Powerful Investment Tips

February 5, 2007 at 3:42 pm (Financial Investment)

Hi Friends

First of all thank you for deciding to read, or download this information. There are a number of investments that one can make however, this document will be looking at the best investment options from the financial landscape in Jamaica. If you are interested in learning about other forms of investment feel free to ask.

What I am offering is specific time, sensitive information. Therefore, some of the rates are subject to change (though not drastically). It is plain, practical yet profound. N.B. I AM NOT A PART OF ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS. Remember to check out the Robert G. Allen video below the article.

Things to consider:

1. Join an Investment Club (90% chance you will never read this in the papers)

a. Olint Corp – You get on average 10 % per month, like stocks, is a high risk investment. But only two other organizations provide similar returns/profit than this. Plus it compounds if you don’t withdraw profits. You start it with no less then US$1000. You have to wait until March before you can start investing with them because of a court order. (N.B Tax issues may be a factor later this year, though it’s unlikely that this would dramatically affect your investment)

b. Lewfam Investment Club. You get on average 8% per month, like stocks, is a high risk investment. But only two other organizations provide more returns/profit than this. Plus it compounds if you don’t withdraw profits. I would suggest that you start with no less than US$200-300. If your equity management allows you to put more then do so. You have to wait until March before you can start investing with them because of a court order.

Cash Plus Jamaica – I really don’t know all the things that cash plus invest in, I do know that real estate and telecommunications are some though. You start with at least J$100,000.They guarantee 10% return, you receive your money every quarter though (I think there may be monthly encashment). I mention Cash Plus as a suggestion not a recommendation because I am not a part of them. However, some of my friends are members and it works for them.

2. Open a Money Market fund

a. JMMB TAX SHELTER ACCOUNT- It’s a tax free medium term (5yrs) account. It’s a Medium risk account with an interest/return of 12.30% per annum. You have to leave it in for 5 yrs. However, you have access to 75% of your interest every four (4) months (that will be taxed). You can start with no less than J$25,000. Visit www.jmmb.com

b. DB&G http://www.mydbg.com/ also offers a TFI (Tax Free Investment) account and the rates are competitive. The thing is, like JMMB, you are bonded for 5yrs. And especially in the Jamaican economy you cannot predict the rates (especially over a 5yr period), this can drastically affect you interest (not principal). My major issue is you have to start with at least J$100,000 at a rate of 11.95% the most. JMMB’s Tax Shelter is your best bet!

c. JMMB’S SAVESMART JA ACCOUNT – It is a low risk account that you can start with J$1000. The interest is very low (a bit higher than the banks) but it’s a good place to save money. Right now the return is 10.02% on J$25,000. Visit www.jmmb.com

d. JMMB’S SAVESMART US ACCOUNT – It is a low risk account, with the interest rate being 4.81%. You can start with US$500. The interest is low but higher than the banks in JA and some international banks. It is definitely a good place to save your US dollars especially because the Jamaican dollar is weak and seem to be getting weaker. Although you have to start it with US$500, I recommend this account instead of opening a US account in a Jamaican commercial bank. Visit www.jmmb.com

3. Government Securities
As it relates to government securities you may consider Capital and Credit visit http://www.capital-credit-securities.com/default.aspx. However, you have to start with J$100,000.

a. A little info on Bonds
What are they? A bond is a loan, an IOU. You, the investor, are the lender. The organization, for which the bond is created, the one desiring the loan, is known as the issuer. Investing in Government bonds is where you lend the Government money and they give you a certificate. Government bonds are the safest form of corporate investments; this of course is because the government can print more money if they owe people.

b. International/Global Bonds

DB&G’s Global Bonds account is something you may want to consider at some point. http://www.mydbg.com/ the reason why I suggest this is because of the level of diversity it comes with. Additionally, it is great for long term investment.

4. Stocks/shares
You can buy stocks through most financial houses/organizations. The thing with stocks though is that in Jamaica the market is very volatile especially since 3 years ago. I personally don’t invest in stocks again because I have had bad experiences. However, if you find a great and aggressive broker, over J$500,000 (a little exaggeration), and stocks that have GREAT potential, then you may gain. IF YOU GO STOCKS THINK LONG TERM! Of course there are exceptions, but very few. Review the Jamaican stock market daily here; http://www.jamstockex.com/

Things to consider before you make any investments:

1. What is my financial target, and are my investment goals/objectives realistic?
2. Do I want to invest in the short, medium, or long term?
3. The service fees of the organization (management, withdrawal, etc) and taxes the account assumes. Believe it or not these can sometimes deplete your profit. Investigate before you Invest!
4. The rate of return on your investment. You need to know your profit in $$$ and cents. It is one thing to work for your money, but your ultimate goal must be to make your money work for you.
5. The level of risk you are taking. Risk is a must – how much can you handle?
6. The accessibility of your money. “Am I tying up money that I could use to make more interest?” “Can it be wired?” “How many encashment options are available?”
7. The security of your money. Is my money insured, if so how much of it? Note; risk management is not limited to insurance though. I have made investments that are not insured, but I am ok with the risk.
8. Does your equity management allow you to invest in the particular opportunity?

May God Bless you richly,

Andre P. Llewellyn

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All financial advice presented in this document is not upon the mandate of any organization, club, or company mentioned in this document. All information provided is solely based upon the research, experiences and knowledge of the author. It is provided freely and should not be used for monetary gain or financial service.

Andre P. Llewellyn 2007 ©

1,264 Comments

  1. Ester Williams said,

    February 7, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Hey Dre,

    This is good stuff. I think you’re doing a great job. I must say I like. I have considered two of your options above already, base on my own research. Its good stuff for people who are not so verse on the runnings of the financial industry. I think people could use a column on short-term vz long-term investment, like which is acually better etc. I know people invest base on thier needs, profile, their risk tolerance and how they want their money to work for them. But some people generally believe that the whole roll over compounding effect is better, but in some cases it is not. In fact that is how these brokers and intermediaries make their money from our money. So you could look into this and impart some of your expertise. I hope I’m not giving you added work. Just thought it might be good info for people to know.
    This is good though. I am proud of how you make stuff happen, all the best in your endeavours and I hope you get to higher heights and deeper depths with all you do.

    Ester

  2. Gail said,

    March 5, 2007 at 4:03 am

    This is some really good information. I am ready to begin planning for retirement. I especially am attracted to OLINT and LewFam. How do you join OLINT and LewFam?

    Thanks,

    Gail

  3. Marlene M. said,

    March 22, 2007 at 8:03 am

    I am interested to know more about OLINT Corp and LEWFAM Investment Club. How does one obtain information after March 2007 to join one or both investment club? Awaits your reply.

    Thanks,
    Marlene M.

  4. Victor Nembhard said,

    March 27, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    I am interested to know more about OLINT Corp. How do you join OLINT?

  5. Rich D. said,

    March 27, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    One has to be referred by a current member before he or she can join the club (Olint)…

  6. danny whyte said,

    March 28, 2007 at 6:05 am

    has olint started to accept new accounts yet if yes how will i know

  7. mathetes said,

    March 29, 2007 at 4:17 am

    Any information requested about any investment club, or organization that legally operates anonymously will not be given in this blog lest it may be misconstrued as a financial advice ’service’. Please send me an email, I will add you to my contact list, then I will give you the information requested based upon my knowledge and experience.

  8. Andrena said,

    March 30, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    I would like to join an invetsment club. can you say how I might go about doing this?

  9. steven roberts said,

    March 31, 2007 at 2:44 am

    I would like to invest with OLINT and LEWFAM. How can I go about this?

  10. norma said,

    April 1, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    requesting contact iinformation for Olint and cash plus as soon as possible

  11. pablo said,

    April 7, 2007 at 4:56 am

    I would like to invest with OLINT and LEWFAM. How can I go about this?

  12. Dionne said,

    April 8, 2007 at 10:31 am

    I would like to know how to contact OLINT. I am interested in making an investment.

  13. maulene said,

    April 17, 2007 at 3:57 am

    i would like to make an investment with olint and lewfam, how can i contact them

  14. Claudia said,

    April 19, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    I would like to know how I can get more information on investing with Cash Plus Jamaica. In addtion any ifurther nformation on OLINT and LEWFAM will be helpful as well. Thank you in advance. (By the way, I have read all your post and think you are giving some really good advise here).

  15. Tash said,

    April 23, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    How do i go about joining OLINT and LEWFAM?

  16. Amada said,

    May 5, 2007 at 2:46 am

    Is Lewfam Club accepting new members by invitation?
    Please advise-

    Amada

  17. Steve Lawrence said,

    May 7, 2007 at 1:26 am

    Would like to be contacted regarding the investment clubs..

    Regard,
    Steve

    braincue@yahoo.com

  18. Mark said,

    May 16, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Would also like to get info on joining Lewfam and/or OLINT. Thanks

  19. HR said,

    June 15, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    How do I start up with OLINT?

    Thanks much.

  20. ORVILLE NEITA said,

    June 15, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    OLINT, are they accepting deposits from current client. I want to invest with OLINT through a friend of mine. Also, I need info. on LEWFAM. I have no details on this institution. please give advise.

  21. GPB said,

    June 18, 2007 at 7:15 am

    Thanks for your information concerning the matter of invesrment.My interest in particularly in the CASE OF OLINT. How could the Government be so stupid as to allow THE BIG NECKS TIE MEN TO DRIVE OUT THE BEST THING EVER HAPPEN TO JAMAICA AWAY FROM GOD.I CAN ONLY SEE A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR THE GOVERNMENT.Anyway it is view a wealthy nation must have a good a reflection on the econamy.Even if David Smith do not pay taxes at some stages the taxes must come back to Jamaica . A booming economy must produce businesses and busineses produce employee and employees and business produce revenue through taxes. Well as a financial adviser how could David Smith be of any harm to this economy.
    Instead of this stagnant Government approached this man and humble themslves and ask kindly for help out of the s..t pit they put us all in. They acted out of ignorance and gang the finamcial deliver. A smart county has our asset now and they are now asking that country what is the secret to sucess THE COUNTRY REPLY ” IT IS IN THE VERY THING YOU DECIDE TO THROW AWAY” ONE MANS GARBAGE CAN BE ANOTHER MANS WEALTH.

    We should have a little faith in our fellow Jamaican If a little country Black boy can become prime minister and likewise a little stand pipe girl can become The first female prime minister in Jamaica then why not our own little ordinary black boy Davis Smith.I bet if it was a white man from England the Government would embrace him. We are not serious. Well i have nrws for all this said man is going to stay right where he is and prove his integrety to all his accusers and in turn bail out Jamaica too. i can proudly say I am a member of his club and finally Im have little hope to be financially secure and not scuffle for bread. Thanks to an unselfish little black boy form the neighbourhood, As a fellow Jamaican finally Mass Joe can invest his yam money and can buy a tractor to farm more food to FEED THE SAME BIG NECK MAN. THANK GOD we are coming out of Egypt. We ill no longer be slaves to the financial houses.As the good book declares the borrower is a slave to the lender. And this a warning to all banker who want our arm and leg in order for us to acquire a loan .If you know what is cooking you will deal with all Mass Joe with kindness lest he withdraw his money.The coin is flipping and people shaking in their boots.
    My prayers is with David as i believe he was inspired by God, he coild have kept it all to himself.

  22. patricia henry said,

    June 23, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Hi Andre,

    Veryinterested inthenfirmation provided.

    I live in the uk and would like to invest in sterling. I am planning to live in JA within the next 5 yrs. Is it possible for me to invest from the UK without having to fly to JA?

    Looking forward to your response

    God Bless

    PH

  23. Janice said,

    June 26, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Hello
    Thanks for all the information. Do you know if Olint is taking new members?
    And what can you tell me about anyother investment club, I heard there is one that is handled by a woman

  24. SAFFLY said,

    June 29, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    I’m interested in investing with Lewfam Investment Club.

    Can you email me with the information regarding this.

