
mrs C said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:19 pm
hey guys i haven’t posted in a while but im still here. after numerous trips in to kingston i got my cheque from WW. It has been cleared so im good to go. (didn’t close my account) Got a call from CASHPLUS asking me for permission to rollover my money till april. The funny thing is she told me i had no choice. so i didn’t see the point of the phone call.
Fancy D said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:22 pm
DR ….what is Keen all about….how do I get a referral…any website? Fancyface2077@aol.com
Lamahun said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Is anyone aware of Valentino Fund?
DR said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 pm
KeenEXch – - I think has a website, but you cannot get in without a username/password…. very EXCLUSIVE…. minimum $5000…yes, you need a referral…. I am NOT a member – - but hope to join after the dust has settled….
Sir HD said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:40 pm
DR, How can you just come and make a comment like that about the girls. Thats not right. Where are the pictures ? You must have taken a digital camera or cell phone with you.
KMoney said,
January 25, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Lamahun (#702)
No I have not heard about Valentino Fund. Please elaborate.
Sharonette said,
January 25, 2008 at 1:03 pm
You see Marsha, I told you he wasn’t a doctor….DR…i know i know you….not to talk to but I got my eyes on you
Unlike Sir HD, I dont really want to see the girls pictures what i want to know is if MD didnt have a booth there?
Rich Kid said,
January 25, 2008 at 1:43 pm
#706…..MD is not caught up in the hype…….she is just doing her own and keeping as low keyed as possible. DR I heard the show was fabulous and I hope that “The Boss” will deliver tomorrow night. BTW….I hear there is a website where you can watch the show – does anybody know the link?
Lamahun said,
January 25, 2008 at 1:55 pm
check out http://www.valentinofund.com …a whopping 15% daily. Is that for real?
MoneyChimp said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Guys these HYIP do not work!!! I cannot stress this enough.
Rich Kid said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:10 pm
#709……I agree Moneychimp – swisscash should have been a big example to everyone but if people want to take the risk – don’t stress them out.
Skeem said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Facts on PLCA and Cash Plus
http://jamaicaobserver.com/letters/html/20080123T190000-0500_131716_OBS_FACTS_ON_PLCA_AND_CASH_PLUS.asp
KMoney said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:34 pm
#708…
Its a scam bro!!!
lw said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Can someone send me a referral for KeenXchange??
Criss said,
January 25, 2008 at 2:43 pm
i heard someone collected Minivestment …but there is no proof…..how do we know that person isnt telling a lie
Lamahun said,
January 25, 2008 at 3:06 pm
714. yeah, how do we know?
Criss said,
January 25, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Sir HD
did you really collect 20,000 for real….be honest now, this is not a joke
HD said,
January 25, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Criss, I was only joking, the point was that anyone could have said the same.
Anthony said,
January 25, 2008 at 4:25 pm
After all the rush the other day at wwise it really seems that things are settling down and the funny thing is they really make it so easy for people to close there accounts. I followed a friend there today and she closed so easily and went and cashed her check without any fuss at all. All they did was take their 1% penalty and the equivalent for $2000 Jamaican and sent her on her merry way.
This info is for all who cant take the heat get out of the kitchen so we the real soldiers can get back to the financial battlefield.
All who were looking for an increase in interest I was told this has taken a back seat as licensing with the FSC is priority at this time.It appears that they are discussing withholding the tax but is yet to finalize. There are new things to be introduced on the 28th.
Sir HD said,
January 25, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Anthony,
Thanks for that bit of info. Well appreciated.
I had some concerns myself because they were not responding as quickly to emails as before and I called them ealier this week. After talking with the young lady on the phone I felt that everything was going to be okay.
Just to add also that I got through to them very quickly on the telephone and all indications were that they planned to be around for a long time. The only change she mentioned to me though was the 5000 minimum.
I also spoke to some friends outside of cyberspace and they all felt that there shouldn’t be any problems with them.
I am expecting some of my profit to be wired to me this month just like I had planned from the outset so I will see what happens with that.
DR said,
January 26, 2008 at 11:25 am
testing
Anthony said,
January 26, 2008 at 11:27 am
Sir HD
I could be wrong but I feel they’re going to weather the storm quite easier than any other club out there at this time. I base this on the point of them being very proactive. I also notice that they handle competition well (look how they cut into the market share of cashp ) New comers to cashp who got caught flat footed you might not know this but their liquidity was mopped up by wwise and that is when it all started to go bad for cashp. They were then forced to offer ridiculous rates. I now wonder how is it that the same people who use to say 10% is impossible opted for 12% to 18% and the only answer I can arrive at is their need was definitely greater than mine.
In future I implore us all to read between the lines as the more gullible we are to higher rates, the more we will get them. If you still decide to attend the party then try to be early or we might only be left with the fat lady singing.
In my opinion the more money we make is the more inclined we should be towards lower rates. I think I once posted that we are now in a viable market which makes it easy to make the money but hard to keep it. Let us not allow greed to over shadow our ambitions.
Unlike DR I am still a member of cashp (hoping for the best) wwise and one other.
Fancy D said,
January 26, 2008 at 11:45 am
What happen everybody??????