    Thanks allot

  25. TRYXTARR said,

    July 2, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    i am pleased to see the true jamaica spirit throughout this column! Mr. GPB, i agree with u 100%. hope we all as jamaicans can open each other’s eyes and create a better tomorrow! email me privately, keep the kontact. tryxtarr@yahoo.com

  26. FINSAC said,

    July 2, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    I’m a member of lewfam. just send me an email and i’ll refer you.

    wuk_gal_hard@yahoo.com

  27. Neil said,

    July 5, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    How do I contact you (email) in order to get info on the latest developments as it relates to OLINT and Cash Plus? – Please Respond

  28. JAC said,

    July 6, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Can anyone join LEWFAM and/or OLINT?
    I need more info.

  29. Rich said,

    July 6, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    To join either club, one must be referred by a current club member. With that been said, the only way to join either club will be by invitation only. These entities are not only investment club but “Private Invest ment Clubs”…

  30. SUE said,

    July 7, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    To join Cash Plus what is required is a letter from a financial institution that you have an account, proof of address (utility bill, credit card statement) and a manager’s cheque made payable to them as well as the name of someone that has funds with them that is willing to refer them.

  31. Dominik S. said,

    July 9, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    Hello Andre,

    Are you a member of Lewfam or do you know anybody who is a member? I would really like to become a memeber, but as you know it is by referral only.

    Thanks
    Dominik

    dswabes@comcast.net

  32. Darin Lawrence said,

    July 11, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    I would like to join olint & lewfam. could you email information to me?thanks!

  33. Henry said,

    July 13, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    I will like to cotact olint, inc. Please advice me on what to do.

    Thanks

  34. Deon said,

    July 15, 2007 at 4:50 am

    I am interested in hearing more about OLINT and LEWFAM Investment Club. Could you send me information on how one could join?

    Thanks

  35. Greed said,

    July 15, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    you people just dont seem to get it. “Private investment club” as Rich has stated. You need to find somwone who is already a client and have that person refer you.

  36. Megan Scott said,

    July 16, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    You can no longer open an account with Olint as they are not taking on any new clients.

  37. Warren said,

    July 18, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    Have anyone heard about World Wise partners? I heard that they offer 12% ROI and you can withdraw your monthly profit or allow it to roll over. Any feedback?

  38. Vinsa said,

    July 21, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    Lewfam is taking members, however on a referral basis. If there is anyone who would like such a reference let me know.

    vinsa.carter@gmail.com

  39. BlessedRena said,

    July 30, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    I would like information on the different Investment Clubs specifically Olint & WorldWise. I was searching for info on the Net and bounced on this site. Thanks for your help

  40. BlessedRena said,

    July 30, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    Email. blessedrena@yahoo.com

  41. dahlia martin said,

    August 2, 2007 at 11:37 am

    have you heard about the the investment plan wherein an investor can earn 12% monthly on the us dollar. canyou shed some light on this?
    thanx

  42. Marlene M said,

    August 6, 2007 at 6:47 am

    I have contacted #26 FINSAC same #38 Vinsa via information provided on this site.
    Have anyone else contacted FINSAC/Vinsa, were you ask to provide your first and last name to be referred? Did you receive any information about the requirements to become a club member after submitting your name; What was your experience?
    Please reply, Thanks.

  43. Delroy said,

    August 7, 2007 at 12:44 am

    Could someone kindly forward the contact information for OLINT Corp and LEWFAM (address, phone #, mail, website…etc) to me? Please send the information to gurd8@aol.com. Thank you in advance.

  44. Nathan said,

    August 7, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    Can any swiss cash current account holder tell me whether their account has been affected after the injunction issued in Malaysia? Are things running smooth? I am about to join – but would like to here some of your experiences, both positive and negative.

  45. michael graham said,

    August 8, 2007 at 12:46 am

    hi andre, your article is very informative,keep up the good work.how do i contact olint and lewfam

  46. Trisha Ffrench said,

    August 10, 2007 at 4:01 am

    Hi, Does anyone know of the investment club called A3 Union. i am interested to hear from u because i am considering signing up.

  47. Rich D. said,

    August 10, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    Trisha, I would not recommend A3 Union. If you are interested in trading the forex, and this goes for all who would like to learn to trade the FOREX. http://www.markettraders.com... They offer an education package which cost about US$6000.00… David Smith was promoting them at one time…

  48. Marlene M said,

    August 11, 2007 at 2:50 am

    Rich D. good recommendation!
    I have a family member who is a student and the educational expericene is wonderful; including the gains from setting up your trade, montioring the charts and the trades (lots/pips gained) being successful….

    Trisha and other read what others have said about MTI (www.markettraders.com) and instructor, J. Martinez; “FX Chief”
    #1
    From: David Chin Fong, Jamaica

    Rating:

    Date of Post: 2007-07-07

    Review: MTI has gotten very popular in Jamaica over the last two years. This has been due primarily to the success of one of their students who operates a very profitable fx club for its members. They have opened an office and conduct regular classes/seminars/workshops. I signed up for their course which gave me access to a demo account and their MTI 4.0 charting software. I read the book by the fx Chief, Jared Martinez and also did the class. My impressions of Martinez is that he is an honest, sincere and genuine individual who honestly believes in what he teaches. I operated a demo account based on the principles he taught and initially lost some money. After critically analysing my trades and being patient i saw where a lot of money can be made by learning the strategies he taught and applying them. The charting system seems to be ok. Having nothing else to compare them to I give them 4 stars.
    #2
    From: Glendon, Mandeville, Jamaica

    Rating:

    Date of Post: 2007-04-27

    Review: I award them 4 star because they are educating persons in my country on financial opportunities. FX Chief has revolutionised the knowledge and awareness of currency trading in my country. His course is rather expensive but word of mouth is positive. His student, David Smith, has a hugely successful company Olint which acts like a savings club. As for me, I am learning to trade by reading free information on MTI site and elsewhere until I can afford the course. Truth is I cannot afford the course right now so I may end up relying on sites like Babypips and yours, and then take the live plunge into trading using the Babypips approach.
    #3 Check out other reviews at http://www.forexbastards.com
    Market Traders Institute Reviews | MTI forex Ratings | markettraders.com
    I would only deal with MTI forex after reading all the … His student, David Smith, has a hugely successful company Olint which acts like a savings club. …www.forexbastards.com/public/review/www.markettraders.com – 47k – Cached.

  49. Rich D. said,

    August 11, 2007 at 3:09 am

    Marlene, Thanks for the recognition. I have purchased the package and will begin to backtest the strategies i’m learning… By the way OLINT payout this month was 12.05%…

  50. Michelle said,

    August 14, 2007 at 12:41 am

    I live in Canada, but I am very intrested in learing more about OLINT and other investment oportunities… Please forward any information available ASAP…

    Kind Regards,
    M.

  51. debby said,

    August 15, 2007 at 1:56 am

    has anyone ever heard of maydaisy corp. They also do forex

  52. Nikki said,

    August 15, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Hi Andre,
    Thanks for the info… was very informative… I was searching for info on world wise and swiss cash and bounced on this site… could u please send me some info on both institutions as i am looking for investment options and how to join… I also heard about a 16% /mth return do u know of that.

  53. Nikki said,

    August 15, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    here is my email address for anyone who can give me the info I requested in #52 ewonde@cwjamaica.com or ewondeg@yahoo.com

  54. Marlene M said,

    August 18, 2007 at 12:38 am

    Hi Rich D.
    Congratulations on the purchase of your MTI package. As you develop your skills in this potentially profitable investment market (FOREX TRADING); much success and prosperity.
    “By the way OLINT payout this month was 12.05%…” WOW! Very impressive retruns. Would it be imposing to ask if you are club member?
    If not, can we talk via email? icastleleads@yahoo.com.
    Thanks

  55. David said,

    August 18, 2007 at 4:05 am

    I am interested in info on OLINT and LEWFAM club anybody that can tell me how to get in. please e-mail me pork.chop10@hotmail.com Thanks

  56. Meg said,

    August 18, 2007 at 6:00 am

    I am i looking for info on Worldwise and Lewfam. Is Olint taking new members? please email me treasley@hotmail.com………Thank You

  57. damian said,

    August 19, 2007 at 4:54 am

    Worldwise info can be found at their website worldwisepartner.com.
    Do your homework though, I heard that although the 12% is paid monthly you can’t pull your principal if you wish to close your account with them.

  58. Demmoy said,

    August 21, 2007 at 4:31 am

    Please send me an email staing exactly how to joint OLINT and CASHPLUS. Bear in mind I am in the US

  59. Juliet said,

    August 21, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    Hi Guys,
    Just wanna share with everyone who came accross this site: However First let me congratulate Andre again for the wonderful work he is doing. I am always searching for different investment apportunities. Skeptical at times I must admit. However I come to realise that sometimes I have to take a risk. I am now apart a an excellent investment corporation. This yields for me 20% returns each month. I have done my research and get all the necessary info. As Andre mentioned. It is a good idea to research prior to deciding on an investment. A number of my friends are also a part of the group.

    For more information on this group including their website, You can contact me (juliet.Fray@gmail.com)

  60. Kareen said,

    August 21, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    On the matter of investments. I can personally recommend Higgins Warner. The investment company based in Argentina is giving 20% interest on investment in US every month. The minimum investment is $3000.00 US. You can email me for more information.

    email: kphilbrown@gmail.com

  61. Barb said,

    August 21, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Can anyone elaborate on the operations of World Wise. How long before you can withdraw your principal? They did not give this information on their website.

  62. Dominik said,

    August 22, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    # 46 Trisha, I have been a member of A3 Union since April 07. If you want more info you can send me an e-mail with your questions to dswabes@comcast.net or you can checkout the website http://a3union.com/?id=1196

  63. BlessedRena said,

    August 28, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    #57 Damian is this true. A friend of mine just became a partner and I was thinking about becoming one too. Is it that I cant withdraw the principal after a specfic period or what? Thanx much

  64. Juliet said,

    August 28, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    #63
    I never heard of Worldwise partner before now. It does not sound bad. However it is a good idea to do the necessary checks. Rena, why not find out from your friend what they invest the money in order to give us the return.

    I would really like to know.
    Thanx

  65. mark said,

    August 29, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    any konw if olint is taking new investors and do you need a recomendation to join lewfam.

  66. damian said,

    August 30, 2007 at 2:59 am

    #65 Mark
    No, to my knowledge olint is not open for new investors. I spoke with a rep today who said they may open up in a couple months but only current members will be notified of this via email if and when this happens. As for worldwise..they seem to be using a similar model to olint.They do deal in forex. gauranteeing 80% ..but giving 6% on $300 -$1500 and 12% on $1500+.
    I also spoke with 2 different reps there that assured me you can withdraw the full amt at anytime contrary to what I was led to believe that you couldnt. With this assurance I proceeded to open an account with them and wired my $1500 to start with. I’ll keep you posted.

  67. mark said,

    August 31, 2007 at 2:58 am

    Do anybody have any experience dealings with higginswarner are they legit email me at kong.46@gmail.com

  68. huggies said,

    August 31, 2007 at 3:49 am

    I am a member of lewfam. Anyone interested in joining send me a email I could invite you.The returns vary between 5% to 10 % per month.

  69. huggies said,

    August 31, 2007 at 3:53 am

    I am a member of lewfam. Anyone interested in joining send me a email I could invite you.The returns vary between 5% to 10 % per month.

    huggies_rash@yahoo.com

  70. JK said,

    September 3, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    im looking for more information on lewfam they are beginning to look shadey to me as none of the numbers on their website works

  71. Melanie said,

    September 4, 2007 at 10:45 am

    What effect do you guys think the change in government will have on these type of investments in Jamaica

  72. Gillian said,

    September 5, 2007 at 2:45 am

    Great question Melanie, I had the same thought. Any experts want to advise us?

  73. Peter Limb said,

    September 5, 2007 at 6:59 pm

    Why would Olint not take out private loans at less than 10% annually rather than pay out 10% every month? I heard one answer that it was hard to raise capital in jamaica, but if the claims are true about returns of over 10% monthly, smith could have no problems raising the finance internationally.

    The two likely answers are that mr smith is a very generous man, or that he is involved in either money laundering or straight fraud. I certainly hope that the former reason is the truth.

    I would be very interested to hear from anyone who knows more than me and can enlighten me on Olint

  74. Peter Limb said,

    September 5, 2007 at 7:00 pm

    sorry, my address is plimbles@yahoo.com.au

  75. Shelly said,

    September 6, 2007 at 2:06 am

    Have anyone heard about Minvestment?

  76. Dean said,

    September 6, 2007 at 7:31 am

    For those who are interested in World Wise,they deal in Forex trading.US$300 is the minimum requirement.Up to US$1500 U earn 6%,above that u earn 12% (montly or roll over).If u wish to withdraw ur funds,u can but there is a penalty for doing so before the maturity date.5% will be taken.

  77. Dean said,

    September 6, 2007 at 7:33 am

    PS.The maturity date being thirty days ladies & gentlemen.

  78. Dean said,

    September 6, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    I must make a correction,i spoke with a representative at WorldWise who informed me that the penalty for early withdrawls is actually 1%.My apologies,but thats what i saw on they’re web site.

  79. Juliet Fray said,

    September 6, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    Gillian,
    I was curious too. I found out that our new government do welcome investors, thus they should not pose a problem for us.

  80. damian said,

    September 8, 2007 at 2:03 am

    Well as stated before, I made a deposit with World Wise which reflected as of 9/7. I will keep everyone updated as to how it goes. So far the only negative feedback is the customer service dept in Kingston. I consistently tried calling randomly all 5 #’s they provided over a period of 4hrs, but would only get a busy signal or a ring without answer. Only becoming more frustrated after each try I finally got a rep who informed me that they were updating their systems to make it more secure and that they should be getting more operators. ….thats it for now until 10/7 when I will be checking to see my 12% reflect on my account (fingers crossed).

  81. NSJ said,

    September 9, 2007 at 2:33 am

    i made an investment on the 7th as well. I prob. saw you there. :)

    From what i hear about WW, they seem to be ok.

    By the way, your gains are paid to you on the 1st working day of every month and will be prorated for this month i.e. you’ll see something on 10/1 and not 10/7

  82. NSJ said,

    September 9, 2007 at 2:34 am

    P.S. Cash Plus is doing very well. I suggest you try them out with 100k initially.

  83. JAnn-Marie said,

    September 10, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Could someone kindly forward the contact information for OLINT Corp and LEWFAM.

  84. JAnn-Marie said,

    September 10, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    Could someone kindly forward the contact information for OLINT Corp and LEWFAM. I may be reached at: jannmariejarrett@gmail.com

  85. Pete said,

    September 10, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    Can anyone with information on LewFam or Olint, as to there present status please make this available? Are they now officially back online? I have made a relatively small deposit with the Cashplus group and have so far been happy with there timely interest payment obligation. However, I am thinking of diversifying and would like to investigate the status of the other above mentioned companies. I would be happy to exchange info with anyone else that has the same need for info in cash plus. I can be reached at Pwilliams_atp@yahoo.com

    I think it might be important for people to be encouraged to participate cautiously and incrementally. Sometimes speculation and misinformation can ruin even the strongest investment mechanisms that we know. It’s too bad that the FSC has not been more forthcoming with information about there talks with some of these outfits. Good luck to all you investors out there.

  86. mathetes said,

    September 10, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    Greetings Friends

    Olint has not started to accept new club members as yet. Once they start I will post it on the blog. If you are interested in finding out more about LewFam, you may visit the website at http://www.http://lewfamclub.com. To join you need to be referred, if you are interested in being refered I can refer you once you send me an email. Additionally, any club member visiting this blog who reads your comment before I do can also refer you.

    Andre

  87. JK said,

    September 11, 2007 at 2:36 am

    i read an article in the observer writen by mark wignal if i remember correctly stating olint has no companies affiliated with it as lewfam states they are…… is this really tru?

    i will be entering worldwise investment as a friend of mine have been in it for quite some time…..gonna bite the bullet and hope for the best

  88. Chris said,

    September 11, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    Thanks to everyone for all there help and advice. I’m interesting in becoming a member of Lewfam. Can an existing member please contact me regarding getting a referral to join the club. Thanks again.

    Chris
    cnh4_2000@yahoo.com

  89. Kolster said,

    September 12, 2007 at 12:55 am

    Thank you, everyone for the great help and advice. I’m also interesting in becoming a member of Lewfam (and Olint). Could an existing member please contact me regarding getting a referral to join the club. Thanks again, Kolster.

    mkolster@mac.com

  90. Kolster said,

    September 12, 2007 at 1:13 am

    # 46 Trisha I did “invest” with A3 Union and actually made a very good percentage gain with them (250%) but in real money I made around $500 whitch is not really anything to brag about… I got out in time and my advise to you is NOT to invest with them. I think they are a scam.

  91. JK said,

    September 12, 2007 at 1:27 am

    well today i got an account in world wise crossing my fingers and toes now

    wish me luck

  92. damian said,

    September 13, 2007 at 6:10 am

    JK..how long have your friend been with world wise and what is his or her feedback and experience been?

  93. DG said,

    September 13, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    Is there anyone out there who has been with Worldwise for a few months? Could anyone provide feedback on their experience with them?

  94. Emile Blake said,

    September 14, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    I’m interesting in becoming a member of Olint. Can an existing member please

  95. Mr. C said,

    September 14, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Hi guys, just a note on World Wise. the interest is paid on a prorated basis to the end of the month. So if u deposited your funds on the 7th of the month then you would also have to factoring the number of days for the cheque to clear (about 5 days) then your funds will only start working for you after that. So in this case: deposit made on the 7th, cheque cleared 5 or so days later, about the 12th therfore you would only earn interest for approximately 18 days (30 -12). However in the following month you would earn interest for the entire month. Hope you guys are not dissapointed but hope this helps.

  96. Mr. C said,

    September 14, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    PS: been with them for 3 months, so far so good as it relates to payments

  97. shawn said,

    September 15, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    since noone mentioned this, i will. with world wise 80% of ur money is safe, u will loose only 20% if anything negative should happen.send me a email if u want more info on ww @ cp.
    tristan19lewis@yahoo.com

  98. huggies said,

    September 17, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    For me to invite anyone into lewfam I have to have your full name and email. Thats all that is required.
    huggies_rash@yahoo.com

  99. JK said,

    September 17, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    huggies ………thanx for the email………i have already joined world wise so im hoping for the best with them as i love the part in their terms where they garantee 80% of my money …….better than nill……but i still have my fingers crossed that nothing happens

    i started with them on the 11th so i will get their prorated figures at months end i will keep u guys up todate as i plan to leave my money there to compound over a 6-12month period before i do anything

  100. JK said,

    September 17, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    in response to damian my friend has been with worldwise for the past 3 months and she has had no complaints ……..she heard about this company because she works with a bank and according to her ……she has seen many cheques on a monthly basis being paid out to their customers on a monthly basis

  101. Neally said,

    September 20, 2007 at 2:17 am

    Can someone please provide contact information for World Wise. Thanks.

  102. huggies said,

    September 20, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    where is worldwise based and how can I join them

  103. Dominik said,

    September 20, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    #101 The contact information for World Wise can be found on there website http://www.worldwisepartner.com

    #102 World Wise is based in Jamaica, and to join just click on “sign up” and complete the required information.

  104. BlessedRena said,

    September 20, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    #95 Mr. C. Is it still prorated if you lodged the cash instead of a cheque?
    I see where they have the option of lodging cash to an RBTT account.

  105. JK said,

    September 20, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    stil gonna be prorated for the first month

  106. lover said,

    September 20, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    does anyone have any info on higgins warner. if u do please share. thanks in advance.
    unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  107. NSJ said,

    September 21, 2007 at 1:07 am

    http://www.higginswarner.com/contact.htm

    send them an email and they’ll call you back within a few hours and explain everything.

    Good Luck!

  108. Mr. C said,

    September 21, 2007 at 7:26 am

    #104, yes it is still prorated regardless of the payment method used as prorating depends on the time of the month when the fund is deposited. if you should wire the funds to the RBTT account you would still need to get the receipt ( wiring details ) in to them before your funds can start earning for you. i guess faxing this information to them is also an option. But overall your funds should take a shorter time before it start to work for you.

  109. Juliet said,

    September 21, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    #107:
    I just email you some info. I am an investor with Higgins Warner. Its going great!!!

  110. BlessedRena said,

    September 21, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    #76 Dean Is that 5% of the interest rate as the penalty or 5% of the principal?

  111. lover said,

    September 21, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Andre, can u give me some info on higgins warner base on your research. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  112. Pat said,

    September 22, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Hi
    Does any one know what the fees are that Lewfam charge for their services? how do I join? Also has anyone heard when Olint will start opening accounts again?

  113. Judith Turner said,

    September 22, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Its going good so far

    http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt

  114. Judith Turner said,

    September 22, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Its a good progrmm so far as well as Cash Plus

    http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt

  115. AJ said,

    September 22, 2007 at 7:42 pm

    #114 Judith can you give some more information on minvestment..how long have you been doing the program

  116. lover said,

    September 22, 2007 at 11:19 pm

    judith can you give me some more info on minvestment please. Are they insured etc…unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  117. lover said,

    September 22, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    andre do u have any info on minvestment ? unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  118. J said,

    September 23, 2007 at 1:29 am

    The minivestment sitew has all the details, check it out.

  119. Phillip said,

    September 23, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Just opened an account with minvestment and hoping for the best!

  120. Phillip said,

    September 23, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Does anyone know when OLINT will be opening new accounts?

  121. kem said,

    September 23, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    http://www.us2jm.com/atmcard
    I like this one.

  122. DG said,

    September 24, 2007 at 4:17 am

    Phillip – did you open your minvestment account using e-gold or e-bullion? I am seeing a lot of bad press about both systems. Otherwise, are there alternative methods of making deposits to minvestment?

  123. Dominik said,

    September 24, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    #112-Pat – LewFam does not charge for there service, they only charge to deposit and withdraw funds. The fees vary depending on the method used (wire transfer, western union, etc.). If you need a referral e-mail me dswabes@comcast.net

    #112-Pat & #120-Phillip – OLINT is not taking on any new customers, but if they do members will be the first to know. So if you know anyone in OLINT be sure to ask them. I will post a message if i find out that they are taking on new customers.

  124. Andre said,

    September 24, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Why is JMMB Donna Duncan-Scott trying to discredit David Smith and clear up rumors at this point in the game. I really don’t understand, what do you think?

    http://jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20070920T210000-0500_127610_OBS_DONNA_DUNCAN_SCOTT_SETS_THE_RECORD_STRAIGHT_ON_DAVID_SMITH_.asp

  125. DG said,

    September 24, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Is there anyone out there using minvestment – could you say how you receive your funds from minvestment? Are there any other methods of funding the account other than e-gold or e-bullion?

  126. TB said,

    September 25, 2007 at 12:51 am

    I used e-gold to fund my minvestment account. I dont no about the other methods

  127. DG said,

    September 25, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    When using e-gold, how are you able to retrieve your money when you need it?

  128. Yvette said,

    September 26, 2007 at 12:41 am

    Currently a member of Cashplus…my research makes me feel very comfortable with them. I’m in wealthbuilders assoc. too, they invest with OLINT and takes a monthly service fee of 1.5% monthly……cashplus is my favourite place, I’m going to cancel my account @ wealthbuilders this week to open one at worldwise though,….I just NEED to know when OLINT starts to accept new accounts…..I thought I heard David in his interview early this year mentioning soon……..but when???? let me know…….time fi black ja’cans mek money

  129. JK said,

    September 26, 2007 at 3:02 am

    could u give us more info on wealth builders assoc.? location etc.?

  130. Juliet said,

    September 26, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    #128 Yvette,
    Though not a member of cash plus as yet it is my next best thing. I will be going on board with them early next year. I am currently on board with Higgins warner. They pay out 20% returns each month in US.

    And you are right!! Its time we Ja’cans start kmaking money!!
    All the best now.