Anthony said,
January 26, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I guess they are all sleeping after the Jazz festival.
DR said,
January 26, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Anthony, They are sleeping after OLINT’s Jazz festival……. Oh, Michael & Bill hates that name….. by the way I saw a senior JLP politician entering the Olint Booth on Thursday night…. He was at the Olint Foundation Launch some time ago….
Anthony, I pray for you..All the best in April 08 – - hope you get your money out of C+: hopefully they will get a refund from Draxx Hall & Hilton, so that they can pay some people/some money.
Anthony said,
January 26, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Thank you DR
I give thanks for small mercies it could be worst.I really want cashp to get in gear not for myself so much but for so many who blindfolded themselves and plunged in.
Only a small fraction of what I have made is with the cashp. Like you I saw the predicament and actually could have left the game but honestly I felt loyalty creeping in and as a result left something in the kitty just hoping they would survive.
You see being a member since 2005 they been good to me.
Marsha said,
January 26, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Sharonette – You were right:-) DR….thanks for clarifying.
Skeem said,
January 26, 2008 at 10:47 pm
http://sterlingassets.wordpress.com/offshore-banking/
Piggy said,
January 26, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Hi Guys,
it’s very good feeling knowing that this type of commraderie still exists among ’strangers’ (although we now have a common bond
and I just felt I had to say thanks to all the contributors who have offered their time and knowledge freely for the benefit of others including myself.
I’ve been a fan of this forum for quite a while now and I have to admit that taking the few hours it took to read all the posts on my inital visit was the best investment of my time I’ve made in quite a while
DG said,
January 27, 2008 at 3:12 am
Greetings,
I have not seen anything from Cash Plus in the Sunday Gleaner. Has anyone seen anything in the other papers?
DG said,
January 27, 2008 at 3:13 am
There is full page ad on the back page of the Sports Section in the Sunday Gleaner. Could it be that the FSC will now be going after Worldwise?
Fyier said,
January 27, 2008 at 7:33 am
#690 Patricia : From the list you posted I have Dodge and Cox International Fund. Most of these funds you need a minimum of $2500 or so to start. For those in Jamaica your application can be done on-line but you may need to send a copy of your passport.
Patricia said,
January 27, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Thanks Fyier….I’m trying to gather f/back on various funds, particular those with an emerging markets/Asia focus…..came across this T Rowe Price Asia fund…..What do you guys think????
http://quicktake.morningstar.com/FundNet/TotalReturns.aspx?Country=USA&Symbol=PRASX
Vela Invest said,
January 27, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Get your free E-book:
http://www.forex.com/dummies.html
If you have a problem downloading the e-book I can e-mail it to you!!
specs said,
January 27, 2008 at 3:51 pm
does any know if there is a fx club in toronto
Skeem said,
January 27, 2008 at 3:53 pm
(ok, I jus realised that that wasnt from todays Herald…they seem to be a bi behind with the news)
Patricia said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Specs, I have heard of one called Prosporex.
Patricia said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:06 pm
There were some posts back in Nov, (I think) on that.
specs said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:39 pm
thanks i will go back and read the post .
Comment said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Testing testing
Comment said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:41 pm
DR. /Patricia or any other
Any Knows what happened regarding the injunction on Olint /NCB that had expired on January 24, 2008.
FT said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Specs here is the website
http://prosporex.com/
FT said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Oops it seems as if that website is not working. But I was told they are up and running and ppl are getting their returns
NM said,
January 27, 2008 at 8:52 pm
TB, we are all waiting to see proof of your minvestment withdrawal. You think, you getting away with this one? I think you are kk too. dont try to scan us, it does not worth it. show us proof. stand by your word.
Paige said,
January 27, 2008 at 9:33 pm
So guys
Seems like Valentinofund has disappeared. Did anyone here join?
LN said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:07 am
Minvestment in trouble?
e-Bullion asks Minvestment to cease incoming and outgoing transfers
http://www.siliconcaribe.com/2…..transfers/
“Against e-Bullion instructions, Minvestment continued to create new bogus accounts in order to accept more funds from Minvestment investors. This is why for almost a week, random new accounts with various names would appear on the ATIP deposit screen for MInvestment.”
Read the full article at the link above.
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:46 am
For those who don’t already know it…minvestment along with most of the other internet HYIP’s are highly likely to be scams. Some of us already know and are taking the chance anyway based on what you can afford to lose so this is just for the unwary. Also note that I used the word most and not all.
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 9:42 am
clarify…I am not among the daredevils investing in minvestment.
Dominik said,
January 28, 2008 at 9:50 am
Hey Everyone,
Please see my post #568. I would really recommend staying away from the HYIP arena. HYIP’s are just a money game. All they do is shuffle the money around until they can’t pay people anymore, then they disappear (Robbing Peter to pay Paul). Usually see or hear that they are under heavy DDos attacks. Then the site shuts down for a day or two, then comes back online, then POOF! there gone.
This is just my opinion, but i have been scammed by HYIP’s before and can spot the ones that are scams a mile away.
Dom
Sharonette said,
January 28, 2008 at 10:11 am
Good Article LN…hoping TB comes out of this one unscathed
Enlightened said,
January 28, 2008 at 10:35 am
I agree with Sharonette…. good article LN…..
It sheds some light on Minvestment from an official insider… and note that the term “bogus” was used and it clearly stated that this was done so as to contine to take investors money.\
The question that is left to be asked now is with this new revalation, how will person be able to cash out. And with no office to “run on” who will the investors turn to in the even of a failure to pay?
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 10:42 am
The other risk associated with the ones that are scams is that they will use your information through identity theft to implement other scams and/or try to hack into your computer by capturing information through your web browser when you visit their site to try to steal your banking information.
GetRich... said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Anyone able to get through to the local Maydaisy number?
Ian said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:36 pm
New WW site up…can’t seem to login thought…
Ian said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:37 pm
*though
No Name said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:47 pm
#752
Hi GetRich, I have been able to get through. I just called them this morning as a matter of fact..
Investment Tech said,
January 28, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Intersting new WW website it doesnt seem to be finished yet though. I wonder if this is a sign of stability.
ensley said,
January 28, 2008 at 3:05 pm
whats the local maydaidy number please?
DH said,
January 28, 2008 at 3:22 pm
It is possible to trace landline number to a person and address, so please do not post on this blog. Remember the wolves are looking
Peace
PostDiNumber said,
January 28, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I would just like to say hi, my name is PostDiNumber
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 28, 2008 at 3:47 pm
MAY DAISY PHONE NUMBER
Rich Kid & No Name, please e mail May Daisy phone numbers. I have sent two wires, which has returned to my bank in NY. In addition, there has been no response from the four new e mail addresses, that is on the main page.
yardman26@gmail.com
Investment Tech said,
January 28, 2008 at 3:57 pm
MD local numbers are 927 7778 or 927 4421 No harm!
DR said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm
DO not…. DO NOT do that INVESTMENT TECH.//…. numbers can be traced…..
Please DO NOT DO THAT! PLEASE..!
Do not post the telephone number for any club on this site
DR said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:04 pm
By the way I called those numbers and got the POLICE DEPT…..oh boy….
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Investment Tech
Please e mail the correct numbers if you have them. Thanks.
911 said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:09 pm
That was funny DR. and Investment Tech! Some please call 911
How would someone that is investing in MD don’t have there numbers, they are working blind,they are fishing without line.
I hope they are real members and not just Imposers.
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Investment Tech,
If you were to pull that stunt in the United States, you would be in very serious trouble. It would be more than a misdemeanor offence.
Investment Tech said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Sorry folks it seems that i dont have the numbers. try tracing those numbers opperssors
Investment Tech said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:16 pm
gues wat yardman this is jamdown. so go tell the FBI
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:17 pm
911,
Nobody is fishing blind. I was referred by a friend in Minnesota,
and the wires were sent via a NY Bank to TCI. In addition, May Daisy has NO PHONE NUMBERS on their website, they only have 4 new e mail addresses, which no one is responding to.
911 said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Well Yard man i would suggest that your friend that referred you in Minnesota should be able to contact them for you. We all have to be cautious here. Just ask your friend I ‘am sure if you are getting paid them you should have contact.
911 said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Correction ^^ then not them^^
DR said,
January 28, 2008 at 4:54 pm
It’s best after sending an email to the MD office, that you wait on their reply before you sent a wire…… they will instruct you on sending wires.
Lambert said,
January 28, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Could someone tell me if Minvestment is still Good. I have money in there for long term. I hope it is still going strong. Thank you for your advice.
By the way my lewfam is up to date
Lambert said,
January 28, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Quick silver 594. Can you explain who is F1 Gold and Platinum. is that MD. Or is it another plan called F1 you are talking about. Thank you
Yardman said,
January 28, 2008 at 6:26 pm
DR & 911,
I have sent three e mails to MD from Jan, 17, after the wires returned, and they have not responded. MD’s new instructions for wiring was posted on Jan 20. My contact in MN, do not have a number, and that is why I was asking in this forum. I understand your concern, for extreme caution, in releasing sensitive information on this website, and that is why I had sent my e mail address initially. PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR, kindly contact MD, and ask them to post the relevant phone numbers for Customer Care on their main page, and also to update the new A/C # for wiring instructions, for e- partner funding as the old account has been closed. THANKS, and good luck with your investing.
BLESSINGS
911 said,
January 28, 2008 at 6:36 pm
#773
Lambert please read post 745. That should give you an answer to your question.
Lambert said,
January 28, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Sir HD 632 and kk 625 did you do 30 day or 150 day for min
I have my money in for long term. please reply on blog or email me at
lambertquartey@yahoo.com
deuce said,
January 28, 2008 at 7:28 pm
hey Investment Tech is f1 an affiliate of big O
Lambert said,
January 28, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Dominik 748
Is P2P a scam
http://www.pathway-2-prosperity.net
Investment Tech said,
January 28, 2008 at 7:38 pm
deuce
Yea from my sources, i hear f1 has one of there account with O not sure if it is the gold or platinum
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Lambert #777…..I am NOT invested in minvestment….it was just a joke when I said got 20,000 from them.
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Bluebird…..you will need a laptop for sure….forget what I said about “or PC”…I am on pipsnipers now and cooking some white rice to go with some stew peas and demo trading with my laptop in the kitchen.