  131. FBI said,

    September 26, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    These investment funds are all illegal and one day we’ll have enough evidence to close them down.

  132. Mr. Invester said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    This is a warning for anyone who plans to invest with WorldWise. This company is ran by someone who is not of a very good character. PLEASE BE AWARE.This is a ponzi scheme. It has just started 3-4 months now there is no telling where it will stop but for sure it will stop

  133. Mr. Invester said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    This is a warning for anyone who plans to invest with WorldWise. This company is ran by someone who is not of a very good character. PLEASE BE AWARE.This is a ponzi scheme. It has just started 3-4 months now there is no telling where it will stop but for sure it will stop

  134. Juliet said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    ## 131
    I am not in for ponzi schemes. Anyway could you answer a question for me?
    if your friend or someone borrow your money and in return decided to pay you back with interest, would you accept it. or would you prefer to just take back the principal? Would it be illegal for you to accept your principal including the interest they are willing to pay?
    I urgently await your respond.

    Thanks Much

  135. Juliet said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    #133
    Could you shed more light on this. I am not with worldwise, however I am sure a number of persons are. Where did you get your info?

  136. DG said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    MR INVESTOR – Can you substantiate your claim of worldwise being a Ponzi?

  137. Dominik said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    #131 – FBI
    Why so hostile? If these investment funds are illegal, then you should throw banks into this “investment funds” category. Banks do the same exact Forex trading, except the return you get is not even a drop in the bucket. Then after inflation you’ll be lucky if there’s anything left in the bucket.

    Have you ever tried to invest with one of these companies? Believe me i had the same opinion you did, until i invested myself. Take a look at LewFam’s track record and tell me if you would complain about these returns.

    http://www.lewfamclub.com/Performance.html

  138. Andre said,

    September 26, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    #131 How can you say this when some of these companies are licensed to trade and are operating within the law that governs them. I’ am sure if you are an agent of some sorts you would not be compromising your case/ plot to take down any institution within the near future it would just happen when you build a case against them rule 101 Colombia University Law School .

  139. kAREEN said,

    September 26, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    Mr. 131- FBI

    You must have had bad experiences with investments. Can share the worst one with us?
    I must tell you that I personally have had good experiences investing with Higgins Warner (Argentina). My returns so far have been paid in a timely manner.

  140. Kareen said,

    September 26, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    Hi Mr.# 131-FBI.
    Based on your comments,you must have had bad experiences with investment companies. Would you mind sharing the worst one with us?
    Well I must tell you that I’ve had good experiences with Higgins Warner (Argentina). My returns were paid in a timely manner and guess what they are not operating illegally. They are registered. I am inviting you to try this one and I know your views about investment companies will be different.

  141. Amin said,

    September 26, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    These sound very good. Anyone know if swisscash is still paying out though? The last time I checked the website was down but people still say they are receiving their monthly payments. How do I signup with em if it is at all possible now? What about worldwise? Where are they and any good?

  142. TB said,

    September 27, 2007 at 1:33 am

    http://www.us2jm.com/atmcard

  143. TB said,

    September 27, 2007 at 1:34 am

    Has been around for awhile

  144. Phillip said,

    September 27, 2007 at 3:41 am

    I opened my minvestment account with both e-gold and e-bullion, as they recommend you to open with both

  145. Phillip said,

    September 27, 2007 at 5:07 am

    I think I will use E-bullion instead of E-gold because it seems that with E-gold, you have to open an account with another website just to put money into the account. With E-bullion however, they have an in-house wire transfer program so you have to deal with less merchants and I feel my money is safer that way.
    I will be putting about $1000 into this account in the next couple of weeks and I will let you all know how it goes.

  146. Phillip said,

    September 27, 2007 at 9:23 am

    Been doing some research and it seems that minvestment has stopped paying in some cases! anyone hear of this?

  147. Phillip said,

    September 27, 2007 at 9:26 am

    Trisha, I looked into A3union as well and they seem to be in a bit of a slump with payments as well!

  148. steve said,

    September 27, 2007 at 9:41 am

    Thanks to everyone for all there help and advice. I’m interesting in becoming a member of Lewfam. And OLINT when they start to take on new clients. Can an existing member please contact me regarding getting a referral to join the clubs. My email address is (specialistkid@hotmail.com)

    Thanks

  149. Phillip said,

    September 27, 2007 at 10:28 am

    Sorry for the misinformation, Minvestment is doing fine and paying on time, it is A3 Union that has completely stopped paying and people have lost lots of money.

  150. VMS said,

    September 27, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Hi everyone,

    I just want to let anyone who is interested in Higgins Warner investments to be very carefull and do your research properly….They us to operate in jamaica and they Rob a whole lot of people and left… their offices use to be at Trade center and they were doing the very same thing and went bankrupt.

    They just left the country and start doing the same thing again…i use to work for them..

  151. kAREEN said,

    September 27, 2007 at 7:12 pm

    I have been living in Jamaica all my life and this investment was never here. I did do my research. Are you saying you are from Jamaica? Are you sure itis this same investment from Argentina owned by Max Higgins? Please advise, I will really like to clear the air.

  152. Juliet said,

    September 27, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    #150
    I do hear what you are saying: However You need to get your facts together. There exist no trade center in Jamaica that I know of. I was born here. The only trade center I am aware of is the World Trade center. If they indeed rob a whole lot of people in Jamaica and left. Why on earth would they return. If its for one, I know the Jamaican people. No one rob them, left and return and they remain standing. How crazy could Higgins be. Please ensure that you are referring to the right people. based on what you just say, could do a alot of Damage to Max higgins Character. Also if they are such robbers, why would a well know commercial bank invested with them. Come on!! VMS, get it right and come with more facts. Quote me names of the persons who you work with. This Higgins warner that you mention, tell me more about their investments etc..I need something more tangible to fall for this.

    I await your response

  153. VMS said,

    September 27, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    hello dear,
    I am saying what i know, as i am entitled to and the TRADE CENTER i am talking is on redhills road. lots of business operate from there,please go and ask anyone if you like.. thats why i say check for your damn self… I am not saying anyone to take it has gospel but do some checkS before u talk. who cares who are involve … if u really want to find out the truth mam, u will.

  154. VMS said,

    September 27, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Hi Juliet,
    I’m not saying they are not running ligit and now things aren’t working but as i said before to everyone, just be carefull… I am not telling anyone to not invest with them.. Just check thoroughly first . I don’t have anything to gain in defaming Higgins warner just telling people be CAREFULL !!!!.

  155. KIDCHILLIN said,

    September 27, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    Has anyone ever heard of Cambridge Palm Estate, its a Forex like Olint.

  156. lover said,

    September 27, 2007 at 11:39 pm

    info about world wise would be gladly appreciated…
    unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  157. VMS said,

    September 28, 2007 at 1:59 am

    Hi Kid…
    I have never heard of cambridge palm but have you ever heard of Relaxbusiness.con 14% per week?

  158. La Toya said,

    September 28, 2007 at 4:07 am

    VMS can you please be more clear on what was the name they use to do business under since you use to work with them? How long were they running thier business in Jamaica before they left with investors money?

  159. elaine foster said,

    September 28, 2007 at 4:53 am

    can you please give me info. on lewfam, olint, and higgins warner. Thanks .

  160. KIDCHILLIN said,

    September 28, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    VMS sorry I dont have any information on Relaxbusiness.com, although 14% a week does sound interesting. Please provide Some more insight on Higgins Warner, it would be appreciated.

  161. Juliet said,

    September 28, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    Hi VMS,
    I cant see why you become so hostile using words such as Damn!. I simple ask you to give us names, I am sure you are free to do so too. Jamaica recommend free speech. To be frank, Yesterday after seeing your remark, I decided to call their office. I had to do this, since I think highly of Higgins warner based on all the investigations that I have done. I also refer others to the investment opportunity and thus I would appreciate it if someone make such a statement like you did. they should be able to come with more evidence than just that. If I should come to you and tell you that I saw john brown stealing something. I am sure that your next question will be where and when which I am sure will follow with other questions. You would need all that info prior to believeing that John Brown is a crook. You would probably want to know who else saw him in action. Now all I am asking is that you provide more info. Also why would they rob all these people and return to Jamaica and register with the Office of Registered Companys? Also why are you no longer with them.? While working with them didn’t you know they were crooks? Are you then saying that you were also involve? if you are so willing to help, why didn’t you be the whistle blower at the time and assist those poor investors. Come on VMS, tell me exactly what happen? Also its still not too late to file a lawsuit. I am sure the companys lawyer will be happy to hear your story. If you like to talk to the Lawyer. I will be more than happy to provide you with his information.

    Peace out

  162. Lateisha said,

    September 28, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    I would like to join an investment club how do i go about that

  163. Lateisha said,

    September 28, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    I would like to join an investment club how do i go about that

    lateisha_campbell@admworld.com

  164. DG said,

    September 28, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Has anybody heard of Maydaisy? I heard that they pay 20% per month, but am yet to find more information about them

  165. lifter said,

    September 28, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    VMS

    Interested in a useful answer to Juliet questions.

  166. Orel B said,

    September 28, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    Juliet i’m in full agreement with you. I believe that VMS should come forward with some evidence to support such a strong statement. I’m also wondering if the media didn’t make any report of such a company robbing investors,and i guess large amount of funds. There must be some record of warner higgins going under in Jamaica. It’s everyone responsibility to know where they are putting their hard earn cash and even though VMS show some concern,he or she need to show proof inorder for us to belive if the statement made is credible.

  167. earl said,

    September 29, 2007 at 3:10 am

    I am a member of olint for the past year and change, almost 2 years and have been getting 10% return each month and more at times it seems, but at this time they are not accepting any new member from what i see, but keep in mind they are helping the poor man with what they are doing because I am a perfect example of this, the returns go into my account each month on my request so keep checking on this, olint is for the poor man too if the jamaican government let them do their business. That all

  168. Greed said,

    September 29, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    greed is good!!!

  169. VMS said,

    September 29, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    I am sorry if i sound aggressive but i am not here to spread any rumors and I wasn’t involve at that level where i can say i knew at the time what was going on … Who knows, maybe when he went to argentina he payed back the people. One thing I know, he is a kind person with good intentions. I still feel safe in saying you should be carefull … there might actually be some stability in his business now and that things are better than when he was in jamaica.
    The name that max operated under was .. Higgins warner.. Max Emille Higgins… At the time they were in fashion Rock… They had One fashion show that was held at Breezes Runaway Bay and the only recognised artiste was freddy mcgregor.. He then had a DVD made by Gee Jams Records and was to start distributing overseas. the whole thing was stupid. I am not sure what happened to the DVD’s but max was on the cover dressed in a pharoh egyptian Costume and Dexta Pottinger was the Cordinator. No one really attended the show because the ticket prices were so ridiculous .$2000 US per ticket. That was his intention of investing the money and giving the returns, he was promising alot and every sunday he advertised in the papers about his 20% US$$ return on your money… At the time his website was promoting fashion rock and saying he was getting Paris hilton and britney spears for his shows. I don’t understand how at the time you could be promoting with stars images like that..but he did it. I am not saying anyone should pull out their money just be CAREFULL?

  170. AJ said,

    September 29, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    Has any one been in minivestment long enough to actually get their withdrawal? I am veiwing their website and apparrently you cannot touch the monely until after 150 days. I am interested in anyone who has realized the full profit at the end of the 150 days…

  171. sherwin said,

    September 29, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Email your full name and email address and I will invite you to Lewfam.

  172. DG said,

    September 29, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    #170 AJ – It is the principal which remains for 150 days. You can withdraw the “profit” almost immediately if you don’t compound it.

  173. Anthony said,

    September 30, 2007 at 12:30 am

    I must say high risk investment is the order of the day here in Jamaica. For too long we have been taken for granted by the big financial institutions only to read at the end of each year how much profit they have made. God bless Carlos Hill and David Smith those guys are trend setters willing to share the big cake and i must say that cake is the best cake i have had. Worldwise is only picking up where Olint wanted to take Jamaica i only hope they have the same intentions because the place sell off.

  174. JK said,

    September 30, 2007 at 12:54 am

    anthony are you in worldwise?

  175. Walker said,

    September 30, 2007 at 1:02 am

    Hey folks, so far I can say that MayDaisy’s website is http://www.maydaisy.com but that is as much info as I have can confirm monthly payout of 20% and that the business is in fact forex trading, but how do you JOIN?

    ps. lemme know please email: naturekay@yahoo.com

  176. Anthony said,

    September 30, 2007 at 1:32 am

    Hey JK I know that the place sell off because i am a member awaiting my second months interest. From the type of business i see going on them no only sell off them a mek a profit.

  177. Anthony said,

    September 30, 2007 at 1:39 am

    Hey JK I know that the place sell off because i am a member awaiting my second months interest. From the type of business i see going on them no only sell off them a mek a profit. Did you receive info on wealthbuilders?

  178. Anthony said,

    September 30, 2007 at 2:07 am

    Anyone has any info on aic.com from what i am told they are really an exclusive club. Yet to meet a member.

  179. Mr. Investor said,

    September 30, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    For anyone thinking about investing in WorldWise check the integrity of the chairman. Do your due dilligence I can only warn you.

  180. Anthony said,

    September 30, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Mr Investor is their something that you know about Noel Strachan or is it that you just a player hater. You see their is one thing I have always noticed that we the guys who risk it are never complaining and the people who got nothing to lose are always trying to cause a panic. If you have facts please put it on the table like VMS#169 did.

  181. David said,

    September 30, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    Andre do you have any info on minvestment.com that you could share.

  182. Basil said,

    September 30, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    Hi Julet, I would appreciate it if you can give me some information on
    Higgins Warner. My email address is:oneillbaspol@bellsouth.net

  183. cia said,

    September 30, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    Higgins owes me

  184. TB said,

    September 30, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    Join the growing number of persons earning cool money.
    http://www.us2jm.com/atmcard

  185. mark said,

    September 30, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    Cia, give more details about higgins owing you….

  186. La Toya said,

    September 30, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    Please Cia, I would love to know also why didn’t you make that clear from the time you have been posting comments?

  187. nikkip said,

    October 1, 2007 at 2:38 am

    So guys I have read your blogs, now my question is which of these investments would you recommend for a beginner?

  188. nikkip said,

    October 1, 2007 at 2:38 am

    So guys I have read your blogs, now my question is which of these investments would you recommend for a beginner?

  189. Pat said,

    October 1, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Any one knows what Olint’s interest rate for September was?

  190. Mr. Investor said,

    October 1, 2007 at 11:57 am

    Anthony you seem like a happy employee of WorldWise. I know this guy noel from a developement that I deposited on which is yet to be completed from 2004. I have heard horrible stories about this guy.

  191. Anthony said,

    October 1, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    Well I don’t even know the man personally but neither do i know Mr Carlos Hill or David Smith and from past experience they are delivering the goods. Now i must agree i am new to worldwise and as I said earlier I am only hoping that they are as efficient as the other two companies. Sorry to hear about your experience but so far so good when I checked my account the 12% was there yesterday. However i never get complacent that is why i go in all three and so far I have never lost a cent in any risky inv.in two years so yes to you i am HAPPY.

  192. Anthony said,

    October 1, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Hey JK what is your opinion on worldwise?

  193. Mark said,

    October 1, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Well nikkip,
    It all depends on how much money you have and whats your risk appetite like. Cash Plus (Min. Ja$100,000 at 10%) being going on for about 5 years. OLINT 10% (which you cant get into unless through a current investor) going on about 4 years and LEWfam (think its US$300 Min 8%) about the same time as OLINT. Higgins Warner (US$5000 at 20% was in Jamaica up 2005 then migrated to Argentina and reestablished back in Jamaica late last year). Worldwise a few months (US$300 at 6% or >Us$1500 at 12%). Swiss(25%) & A3(from 1.6% per day) i not sure about their viability or stability of Swiss and A3.

    The only two I am involved with right now are Cash Plus and Higgins Warner Group. I will start Lewfam soon and thinking about Worldwise.

  194. lover said,

    October 1, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    #191 anthony
    i want to become a member of olint can you refer me? This investment house seems to be a good choice, it’s just a pitty that the government is fighting it (and the government say they were for “poor people”). Time to break the boundary between the rich and the poor.

    Thanks in advance for ur assistance… http://www.unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  195. Zunammie said,

    October 1, 2007 at 6:25 pm

    Just wanna say how great this site is for making this kind of info available. Its so hard to find valid info out there with all the big firms fighting what these new invest. opps can do for the ppl of JA.
    I am with Olint and considering Worldwise and Higgins. Olint is great! Thank you David!!!
    Also research on The Law of Attraction, “The Secret” to gain more insite on creating wealth in your life.
    Abundance is our birthright.
    More Joy, More Prosperity, More Happiness

  196. Anthony said,

    October 1, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    #194 I got in on someones account so I really have to be cautious on who i refer. I only hope for your sake olint sorts out themselves and get back to the basics of getting new customers.

  197. Juliet said,

    October 1, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    VMS,
    I now got your story. Quite balance I must say. Now, I am not going to challenge you. What I do understand in business is that anything can happen. If what you are saying is true, so be it. any business can experience disaster. The good thing is you make it quite clear that Emile do have good Intentions. For someone that is describe as been kind with good intentions, I do embrace. For me, I would rather to loose my money to someone who is trying to do good for me than to loose it to someone who had no intention of assisting me in the first place. To be frank, VMS, I am not a bit nervous about my investment with Higgins Warner. Like my father use to say some 19 years ago,” Stick to the evil that you know”. That I am doing.

    If Emile had a bad experience in Jamaica, Maybe thats the reason why he went to establish himself in Jamaica and return Bigger and better. With any business obstacles will come. If you name me one business that you could start problem free, I’ll appreciate it. To be frank Emile Higgins do have a back up plan for his investors. Just to show the type of person he is. IF what you are saying is true, it could be that he learnt from his mistakes, which we all should do. According to the great Confucius” Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes”

  198. Pat said,

    October 1, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    I think when I initially posted this blog I got lost in the shuffle. but does any one knows what Olint’s interest rate for September was?

  199. Oneal said,

    October 1, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Higgins is the bomb. You get 20% per month on a 6 month contract. At the end of the 6 months you get the final 20% payment and you full principal back guarantee. You can ask that your principal be left to roll again for another 6 months. If you need to join contact me….
    reach_oneal@hotmail.com

  200. juliet said,

    October 1, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    #199
    Power to you Oneal. You know what you are saying!!

  201. lover said,

    October 1, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    #195 CAN U GET ME IN OLINT ? I WANT TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THIS INVESTMENT HOUSE…..unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  202. DG said,

    October 2, 2007 at 12:53 am

    Has anyone not received their payment from Cash Plus this month?

  203. DG said,

    October 2, 2007 at 12:53 am

    That is…..those people who get the money paid into their accounts

  204. La Toya said,

    October 2, 2007 at 1:46 am

    Why what happened to you DG?

  205. DG said,

    October 2, 2007 at 2:23 am

    LaToya : I am figuring (and hoping) that perhaps it is just the fact that the month end fell on the weekend, but I haven’t seen my monthly payment from CPlus yet.

  206. Anthony said,

    October 2, 2007 at 4:48 am

    195 I second your comment. This sight is the bomb. A brighter tomorrow seems possible.

  207. damian said,

    October 2, 2007 at 6:08 am

    Pat – I think olint paid 13.24% for Sept.
    I heard they also have a plan b that paid close to 17% . Can any existing member confirm, and also explain the qualifications to get on this plan.

  208. Pat said,

    October 2, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Thanks Damian, Any one knows about the plan B, i would love to hear more.

  209. Basil said,

    October 2, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    Thank you Juliet and all you other guys who responded to my request
    for information on Higgins Warner. All were positive.

  210. Ann said,

    October 2, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    #199 & #200
    I have a relative in Higgins and from he gave Higgins the money he don’t see or hear from him, more than a year now. Could you tell me how I can contact Higgins.

  211. juliet said,

    October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    #210
    I would advise individuals to be careful of who they gave money to.
    A friend of mine from Florida, spoke to Emile Higgins three weeks ago and was informed that there are persons posing as agents.

    Thats my reason for emploring individuals to check it our for themselves. if someone tells you they represent Higgins warner. Check it out. Call the office if you will and confirm that this person do works for Higgins Warner. I have met the legit people and they are no crooks.
    Why dont you contact me for more info on who to talk to on this. I hope your relative have the name of the person they dealt with and the name that they do the cheque in. I am also asking individuals who might be interested in Higgins warner to never do a cheque in an individual name. Cheques shoud only be done payable to the company not an individual.

    Peace to you all

  212. john said,

    October 2, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    I have been following this board for months now and the only one I see that has stood the test of time and has no controversy surrounding it as far as legitimacy is concerned is OLINT. I pray they start accepting members soon.

  213. john said,

    October 2, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    Has anyone been in the higggins programme for more than 6 months where they have received their interest and principal back? For some reason I feel these people who are pushing the higgins agenda are employees who are making a commission. Can I hear from someone who has been in the programme for more than 6 months. Please post for everyone to see.

  214. Juliet said,

    October 2, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    Hi John,
    Just to clear the air. I am not an employee with Higgins Warner. I have been an investor with then for over 2 months. I have a friend who have been with them over six months now. I’ll ask him to visit the site and post his comments.
    Also I have been getting my returns on time.

    peace out.

  215. Anthony said,

    October 2, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    I like to make money but swiss cash never interested me and neither does higgins. I prefer to stay any where between 10% and 15% as a child I always heard the saying ” Craven choke puppy.” I also need to see a face. However with David Smith track record if one day he decides to step up the pace against wordwise his competitor I would take it with two hands because after all he is the genius.

  216. lover said,

    October 2, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    #207 damian CAN U GET ME IN OLINT ? I WANT TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THIS INVESTMENT HOUSE ….. http://www.unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  217. Junior said,

    October 2, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    Does anyone know about Maydaisy? They also do trading in jamaica.

  218. DG said,

    October 3, 2007 at 12:09 am

    #217 How does one go about joining Maydaisy? You can e-mail me at comsciteach@yahoo.com

  219. Natalie Murphy said,

    October 3, 2007 at 1:01 am

    Do you know about Worldwidepartner.com? Its. a US$ investment where you get 12% each month.

  220. Natalie Murphy said,

    October 3, 2007 at 1:06 am

    Do you know about Worldwiseparnter.com. Money is invested in US$ you get 12% each month.

  221. Powder said,

    October 3, 2007 at 1:18 am

    What is Maydaisy

  222. DG said,

    October 3, 2007 at 1:36 am

    Made an investment with Worldwise last week. Keeping fingers crossed. Can anyone provide some insight about Maydaisy including contact information

  223. David said,

    October 3, 2007 at 3:47 am

    #96 Mr.C
    #99 JK
    Could you give us a update on worldwise,are you getting your interest and does everything still look legit. How is the service with them.

  224. Mr. C said,

    October 3, 2007 at 6:07 am

    David #223
    Yes i am still getting my interest payments, so far so good where that is concerned. The office is very busy these days so its difficult to get them on the phone and going there you might encounter delays as well. But payment wise your account balance is updated on the last day of the month. other friends that request their payment monthly are receiving their payments on time. Hope this helps

  225. damian said,

    October 3, 2007 at 6:51 am

    # 207 lover
    unfortnately olint is not open for new members as yet.

  226. Mr. Investor said,

    October 3, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    Anthony, if another investment scheme poped up would you invest? Do you know how easy it is for someone to get up and tell you that they are giving this and that interest.. True traders cannot guarantee a return that is why Davids Smiths interests fluctuates. Again DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE on the owner Noel Strchan.In no way can I benefit from telling you to be aware of WorldWise but based on prior business with the chairman this guy to me is a con waiting on the right payday to pack up and leave. I am yet to collect my $3 mil from that development he solicited deposite for, turned out there was no development all of a sudden he is into forex trading BE AWARE

  227. Mr. C said,

    October 3, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    Mr. Investor thank you again for the warnings. I can only imagine your anger / hurt based on your experience with Noel Strachan. I have just one comment based on what is said above. As it relates to the guaranteed 12% per month i did ask them about this and was told that this is a cap. Therefore the rates can actually be less but so far they are able to pay the 12%.
    Let us remember, as mentioned time and time again, high return implies high risk. So be careful not to invest more than you are willing to lose. Therefore if the worse happens no blame game or consideration of jumping off causeway bridge. if that is the case, if you cannot handle the stress, if you are not comfortable stay away, JUST SAY NO!