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:35 pm
wrong link
Patricia said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Dang, HD..you cooking stew peas…you couldn’t call me???
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm
stew pease cook already…just need some white rice….sorry Patricia you done know how a brother love him stew peas and rice.
HD said,
January 28, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Something else to consider, it has been brought up before ::
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080128/cleisure/cleisure3.html
ForexGuy said,
January 29, 2008 at 2:40 am
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone is investing with F1 Investments, and if they feel that the company is solid. I know that they are investing through OLINT for their gold plan, but does that mean that they are as solid as OLINT? Also, does anyone know who the real owners/traders are? It might be silly, but I would feel much more secure if I knew who the actual owners were.
Thanks for the help
ForexGuy said,
January 29, 2008 at 2:44 am
p.s. F1 has the FASTEST customer service ever. I sent them an email at 8pm and I got a response within a couple of hours!
Still looking forward to hearing from actual members though.
Thanks
GetRich... said,
January 29, 2008 at 5:08 am
#779 I have been a member for three months now. So many excuses have popped up during these three months. Payouts are now lagging again for somewhat valid reasons but I think the smart thing to do is to withdraw my principal and most of the interest gained. I made my withdrawal request yesterday and am hoping to get it. Left a little less than my initial deposit just in case this program still goes on for another 6 months or so. A MasterCard debit card has been “coming very very soon for the last 4 months” LOL. The latest in this soap opera is that they have temporarily disabled withdrawal request and support tickets so that they can catch up on all withdrawal request that are still outstanding. I was just wondering why they didn’t disable deposits too since the automatic deposits regularly fail and they have to go through and manuallly add them. Isn’t that more work which would slow down the catching up? Hmmm??? I can give you all the details if you are interested in joining but as usual only risk what you can afford to lose.
DR said,
January 29, 2008 at 8:06 am
come on Dianna: Are you working for Michael & Bill: You were trying to sing in the dark? – - WHAT! – - – Lady Ross – - – what happen you had to lip-sync?
Please don’t try that again at another Olint’s Jazz Festival….as a matter of fact: We are serving you a CEASE & DESIST,,,,,,,(nuh come back)
Sharonette said,
January 29, 2008 at 11:19 am
Here we go again…I think NCB has somehow forgotten their line of work…they have been in court since november and there seems to be no letting up….anytime soon
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20080128T210000-0500_131897_OBS_NCB_TO_CONTINUE_SUBMISSIONS_IN_CASH_PLUS_CASE_TODAY.asp
namekyoyo said,
January 29, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Hey fellow bloggers we should prob start thinking of a new location to carry these discussions because this page will soon become unmanageable for most people’s browsers.
Any Ideas where to move when the time comes?
ensley said,
January 29, 2008 at 4:40 pm
huw about us going to the lobby at the FSC???
ForexGuy said,
January 29, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Well said #793!
Patricia said,
January 29, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Namekyoyo@792..I think Kevin2 must have anticipated that and there’s apparently a space ready and waiting here’s the link:-
http://www.invest4life.wordpress.com
DR said,
January 29, 2008 at 5:16 pm
ha ha That was funny Ensley
JK said,
January 29, 2008 at 7:17 pm
http://highyieldsource.com
JK said,
January 29, 2008 at 7:18 pm
nice forum to discuss
NM said,
January 29, 2008 at 10:22 pm
TB seems to disappear from this forum. Must have gotton paid from minvestment, ha ha ha
TB said,
January 29, 2008 at 10:33 pm
I have not disappeared, i’m right here. Of course I got my payment and yes I have reinvested. Need a referral? Check it out! http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt
lover said,
January 29, 2008 at 10:47 pm
anything new about world wise
Mr Dumb Bell said,
January 29, 2008 at 10:48 pm
U must really think we are stupid…..
JK said,
January 30, 2008 at 12:15 am
world wise new minimum will be $5000usd
and their new sight had a few glitches which should be ironed out an be up in the morning or so said their notice
but besides that nothing more really said bout them an i know quite a few who bank with ncb an never go their money who now have it so the small run on them didnt affect them
Lambert said,
January 30, 2008 at 2:06 am
TB # 800
Do you have proof of payment. Were you able to fully withdraw and redeposit or did you just reinvest internally?
Did you do 30 day plan etc.
GetRich... said,
January 30, 2008 at 4:10 am
TB- We don’t believe you, you need mo people. Only way you got paid is if you were due a fairly small payment like 2k or so. Anyway seems like Minv. gone for good this time. Getting a bad gateway message again. Maybe they will come back again. Probably just a technical glitch…”Senior Management” is on it…LOL.
Criss said,
January 30, 2008 at 9:06 am
so i am really confused right now…why would TB get the money from Minv and reinvest..u r elling me TB didnt even take some of the money and reinvest some? thats funny!!!!!!
Investment tech please help mme out here, u seems to be more of a realist.
Sharonette said,
January 30, 2008 at 9:31 am
TB,
If u need to make money off referrals…you need a stronger case….you are waiting 150 days to get paid…even if you invested $100 you would get probably $9000 return and all you can tell us is ‘ I got paid and re-invested’….WER’E NOT SOLD ON YOUR STORY….you have waited this long and we cant see for what.