  228. Anthony said,

    October 3, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Mr. Investor i say again i am sorry for the bad choice you made re your investment it seems you did not do your DUE DILIGENCE. However at this point my situation is that I have made over $3mil in interest in cash p and I started small, lets face it if at that time I had what you lost i would be way ahead of the game but i ain’t complaining. I have now realized that I sleep better knowing that if the risk is split 3 ways it is more unlikely that all three companies would fold one time so i should be able to pull from say two and still be ahead of the game. I have heard about several other inv. house that actually pays better and I have stayed away. Non the less if ever there was a 4th that i felt could deliver would probably consider and split the risk 4 ways.

  229. Anthony said,

    October 3, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Grape vine cash p gone u s inv. Olint stepping up the pace. One wonders what worldwise will do because it seems non of these companies is going to lie down and die it is indeed a competitive market and should suit the customer. However one only hopes that they are able to sustain these increase rates because as i said earlier i ain’t craven and at this time is quite satisfied with 10% to 15%.

  230. Mr. C said,

    October 3, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    I hear that these are the new rates CONSIDERATION for cash plus. please call to confirm guys. Also when will this become effective? can u switch between plans? Minimum for foreign currency investment etc.
    as it says above CONSIDERATION
    Anthony not only US$ but Canadian and Sterling. Sorry about the poor format guys.

    Type Period JA Dollars US Dollars CAD / Sterling
    Monthly / Rollover Monthly / Rollover Monthly / Rollover
    A 3 Months 10% / 12% 8% /10% 7% / 9%
    B 6 Months 11% / 14% 9% /12% 8% /11%
    C 1 Year 12% / 15% 10% / 13% 9% / 12%
    D 2 Years 13% / 16% 11% / 14% 10% / 13%
    E 3 Years 14% /17% 12% / 15% 11% / 14%
    F 5 Years 15% /18% 13% / 16% 12% / 15%

  231. Mr. C said,

    October 3, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    OK the format is really poor but the basic interpretation is this. Say u chose plan C and planned to invest J$100,000.00 then you basically have two options with plan C, both options include locking in the principal for 1 Year. Plan F for example implies locking in the principal for 5 years etc. Back to our plan C example, you can chose
    1) Lock in principal for a year, roll interest and receive 15% per month
    2) Lock in principal for the year, collect interest monthly but at 12%
    the same principle applies for all plans and currencies. but like i said thats all i know, you would have to contact them for more details

  232. JK said,

    October 3, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    i checked my account an so fat i recieved my prorated interest for the month …..this is with worldwise……….so far so good…….. i only recievred 4.8% for this month as my deposit was accepted on the 21th

    so no complaints so far an i hope it continues

  233. Anthony said,

    October 3, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    Just last week a customer officer was bragging at worldwise saying that them taking the market share from cash p wonder what is going to happen now because after all cash p has a track record of delivering the cookie. Boy me never know me would a live fi see so much food a mek. Mr Investor mi just a whistle and ride them three here to the line.

  234. TB said,

    October 3, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    Did anyone sign up with minvestment?

  235. TB said,

    October 3, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    I think its a good one

  236. JK said,

    October 3, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    are u in it?

  237. Mark said,

    October 3, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    For anyone that needs information about Higgins Warner.

    Email me: linkupgt@yahoo.com

  238. TB said,

    October 3, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    yes

  239. TB said,

    October 3, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    This is my referral http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt

  240. Chris said,

    October 3, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    I am with WorldWise for almost a month now. I got my prorated interest for september and it was right on point. I have my fingers crossed just like everyone else. HOWEVER, my friend’s experience with them hasn’t been so good..he told me today he is still trying to get his balance/interest straightened out with them for August and September…Also, their Customer Service seems to be completely inadequate for the volume of traffic they receive…getting someone on the phone requires Las Vegas-style luck :) ..And, I’m still waiting for a response to an email I sent weeks ago lol..I spoke to someone down there today and I was told they are still ramping up and things should get better soon.. For now I’m just going to ride it out and see what happens..considering waiting until there service improves before adding more funds though…

  241. Natalie said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:37 am

    Does anyone knows about Careif? I herd it’s a real estate investment plan, where you get a chance for a house. You must however invest $200,000.00 for 3 years and get $1,200.000.00 plus a chance at one of their sites they are building. If you are a member of their club, you can also get US$5,400.00 every 3 years for life. I need more info.

  242. Natalie said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:39 am

    If regards to worldwise, if Cash plus is competing with them wouldn’t there be trouble. Could that cause them to crash?

  243. Powder said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:40 am

    Does anyone knows about Bisalus an another investment company?

  244. La Toya said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:46 am

    Yes can you please explain more about them trying to pick up the pace and also where do you guys get the inside info on cash plus because I would like to be ahead of my game with investment that I’m in.

  245. damian said,

    October 4, 2007 at 4:13 am

    Chris I know what you mean, as I mentioned previously in post # 80, their customer service needs to be staffed up to facilitate the volume of calls they receive. Luckily I was able to get a direct # to one of the managers there in which it only took 4 tries. But imma wait until they get there stuff str8 before adding any more funds. So far I’ve seen a payout for Sept. (not complaining) In 2 more weeks I’ll give feedback on higgins warner.

  246. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 6:01 am

    As I said earlier this pace is unbelievable I only hope the managers for these companies have really done a proper market study and don’t crash and burn. EVERYONE BUT WORLDWISE IS OFFERING MORE. Just got an email from….cant say who but the new plan is 12% to14%, 15% to 18%, and 19% to 22% it all depends on the amount of papers re the rates. Might just take your advice Mr Investor and pull from wwise because after all i am pretty confident Mr……. and as you say fluctuating int. is a bit safer. the beauty about this new plan is that you do not have to lock in any principal. Can it get any better because only the top rate is out of my league and at these rates i should not take too long to get there. To think that just last week I told that officer at worldwise he should just be humble about there increased business.

  247. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:09 am

    Latoya this is not inside info anymore. The brochures are out and people have started signing up at c plus already but I have been told the place is crowded. I wont say I am an expert but when I risk my money I am always in your face and I find it works for me getting privileged info. Sometimes you got to let people know where you are coming from meaning you are well informed of other avenues you could travel. This works for me. That is one of the reason I love this site.

  248. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:24 am

    Just a correction it is not olint that is stepping up the pace but…… Sorry for that miss info. Good night you all.

  249. Mr. Investor said,

    October 4, 2007 at 11:43 am

    What do you base your investments on dont you want to know you are ivesting with people of integrity

    1. David Smith is a known forex trader with a background in the banking industry he worked at JMMB

    2. Carlos Hill was a mortgage banker not sure what bank tho

    3.May Daisy she is a trader averages 20% per month it is said that she trades for Olint

    3. Lewfam gives Olint money to trade

    4. Noel strchan of WorldWise unknown said he was a developer takes peoples money and does nothing it is also said that he was involved with another illicit trade and I dont mean forex trade

    I only hope this helps sum people. I sure wish I knew more of about him before my loss

  250. Mr. Investor said,

    October 4, 2007 at 11:50 am

    Why would they need to step up the pace , is it that they need new investments to stay afloat?

    Olint hasnt taken any new investments in almost a year now and has not folded I will stick to David he is obviously really trading peoples funds notice he doesnt need any new investment

    In order for a ponzi to continue it needs new investments it borrows from me to pay you it can continue for a long time with a constant flow of new money however

  251. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    I get your point however olint might not be taking new client but they sure are taking on new money. I have all the confidence in Mr David Smith and I have said that from day one, but isn’t new money the same like new client? In my opinion todays business world is so set that one has to be competitive to survive and as a result no company is going to allow another company to just eat up the market share without a fight and this is what I think is unfolding. It would appear to me that back in the day you went olint I went cash p I am just not prepared to leave all my eggs in that basket so I am spreading the risk. Got in olint through the back door and tried worldwise. You are now putting cards on the table but let me remind you it is also said that a lot of people we look up to as politician and business people use to do illicit activity back in the day. I however do not have any proof of that. Anyway worldwise has the least earning power now so I might just take your advice although I might still leave some in the kitty.

  252. vybzguy said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    Mr. Investor,
    I think all these investment houses are risk,
    we just have to do our research and invest with
    the campany we feel comfortable with.
    Can you provide more info about May Daisy. Thanks

  253. DAVE said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    can anyone give me info on higgins warner investment plan where the office is located and possible contact, is it good or bad investment ? THX

  254. Chris said,

    October 4, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    Does anyone here have a MayDaisy account? If so, for how long? I got an invite from a friend but so far I’ve not gotten any responses to the “queries” I’ve submitted in an attempt to get answers to a few questions before I fund my account. Its been over a week and still no responses have been posted to my questions. I believe they are legit but customer service seems non-existent..Is this a one man/woman shop?? I’m interesting to hear what people think..By the way, the question I submitted were as followings:

    1) Is there a minimum placement amount? If so, what is it?

    2) What’s the email address for customer service?

    3) What’s the fastest method for contacting customer service? (Queries, Email, Phone etc.)

    4) Is there any past performance data available to new members?

    5) Is there any machanism in place for members to receive the balance of there accounts in the event the MayDaisy is dissolved?

  255. Kareen said,

    October 4, 2007 at 2:23 pm

    1. Hi Dave,
    I am currently a member of Higgins Warner Group. Based on my experience and that of other investors that I personally know, they are very much ligit. They have an office here in Montego Bay at Baywest Plaza. They came to Jamaica in February 2007. I understand that they have been around since 1991.
    They do give a 20% returns monthly. I already receive my second return. I know persons who have already gone through the 6 months and further. The contract lasted for 6 months. It is up to you to roll over your principal if you like. In this case, you would need to notify them at least 2 weeks prior to the maturity date. If not, they will be wiring your principal to you. At that time it would be up to you to start a new contract if you like.
    They are simply borrowing our money and share the profit with us. They have invested in Sports (see info on site about the World football Idol in Argentina) Read more on the site. Max Higgins is the president of the Organisation.
    They are in Fashion, Entertainment, Music, Movies, etc. You can call their office here or Argentina if you so desire. One of their recent investments is in two hotels at Disney inclusive of a Casino.
    They have great plans in the pipeline. If you are interested in this investment you can contact me at kphilbrown@gmail.com Also on the site there exist a way that you can contact them for Information. Best of luck

  256. Andre said,

    October 4, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Hello everyone just curious: Please find a few questions below

    1. What is you monthly interest return US OR JA?

    2. Where did you get the money to invest?

    3. How has this money made your life better?

    4. How much money would you risk if you had more?

    5. What monthly % would make you quit your day job?

  257. curious said,

    October 4, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    ans:
    1. JA$20000.00

    2. Savings

    3.Still waiting to recoup 100% of interest before getting comfortable

    4. US$5000.00

    5. looking for at least 15% per month —- not quitting my day job

  258. Mark said,

    October 4, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Hi Dave,

    I (through an agent) can provide you with all the information/documentation that you need about Higgins Warner Group. It is legit and is going extremely well. I know one the agents personally that work for the Jamaica Office, he deals with clients both in Jamiaca and Worldwide. I can arrange for him to contact you by phone/email/in person or you can send me your email and I send you his details for you to contact him.

    Email me at: linkupgt@yahoo.com

  259. Kevin said,

    October 4, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    Does anyone know olint’s return for september? Is it out yet?

  260. Phillip said,

    October 4, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Anyone have any ideas when OLINT will be opening new accounts? I am currently investing with them through a friend who has an account there and he is taking 2-3% off the top. Its not a bad deal (I made 10% for September), but it would be nice to make the full amount.
    Thanks,
    Phill

  261. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:12 pm

    13.24% Kevin

  262. Spirit said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Hey Anthony

    Can you let me in on that back door link to Olint. I am sure they are not just playing dead waiting for the JA Courts Sys to tell them when to start business again.

  263. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    You just got to get on someones account it is as simple as that.

  264. Anthony said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    That is a long time investor, I am just koching as they would say. However the ride seems to be getting sweeter.

  265. Dominik said,

    October 4, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    #260 Phillip, I am not sure when OLINT will be opening new accounts. The other option is LewFam Club. They trade through OLINT and the return for this month was 11.93% (1.31% off the top). It’s less than the 2-3% that your friend is taking off the top. Also, if you refer someone LewFam gives you 5% of your referrals total gain (not the principal) each month. If you need more info, just send me an e-mail dswabes@comcast.net

  266. Peter said,

    October 4, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    Hi there,
    I got some information on WorldWise, however more background would be needed. Does anybody have some insight, background knowledge? I would also appreciate opinions.
    Thanks in advance
    Peter

  267. Junior said,

    October 4, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    #254 Is it possible for me to get an invite to Maydaisy? I’ve heard they’ve been around since 2004 and doing quite well. Operating from Turks & Caicos like Olint. However, they have managed to remain under the radar. I spoke to someone who has been investing with them indirectly (through an agent) for the past two years and it has been going pretty well.

    Please send referral info, this would be greatly appreciated.

    carter_junior@hotmail.com

  268. Peter said,

    October 4, 2007 at 11:41 pm

    Does anybody have an opinion on WorldWise?
    Peter

  269. JK said,

    October 5, 2007 at 2:12 am

    peter what have you heard about world wise?

  270. Powder said,

    October 5, 2007 at 2:51 am

    Mr. Investor:
    Do you know what is Careif is and what they do?

  271. Natalie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 2:58 am

    Mr. Investor:

    About Worldwise, you are saying they are not ligitimate, so take off my money and run. I have been in it since September and gotten my first interest but I let it roll over. I am begining to regret it. I am fretting. I am new in the business of investing my money. I am afraid of Cash Plus because if it goes down you loose everything. Worldwise said if they go down you get back 80%. but base on your comment earlier, I am begining to wonder. I am now confused. Should I take off my money now and put it back into the bank? You are saying the man is a thief and he is waiting to take everyone money and run. If he scamed you out of $3m why do they allow him to operate again. What is the best investment you can advise me to go into?

  272. Natalie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 3:01 am

    Anthony or Mark:
    Can you give me information on what May Daisy or Onlint is? I am at a loss at what you all are talking. Where can you find this investment company? Do they have a telephone number? What is their investment like? How much money one have to invest? Where are there offices? What are they all about?

  273. Dionne said,

    October 5, 2007 at 3:04 am

    I am too is in Worldwise, should I take my money and run Mr. Investor? Do you think he will try something crooked again? What dont you take him to court for your $3m. He is still here you know. Seriously though, what do you think I should do with my mone at worldwise? Should I take it and run. I am not willing to gamble my money, I work too hard for it and I am poor.

  274. Dionne said,

    October 5, 2007 at 3:34 am

    What is Lew Fam Club, May daisy, Onlint and Higgins Warner. I need info on all of them. I want to join. Give me all the info anyone can give. Do they have a office in Jamaica and telephone number also website. What are the minimum you can invest? Email me at Jhevereann@yahoo.com

  275. Anthony said,

    October 5, 2007 at 4:32 am

    Mr Investor you are causing the boat to rock and I presume you have nothing to lose because you already did. I only hope you are not just soliciting business for the other investment houses. You see unlike you I have something to lose. I also hope you are someone of integrity and not pulling a con. Natalie read the opening remarks by our host and you should have a better understanding.

  276. JK said,

    October 5, 2007 at 5:15 am

    u mekin me have second thoughts although i know ppl with millions in world wise

  277. Mr. Investor said,

    October 5, 2007 at 11:07 am

    Anthony, my main investments are in real estate I buy properties in preconstruction hold for 3-4 yrs then sell for profit. Two yrs ago I invested with Olint that is as far as I go with “high risk investments” I am in no way soliciting investments for them as you already know they are not taking any new ones.In regards to my money that I havnt received yet from this fellow there will be further action against him.

    I would like to point out that anyone can register a company a company being registered does not mean it is totally ligit.If you are guaranteed 80% how is the money insured? you see people can tell you anything I thought my investment was in concrete which should of been the safest investment.All I can say to you all is again DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE this is only to help you if only someone warned me.
    I know no more than you about Carief , you see David Smith and Olint has made it so easy now for criminals to take advantage of the situation.and they will. All I am saying is take into consideration the type of people your are investing with be sure they are of good integrity if there is any doubt I would suggest you stay out

  278. Mr. Investor said,

    October 5, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Dionne I know you have an appetite for risk, but I honestly think that with worldwise the risk is much much higher. Once a thief always a thief I have learnt that the hard way. Do not be gullible to these opportunistic people whos intentions are for us to part with our hard earned money using any means necessary to solicite funds.

  279. Dionne said,

    October 5, 2007 at 11:45 am

    what does DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE means?

  280. Mr. Investor said,

    October 5, 2007 at 11:55 am

    Do your research

  281. Mr. Skeptic said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    Mr. Investor I have heard all your concerns and your advice is sound but two years ago when someone came to you and told you about OLINT, and that they were too good to be true and with the highest returns known, you must have had your doubts but yet still you invested with them, you took the risk and gained a reward, thats why its not called savings but an investment! I had to comment because before becoming a member of OLINT i had many negative reactions from trusted people, now I have found out that many of these people were already members and all they gave was negative advice!
    My advice to everyone regarding Wwise, cashplus, Higgins is simply, look out for ponzi like institutions and then do not invest what you are not willing to loose.
    PS always remember one thing about riches, it doesnt like company, thats why the rich will stay rich and the poor….poor. Happy investing.

  282. Anthony said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    Mr Investor your tolerance level is really amazing, or 3 mil is just a drop in the bucket for you. I mean with the type of business I see going at worldwise I am sure if you went there early one morning with say your placard and a few friends for back up, don’t you think your problem could be resolved one way or the other. I mean I would be more satisfied even if I did not get my money back. After all it seems to me that it really is not about the money anymore, it is the principle of how this man took your money.

  283. Mr. Investor said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Mr Skeptic before I invested with Olint I first did a background check on the chairman David Smith found out that he is a true forex trader who was very successful at making a constant profit for JMMB.I actually found people who new him personally and not one person had anything bad to say about him he was once a hard working 9-5 person like most of us. On the otherhand Wwise chairman as far as my research goes there is no ligit background for him I know not of any successful business that he has ran, I know not of any job position that he has held all I hear is bad news.

  284. Mr. Investor said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    Anthony finally I think you understand what im saying. I am not one to handle situations like that I will let the laws deal with it

  285. Dionne said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    Mr. Investor;
    Why dont you make it publicly know that this man is a thief? Since he scamed you, shouldn’t there be other people that he does that to? I dont hear any other persons with this. All who he scamed should let it publicly known, so that he can scan no more. The proper authorities should know so they make it publicly know and shut down his operations before it does much damage. The newpapers should know about him. How can be scam you and other people for that matter and be allowed to start another operations. He should be allowed to do that. I am going to withdrew my money at the end of this month and let the newspaper know about his dishonesty and the proper authorities. Someone should expose him before it is too late. In the mean time I will not invest with anyone, I will put my money back into the bank and take the little interest I get and be satisfied because to me all of these investments are high risk. thanks

  286. Natalie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Yea Mr. Investor you should publicly know that this man is a scam cause I have my money into it, I am going to call the office and let them know I know what this man is all about. Others should know too. Where are the other people he scamed, they should come forward because it cannot be you alone that he does this to. People work hard for there money, he should not be allowed to do this to anyone else, I may call the authorities and let them know what this man is all about. Sorry about your loss but you should take it up with him in court.

  287. Natalie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:49 pm

    Mr. Investor:
    Who do you hear these man news from? I would like to hear too from someone else apart from you.

  288. Ann said,

    October 5, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Mr. Investor, I sympathise with you, but I think you should honestly let everyone in Jamaica knows what this man is capable of. I mean people have invested millions and it cant be you alone that he did this to, if he is a scamist he must have done this to other people; where are they? why dont they come out publicly and talk and let the world knows what type of man he is and let people withdraw they money. Do the right thing Mr. Investor and let the public know about him. I would. First start with the Newspaper, they the news. people will listen. I sure of it.

  289. Peter said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Natalie,
    thanks for your comments. First of all, let’s ask how in the world can anybody make a profit of 200-300% per annum? WorldWise gives you in writing that they pay 12% on a monthly basis, if you roll over you double in 6 month and if you roll over again for another fretty 6 month this doubles again.
    Well, when it comes to Lewfam, I know that they are in the stock and currency market and if you use powerful software you can do well in daytrading and that is how Lewfam (and others) do it… as I hear from friends, which have invested in Lewfam since a good time.

    What concerns me with WorlWise is that the Web page does not say a word and all that comes up is some little link to a rea estate company.

    This lack of information was the reason to put my questions on the web to hear around if there is some substantial information. I am afraid that the system of WorlWise will crash, however when? Until then one can make a bag of money, however only if you get out early enough.

    Maybe you set a dateline and or deadline such as: I double and then I will be out of here.
    Cheers
    Peter

  290. Susan said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    That’s right Mr. Investor, I am in worldwise too and I am having second thoughts, dont be selfish, let the public know what this man is capable of. Tell the whole Jamaica and let them all withdraw from him.

  291. Anthony said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    I watch with awe as you cause the boat to rock a little harder. Reminds of when I had all the eggs in cash plus and I use to hear all sorts of negative news. Being tolerant when it comes to risk I continued adding so far no regrets. One who is afraid to lose should keep there money very close to them and should be able to continue buying bread and water for the rest of their life. I work hard and continue to work hard and I am great full of the many options re high risk to actually give my money the chance to do some of the hard work. My advice to investors split the risk in different companies.

  292. Peter said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    A comment:
    I like your posts guys and i pick up that there is the question of sharing information. This is the main reason why people as you and me post on a chat-site, the sum of all information creates a picture, which might help you in your decision making progress.

    My concern with Lewfam for example is how one transfers money to them in the far-off St. Lucia: via banks in the US and Europe. I am sure it’s save for Lewfam, however if you would ever want your money back…..???
    Cheers
    Peter

  293. Peter said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Question to Mr. Skeptic:
    Can you explain what you mean with ponzi-like institutions, thanks
    Peter

  294. Patricia said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    This board is truly amazing…wonderful job Andre…

    I’ve been wondering about a few things..does anyone know what if any tax implications exists with regards to these earnings? I dont think there is any capital gains tax in Ja, and I dont think witholding tax is applicable to these clubs, that’s good. However, I’m sure tyat as a part of the Govt new tax strategies they are going to try to capture some of this cash.

    Another question, is given that all this explosive returns, is like a windfall for many, how is this money being used to enhance not only personal quality of life, but the country as a whole. It would be great if people made good use of the funds and not just engage in a comsumption frenzy. Christmas is coming and many will be very cashy…spend wisely and help out a few.

    Finally, everyone should invest cautiously…yes due dilligence is critical, spreadn the risk to minimize losses and don’t have too much funds hold up in any one investment, convert some liquidity periodically into other investments, preferably real estate……..Continue the dialoque…

    Cheers

  295. Patricia said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Oh, btw Peter it is possible with forex tarding to make a profit of 200-300% annually, but it’s not easy, depends on a number of factors..the problem with wwise is that you just dont know what they are doing, also it is a point to consider that they are aggresively trying to get new funds. Also with forex beware of guaranteed monthly returns, especially in excess of 8-10% pa, the bigger the profi, the bigger the risks and potentially losses.