Q said,
January 30, 2008 at 10:04 am
Can anybody indicate if its still ok to join LewFam…?
Cleon said,
January 30, 2008 at 10:10 am
Hey mi bredren TB or sistren not sure which one,
The ting is this TB, we have all been waiting on this blog for your 150 days to lapse so u could give us some real live serious current informatoin on this thing as one of our own (fellow blogger). As you can see alot of persons are really not convinced by your two short sentences above. Their are persons here who have invested and want to know if there is really anything to look forward to, and their are those that are a bit skeptical, want to join, but has been waiting to hear from you. Yes we have heard alot of stuff/experiences about others, but i guess your experience is the one that persons were looking forward to to determine whether they should join or not….now with all of that said…TB come strait, just tell it as it is…its time for u to call a spade a spade……DID U GET PAID….
Lamahun said,
January 30, 2008 at 10:42 am
Cant get onto minvestement site. can anyone tell whats going on?
Criss said,
January 30, 2008 at 11:15 am
i agree with u cleon, thats nooo proof at all
Dominik said,
January 30, 2008 at 11:28 am
#809 Q
Yes lewfam is still ok to join.
Q said,
January 30, 2008 at 12:42 pm
thanks Dominik
Curves said,
January 30, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Lambert and New girl can you please email me. Need some questions to be answered. Curvycurves1b@ gmail.com
Thanks
Criss said,
January 30, 2008 at 1:35 pm
TB please shed some light on the Minvest SAGA
911 said,
January 30, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Dominik which parts in the North you are!
Peace.
TAD said,
January 30, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Hello everyone,
I have been reading ur blog for the past week and so far its very interesting to see jamaicans like myself discussing various investments being offered out there.
i have invested both in ww and c+.
anyway i hope i can contribute something to ur discussions.
cheers!
Rich Kid said,
January 30, 2008 at 2:35 pm
That damn “Ross” gyal yuh si man………………….we need to sue Turnkey Promotions.
Dominik said,
January 30, 2008 at 3:30 pm
911 …. I’m in Ft Lauderdale, FL and luvin up di warm weather.
Wise Investor said,
January 30, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Minvestment’s site is currently down. On another blog, some guy from china said he was able to get on the site and they told him that it should be back up by tmrw. I don’t know if i should believe that though. I invested since early October and today is the first day i haven’t received an email notification of new interest payments. However, up to yesterday, there were a couple persons on the blog reporting that they had been paid via liberty reserve. For those of u who want to read a blog on minvestment here’s the link
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Minvestment-Wwwminvest-t146606.html
Now remember, it can’t be taken for granted that the posts are all true. My two cents on Minvestment is lets wait and c if the site comes back up.
Remember, always invest only what u can afford to lose!!
FW said,
January 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Did anyone get their interest from WW today?
Paige said,
January 30, 2008 at 6:37 pm
I didn’t see mine either but I believe they are in the process of upgrading the system.
JK said,
January 30, 2008 at 6:42 pm
them need fi hurry!
DR said,
January 30, 2008 at 6:57 pm
There is a rumour going around that WW will not be taking back the persons who came out of the company recently….can anyone confirm?
ForexGuy said,
January 30, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Reposting this,
Just wondering if anyone is investing with F1 Investments, and if they feel that the company is solid. I know that they are investing through OLINT for their gold plan, but does that mean that they are as solid as OLINT? Also, does anyone know who the real owners/traders are? It might be silly, but I would feel much more secure if I knew who the actual owners were.
Thanks for the help
FW said,
January 30, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Not sure about that DR, but if your account is less than $1500, it will be closed.
Jcan said,
January 30, 2008 at 7:58 pm
It has been a long time, this blogg’s focus has change!
To all serious investors, please learn forex trading. It is not hard, it does not take a rocket scientist either.
It pays to invest in a software that you are comfortale with. What is comfortable for me, might be different for the next person.
I am not an expert, just someone who is curious and believe knowledge is power.
I went to a free seminar/workshop on forex trading back in October. The speaker was a high school drop out who went back and get his GED, was a construction worker, bartender, cook and bottle washer etc. He said he went to a forex workshop 4 years ago and is now earning more money in one week than what the highest college degree person working for others take home in a month etc, etc.
The soft ware was very basic with few basic steps one must do to be successful eg…Direction: First 4 arrows green = buy; (some other little info explaining what to do, first 4 arrows red = sell, the Timing (using the acronym F.A.S.T) a fresh cross of the lines in the last 2 time frames, the angle of green line up or down etc…..Extremely basic things that anyone can do….
I am not here to promote any software..what I am saying, we can, YES WE CAN!
I bought the software, practice in the demo mode for a week and then went on live trading using mini accounts…I am still at the rudementary stage, still just trading one pair at a time….
I made back the money I paid for the software in 2 weeks….Still have a far way to go, I religiously follow all the steps they outlined and I am making an average of 20% weekly…..I am taking it slow and still stay in the mini account until I build more confidence overtime.
So, please….try and start learning!!!!! the softwares presently are a little bit pricey, however, with the will to succeed we can all do it.
I know a group of 6 persons who bought the software and are trading as a group…they are doing extremely well…I keep in touch with them, they are way quicker than I am in spotting the trades.
I will have to go now, it was a real pleasure reading and sharing. Wishing you all great success doing real investing….Please try and do it yourself, form a group with family and friends….Whatever it takes!!!Then and only then we will be totally free……Trading is the “gold rush of the 21st century” We all need to learn…The market is big enough for us all.
Best regards everyone.
NM said,
January 30, 2008 at 9:14 pm
TB, you lie though, are you a man or a woman? you know that you didn’t get any money. they have been having problems so you couldn’t get any. all withdrawal request was deleted because of the switch. you would have to reapply and that couldn’t happen since the site is down or was giving problems before. If you had gotten paid you would have plastered it all over this blob to show off. It hot but ush, but don’t lie please. I’m with minvestment, but what to do if them gone, we all know it was high risk and I did not invest what I wasn’t willing to loose.
MoneyChimp said,
January 30, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Jcan,
Welcome back. Can i ask you what the software is? moneychimp@hotmail.com
Gail said,
January 30, 2008 at 10:38 pm
DOMINIK–do you know if OLINt will ever open again?
vybzblack said,
January 30, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Jcan, Greetings. I’m interesting in getting some more info on that software. Is there a website i could get some info or where could it be purchase. Thanks. vybzblack@yahoo.com
Sue Sue said,
January 31, 2008 at 1:08 am
Same here J’can please email me some more info about the software @ cutecat_rm@msn.com
Thanks for sharing and thanks in advance.
amada said,
January 31, 2008 at 3:14 am
Thank you Jean for sharing that info. Is there a website where I can get more info about that software? amadamia4292@yahoo.com
Very Positive said,
January 31, 2008 at 6:17 am
J’can
Please send me the website info about the forex software.
dawn.cammack@gmail.com.
Thanks in advance.
POSITIVE said,
January 31, 2008 at 7:50 am
Jcan
Please send me info on FX software too. thanks.geomar24@gmail.com.
POSITIVE said,
January 31, 2008 at 7:51 am
geomar24@hotmail.com
specs said,
January 31, 2008 at 8:10 am
jca please send me the info on the software at specs_357@yahoo.com
Dominik said,
January 31, 2008 at 8:47 am
Gail …. e-mail me dswabes@comcast.net
Wise Investor said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:11 am
For those wondering what’s happening to Minvestment.com, i have copied this from a post on moneymakergroup.com
“Here’s a news flash: MI is down because the company that hosts their server is located in the US, and what MI does (selling unregulated securities)is illegal in the US. A simple e-mail to the admin of the server company, and the admin to the company that routes the traffic, was all it took. Now, they may (very slight chance) come back on another server, but I doubt it.”
Also, i read on that forum that some persons claim to have gotten in contact with people from M who are saying that they are switching servers. Mind u, this could be just a sham. So while we hope that there is some truth to statements claiming that M will be back up and running again, let’s all prepare ourselves for the worst. Personally, I don’t think one should place any serious investments with these hyips. Remember online capital, i was shocked to find that they r out of here. Even goldenpurse website is MIA. I personally believe that 1.4% – 3.8% can be made on a daily basis trading Forex. I have practice account with oanda.com and there were days that i made over 6%, there were days when i lost as well. So i will keep on practising and reading up as much as i can on techniques for trading Forex.
TAD said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:17 am
hi u all,
I invested with ww but i got scared (especially since i got burnt with c+) and withdrew some of my money.
Does anyone know if with the new minimum of 1500 if they will close my a/c especially since its much less than 1500?
Observer said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:20 am
Jcan
could you post a link to further info on the software. If not please e-mail me quietexcellence@cwjamaica.com
I have much interest. Thanks
XOF said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:22 am
Jcan,
Please forward the sortware info to me at giosmith@hotmail.com Thanks
Observer said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:33 am
Thanks everyone for sharing your wealth of knowledge and for having interest in another’s prosperity. I have benefited much. Now I’d like to invest and need some information.
As of this new year, which investment club(s) would you recommend as fairly safe, accepting new members, have a good track record, contact number, minimum deposit not more than US$1000 and their rate of return is not mind boggling?
Lexus_from_the_west said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:40 am
Has anyone noticed that the Minvestments website seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth and that no interest notificiations were received on January 30, 2008?
Lexus_from_the_west said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:44 am
Thanks for the update Wise Investor (839)
Marsha said,
January 31, 2008 at 10:15 am
Hi Jcan,
Can you email me the information on the FX software? Thanks in advance.
maxhug920@yahoo.com
Marlene M. said,
January 31, 2008 at 10:33 am
Good Morning Jcan,
May I have information on the available FX sofware you mentioned?
icastleleads@yahoo.com
Thank you in advance.
PonDeBank said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:04 am
Hello I just find this. Never see that we move. Does anybody know if May Daisy bank account problem sort out? QuickSilver or YardMan, can you please let us know if your wire go through. I am checking as me waiting to go in too. I also checking if Lewfam still taking accounts. Someone please advise.
Blessings
DB said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:10 am
Jcan,
Can you send the information on the software? My email address is riobell2007@gmail.com.
Thanks in advance.
Marie said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:43 am
Re: WW
I am still holding on although I have not been given or shown any encouragement to do so. I joined WW back in November and I have not yet received any interest. I called the company yesterday and to my surprised I got someone on the first try, they told me that I am not seeing my interest posted online because their website is not yet complete.
Can anyone tell me anything at all, something. I live in Florida so I am not able to visit their office but if anyone here have and have actually seen their interest please let me know (maybe I am looking for a little light to stay positive).
Thanks.
Enlightened said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:44 am
Interesting read:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080131/business/business3.html
Investment Tech said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:48 am
People TB is a fraud, he or she only wants to get referral bounus, so as to fatten his own investment which probably expires round about may or june. you dont have to be reffered fo minvestment so if the site comes back dont use TB as a reference.
Wise Investor Keep up the good work
amada said,
January 31, 2008 at 12:11 pm
#848
Lewfam is still taking new accounts.
amadamia4292@yahoo.com
Very Positive said,
January 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Marie,
#850
I joined WW back in October of 2007. Interest was posted to my account for Oct, Nov and Dec. Nothing was posted for Jan 08.
Very Positive said,
January 31, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I just spoke with WW and according to the rep there is a delay with the upgrading of the system. Should be up and running by Saturday.
KMoney said,
January 31, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Jcan,
Could you please send me the info on the software.
luvell1@yahoo.com
Thanks
JSM said,
January 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm
POST 827-Jcan Re Software:Good Day Jcan. I too am curious which “SOFTWARE” it is that you are using. If you don’t mind could you please send me the link?
Thanking you in advance,
Regards,JSM.
email address: jsm81065@hotmail.com
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 31, 2008 at 1:32 pm
POST 850 – Pon De Bank
The MayDaisy wire has not gone through as yet.
Yardman On Wall Street said,
January 31, 2008 at 1:40 pm
POST # 852 – Marie
I have had the same experience with WW as Very Positive. Received interest for Oct, Nov, and Dec. Still waiting for Jan 2008. I called from NY this morning and got through on the first try. The Rep told me, that their systems were down, and should be up and running ny next Monday. In addition, I visited their offices on Jan 2, and it was extremely crowded, but the wait was less than 2 hrs.
QUICKSILVER INVESTMENTS said,
January 31, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Still no word from MD as to new method of placement. Waiting to get new contact # as well. Different from that one on the website.
Enlightened said,
January 31, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Jcan,
The software that you mentioned is there a website that you could direct all of us to so that persons can go there as oppose to you getting flooded with a hundred of the same e-mails asking you to the send the information.
Thanks in advance.
What The said,
January 31, 2008 at 2:54 pm
What kinda post is that Jcan…..all of that…and not even a website….not even the name of the so-called software you using….stop wasting wi time….
Enlightened said,
January 31, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Hey guy…. The blog has slowed down significantly and kevin has set up another blog…. its nice and the newer post are over there.
check it out at:
http://invest4life.wordpress.com/investment-clubs/
Marie said,
January 31, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Thank you all, its encouraging to hear especially when you are far away and not able to do these things in person. I know this is a site for investors and not to invest more than you can afford to lose. I thought thats exactly what I did however, I still feel that the responsible thing to do is watch my investment.
Again, thank you all for helping.
Marie
Marsha said,
January 31, 2008 at 4:17 pm
TAD said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:17 am
hi u all,
I invested with ww but i got scared (especially since i got burnt with c+) and withdrew some of my money.
Does anyone know if with the new minimum of 1500 if they will close my a/c especially since its much less than 1500?
************************************************************
TAD-
I spoke with the supervisor today and she told me that accounts will NOT be closed if the capital is below $1500. Also, the new website will go live on Saturday 2/2.
Best Regards,
Marsha
Fyier said,
January 31, 2008 at 5:08 pm
# 843 I would probably recommend Lewfam att this point, have been a member for several months, this were rocky when they were upgrading their system and sorting out their banking, however things are moving smoothly. I have no problems so far.
#848 Yes Lewfam is still acceptin new members however you need to ask a friend to send you an invitation.
#850 My interest was posted for WW for December, however I have not been able to log-in to check for January’s posting
Jcan said,
January 31, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Enlightened,
Sorry about the post missing the link….With all the disclaimers, I forgot to post the site…and for the “new bloggers” please don’t be too rash to judge and condem…..
http://www.4xmadeeasy.com
FuzzyOriginal said,
January 31, 2008 at 7:37 pm
See 864 for New Website. Please post there instead.
FW said,
January 31, 2008 at 7:41 pm
That’s strange because I spoke to someone at WW and they told me that if the capital is below $1500, the account will be closed. They also informed me that the minimum as of Feb 1 is $5000 for new partners.
Anthony_dundee said,
January 31, 2008 at 8:09 pm
What was lewfam and olint return for Jan
Anthony_dundee said,
January 31, 2008 at 8:20 pm
4x
http://www.infomercialscams.com/scams/4x_made_easy
HD said,
January 31, 2008 at 9:01 pm
TB a Di best…..TB seh him get him payment and re-invest it……Deh one deh good !!!…. Jah Now
Marsha said,
January 31, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Hi FW-
Who did u speak to? I spoke to L.A and she assured me that if an account is below $1500 it will not CLOSE!! As long has your account is open and active (meaning funded) before midnight on 1/31 your are fine. She did validate the new minimum requirement for new partners will be $5000 starting on 2/1.
Marsha said,
January 31, 2008 at 10:20 pm
HD-
TB is a mess:-):-) After he/she PIMPED out folks him run weh! Shame on you TB. …you need to concede that MINI was a big scam after all!!!!
Rich Kid said,
January 31, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Quicksilver or Yardman – email me @ cheatedjamaican@yahoo.com. Don’t worry about my email address still upset at the “Ross” gyal
Jcan said,
February 1, 2008 at 5:23 am
Re Forex Trading
Although lots of negative sides to the 4xmadeeasy software, at least the objective of the post was achieved.
The bottom line for all serious forex investors is to learn forex trading. We have been exposed long enough!
As was mentioned, I am no expert, just curious and willing to follow basic instructions which luckily has been paying off.
Best Regards
HD said,
February 1, 2008 at 9:13 am
Nuff Respect re the attitude Jcan !!!!!
HD said,
February 1, 2008 at 9:17 am
I know Marsha….and the funny thing also is that he/whe was still PIMPIN even after the site was down !!!!
HD said,
February 1, 2008 at 9:17 am
he/she
TAD said,
February 1, 2008 at 9:33 am
Thanks Marsha.. i really hope thats the case because i really want to wait a little b4 i go reinvest with them.
Is there any hope for C+ investors…Can anyone update me..I really hope i get my money back.
Criss said,
February 1, 2008 at 9:53 am
has anyone received their worldwise payment for january….i have not and i am not sure what the problem is………
bigson said,
February 1, 2008 at 10:17 am
sir criss u will see the payment when the new site is son dont worry
HD said,
February 1, 2008 at 11:11 am
the blog continues here for those who did seee….
http://invest4life.wordpress.com/investment-clubs/
HD said,
February 1, 2008 at 11:53 am
“…who did NOT see…”
tama said,
February 5, 2008 at 1:40 pm
people MINVESTMENT CRASH
Don Giovanni said,
February 6, 2008 at 2:53 am
Of course they crashed, it was a scam from the day it born..
I pity the fool that invested his $1000 based off word of mouth
Minvestment was going on for a little while, but one they pay a couple ppl and start suckering new ones, its just a matter of time b4 u get scammed. All the signs were there. E.g. invest as low as $15 and get big returns… plz
Pound Kat Ridge said,
February 21, 2008 at 12:30 am
Well well lts of lesson s to be learnt.
Anthony said,
February 23, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Hey Pound why don’t you come over to the new forum.
HighRiskTaker said,
March 14, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Very interested sites
Kmoney said,
March 20, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Is the blog still up and active?? Anything new with MD and C+?
NewGirl said,
March 23, 2008 at 5:37 am
Kevin, I had to come over here since I am getting an error message when I try to get to the blog. Are we shut down????
jean said,
March 24, 2008 at 5:58 pm
hi guys i have been reading all your coments since december 2007. i wanted to find out about minvest, but just did nt get much info fast enough. just as i tried to get in, it went down.
And is like i was forced to try golden purse because i di not know that these places exist right here in ja. just to be as i transfer the funds to there , until this day in january 2008, i have heard nothing from them.
however i am not giving up.
VMS said,
April 4, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I have been out of system from december but have still been reading the comments potsed… I must say that i am not here to get on anyone about where they invested there money but to let you all know that i have heard from max and there really is no money and for cash plus you all should be getting some money but not sure about the interest as they have been alleging.
i dont work with NCB but from my understanding they really are not to be blamed for any of what is happening maybe more the fsc.. also since olint has been having there pay out problems because of their monies being investigated or held for a undetermined period it seems most or if not all of the private clubs are having payout problems as well …
investing in the forex market is still a great way to earn but dont want to get rich overnight.. its the longterm of your investment thats gonna bear the most fruits…
VMS said,
April 4, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Hi Patricia and Hd and the rest of you … you have been missed..
Julia said,
April 7, 2008 at 11:30 am
I just came across this blog this morning. The last entry was April 4. It seems to me that a lot of useful information has been passed through this blog. It is something which should continue.
shay said,
April 9, 2008 at 9:48 am
http://invest4life.wordpress.com/investment-clubs/
convo moved to above
Dave said,
May 21, 2008 at 11:08 am
Does anyone knows the address for Astra Int’l Inc. Need to have this, in order to transfer funds to my OLINTTCI Account. They said it’s on the website but I don’t see it.
pat said,
July 21, 2008 at 5:59 pm
http://www.olympex-group.com/?id=11235.
check it out
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#176. I need to clarify somthing.. Money Express had absolutely no affiliation to Azan Supercentre cross roads or Azmart. Most Jamaicans believe that the Azans are under one umbrella, and all companies are linked. They are not. Each individual family ownes their own store.
Need to clarify that for it is unfair to associate Money Express with all Azans, for some were clients of Money Express.