  296. Angie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Thank you for the information on your website. Can you give me the website for Worldwise so that I can begin my due dilegence? Thanks

  297. Angie said,

    October 5, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Can anyone provde me information or a referral into May Daisy? Thanks

  298. Peter said,

    October 5, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Angie,
    Worldwise website:
    http://www.worldwisepartner.com
    Peter

  299. Caribbeanero said,

    October 5, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    Can anybody share their experience they made with May Daisy? so far, i only read that their administrative office seem a little slow… how about profits?
    what’s the minimum balance required?
    thnx

  300. Peter said,

    October 5, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    Patricia,
    can you explain the Forex thing?
    Thanks
    Peter

  301. Patricia said,

    October 5, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    Peter,

    In the interest of time check out http://www.forextrading.com…..

    when the FSC shutdown Olint, and talked all their nonsense they didn’y have a clue about what they were doing…….FX is legit, no scam, and traders like David Smith are a God send. The Govt was out of their league.

    David has over 10 yrs trading..and on the international circles it is said he is one of the world’s top 5 traders. He also doesn’t take unneccessary risks and only trades up to 20% of your account, so the balance is not risked.

    With FX you can win big or lose your shirt…but after much training and practical experience you can become amazingly profitable. Check it out

  302. Junior said,

    October 5, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Can anyone provide referral information to May Daisy.
    I may be contacted at carter_junior@hotmail.com

  303. Mr. C said,

    October 5, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Things that make you go mmmmm………
    1) World Wise (WW) and Cash Plus (CP) both pay flat rates per month
    2) I asked them (WW) and was told that they do currency trading (up to you to believe it or not)
    3) Can anyone tell me what CP does, to be able to pay 10% per month?

    4) WW has a tier payment system…..6% between… and 12% above….. Personally I think this is smart because if the money is pooled then those who invest between $300-$1499 their funds still earn the same as the man that invest $1500 and above earns. This means there will be excess to complement the others.
    5) CP is buying out Jamaica but can; Hotel, airline, hardware store, phone card, the NPL etc. generate 10% per month?
    6) Noel Strachan has basically been labelled a thief here. Has anyone ever googled Carlos Hill? All we know he is a former mortgage banker…….try searching by google for Carlos Hill / mortgage (don’t know if this is the same person, I have never met the man).

    7) Again CP increased their rate structure recently did WW do the same? I really don’t know, I don’t call anymore, I just check my account once per month. So if this is the case please tell
    8) Those who are skeptical about WW need not bother to consider Maydaisy becasue Chris in post 254 said he got referral but still no info for over a week.
    Peter asked about currency trading to be explained, I suggest you search it online. it would be difficult to explain in detail here. Just search Forex trading and you will get myriad of info.
    However for those of us who have an idea what it entails do you realy think that David, Noel, or anyother forex club actually does the trading alone? No they employ traders to assist with this……….David is good no doubt be he does not trade alone. Could any of his former traders be at WW now?

    Anthony you said it best spread the RISK or stay out
    Mr. Investor if your case is before the court please be careful, I would not want you to have the upper hand and give it up by what you say here.(although honestly I would really want to hear more)

    Hope these questions comments were of help to someone

    ps. I am not employed nor do I have a vested interest in these investment house, just an investor who risking a bit towards my pension.

  304. Mark said,

    October 5, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Peter,

    A compnay that operates under a Ponzi Scheme is a company that takes your money and have no true intentions of investing that money or using that money to make a profit.

    Hence the only way they can pay out the returns quoted, is taking money from paul to pay peter. Now if money stops going into the company then they have no one to take the money from hence that company will crash.

    The name is derived from a guy name Ponzi that started that concept sometime ago hence the name Ponzi Scheme.

    For example look at OLINT they stop takig investors over a year now and they have not collapsed because its no Ponzi and David Smith is a honest man that wants to see the small man prospers.

  305. Mr. C said,

    October 5, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    Careful Mark no new customer does not imply no new money. infact it would be interesting to find out funds under management before they stopped taking new customers and compare it to now. ( Ok ok i know it would not be a fair comparison as funds are compounded etc but the bottomline is more persons went in thru the back door + increase in existing funds.) No folks i am not saying it is a ponzi scheme but Mark’s statement does not prove its not based on his definition above.

  306. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 5, 2007 at 7:44 pm

    This has been a very informative site, Juliet where are you ? I enjoyed your interaction with VMS about the great Max Higgings. Thanks VMS for coming forward and providing clarity.
    I see where a lot of people would like to be rich without hard work or working smart, or persuing knowledge to attain such goals and fundamentals.
    Here are some everyday rules common rules. more profits = more risks, we are in a capitalists arena where only 5 % of the population are allowed to be rich, The bok of Proverbs ( by solomon the wise) writes wealth that is hastily made stands a good chance of loosing quickly, One should therefore go slowly and plan like the principles of the ant. The difference between the rich and poor is education and always always remember common sense.
    It would appear as if Olin is the darling and most eperienced of all the currency traders and something went wrong with them where they are now in court. Could someone who is familiar with the case explains the status .Thanks for you anticipated coorperation.

  307. VMS said,

    October 5, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    I heard that the owner of the UGI Group -Neville Blithe is also behind WorldWise .. he was also owner of CVM TV. If he is, then for me it lends some credibility to the company. Seeing he his a good business man. Can anyone clarify this for me.

  308. Mr. C said,

    October 5, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    VMS my investigation reveals the same. In terms of clarity what i do know is that persons thought it was Lee Chin behind WW, however when Mr. Blithe sold UGI he to Lee Chin it did not include the UGI investments. i became curious while browsing WW site (not remembering exactly where now) and saw UGI popping up over and over. Hope this helps

  309. Irons said,

    October 5, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    I’m a first timer to this site and think its great. I have been an investor in Worldwise for 3 months now and the only problem I have is the delay in transferring my interest to the bank. On the last occasion I had to go in and pick up a check. Does anybody have information on HigginsWarner? I want to expand my investment? Can anyone refer me to MayDaisy? Good looking out for each other.

  310. Peter said,

    October 6, 2007 at 12:27 am

    Patricia and Mark,
    many thanks for your valuable information. I appreciate.
    Cheers for a good weekend
    Peter

  311. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 1:36 am

    Mr. Investor:
    You have not answer any of my questions earlier by going public to let everyone knows that Noel is a con artist. If your case is in court, the papers should know about it. Dont you think?

  312. DG said,

    October 6, 2007 at 1:42 am

    Just who exactly, is the con artist?

  313. lover said,

    October 6, 2007 at 1:58 am

    mr investor seems to be a “island”….lol

  314. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:02 am

    Guys I new to this site. But I am investing my money into Careif. They deals with real estate. You invest $200.000.00 and get $1.200.000.00 in three years, plus you get US$5,400.00 for life and a chance at one of there houses. If you are a civil servant you pay $100,000.00 but you will only get the $1.200.000.00 in 3 years. If you want a chance for a house you need to pay US$1,200.00 to the club to get the benefit. If you have a registered land, they will build for you also. They are presently putting a site in Havendale and another in Clarendon in January. All who want more info can go to http://www.careif.com Their office is in New Kingston on Knutzford Blvd., I think this is a good investment. Visit their website before you make judgement

  315. Susan said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:04 am

    Guys do you know that neither Cash Plus or Worldwise is register with the FSC. Why is that?

  316. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:06 am

    DG
    ask Mr. Investor. To me con artist, theif means the same thing. Mr. Investor said Noel of WW is

  317. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:10 am

    Correction: you get US$5,400 every 3 years for the rest of your life time

  318. mark said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:11 am

    I hear Lee Chin is coming out with a product that offers 15%. Can anyone confirm this.

  319. lover said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:18 am

    nm is this investment ligit ?

  320. lover said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:21 am

    andre what’s ur take on carief investment plan ?

  321. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:22 am

    Mr. C what is the website for MayDaisy, Olint and HigginsWarner?

  322. Orel B said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:56 am

    Hey u all great comments, constructive. My take on this whole investment scheme is all investments require risk , the greater the returns the higher the risk. If you are going to risk a portion of your money and you can’t sleep at nights comfortable then don’t risk it, or else it will affect every area of your life.Do your research and when you are comfortable with any of those investment house invest , prepare for the worse,hope for only the best. In the market of investment risk is ever present and everything will be going good and then suddenly changes. It doesn’t mean that the guys incharge are con artist or didn’t have good intentions. sometimes we gain other time we lose. Remember now risk is always present in every business The rich guys are always prepare to take the risk and launch out in the deep and they are always successful in doing this maybe it’s difficult for us poor guys to take risk and relax ourselves. we are thinking that we work too hard to risk our money and lose it, think positive.Let’s take a leaf out of Donald Trump book.

  323. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:08 am

    Orel B
    good Comments. Good night

  324. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:10 am

    Lover
    Yes it is, so far so good. Quite a lot of people I know is in it. You wont get returns every month like the other investments only at the end of the 3 year period

  325. zoff said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:52 am

    I need a reference for Maydaisy, please help?

  326. zoff said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:54 am

    reference needed for maydaisy, please send info to dwynt@hotmail.com

  327. Anthony said,

    October 6, 2007 at 7:22 am

    Went to c plus today as in the 5th the new rates seem to be causing quite a buzz. It seems to me that new and people wanting to add r easier to get this rate. However i was told that very soon old investors will be able to change contract. Could someone tell me their experience with worldwise since c plus launched that attack on them? Also what bank does worldwise draw their checks at. Anybody with ideas how to beat the banks re them always wanting to charge for everything over a $1000 US. I am really getting tired of that one.

  328. Mr. C said,

    October 6, 2007 at 10:56 am

    NM#321
    http://www.higginswarner.com/
    http://www.overseaslocket.com
    http://www.maydaisy.com

    overseaslocket (Olint) and Maydaisy requires you to be a club member in order for you to have access to their site.

  329. Higgins said,

    October 6, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Good day,
    I’m a member of HW and let me tell you this, its the real deal!!
    As Kareen and others said its just as good and reputable as Olint & Lewfam.
    All info on higgin Warner has already been give here so i’ll just add if you want further info or to become a member you can check the sites or contact me or kareen or any other member.

    My email is hgdon@hotmail.com

    All the best

  330. Mr. Investor said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    I see where someone said something about Neville Blythe being apart of WW this is very funny to me . He has denied being apart of this company and only reffers clients of ugi for a commission as far as I hear.

  331. Mr. C said,

    October 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Thanx for the clarity Mr. Investor.

  332. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    Mr. Invester
    Why haven’t you answer my questions. You are so bitter against Noel, why don’t you go public with what he did to you and make other people knows what he really is, after all poor people invest their money with his company. For a man that someone owes $3ml, you are sure taking it easy. I would be chanting and would contact every news media and newspaper to let everyone know about him, when I am finish he cant get any other persons money to steal. You should do the right thing and let the public knows

  333. NM said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    Thanks mr. C

  334. Susan said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    Anthony:
    Business as usual at WW, pack just the same. Remember at Cash Plus all you money is at risk. I wouldn’t leave the promised 80% to go to one that doesn’t.. To me all of these investment company is in it for themselves. By the way what’s the minimum US$ you must invest and what the rate Anthony?

  335. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    You seems to want to answer other questions but mine. Why?

  336. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Mr. Investor, you seems to want to answer other questions but mine. Why?

  337. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Andre’ what your take on Cash Plus and especially Worldwise. Do you share the same feeing as Mr. Investor. Do you know about Careif. Someone memtioned it earlier. What’s your take on it?

  338. lover said,

    October 6, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    could someone share cash plus new rates……….

  339. Natalie said,

    October 6, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    yes, could someone share cash plus new rates and the minimum for their US$ investment please

  340. Anthony said,

    October 6, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    # 230 has the rates the first two columns r for JA $100,000 second two columns US $3,000 and the last two covers pound and Canadian however i never inquired for the latter rate .

  341. Chris said,

    October 6, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    MayDaisy Update..A few people had asked me for a MayDaisy referral but unfortunately I cant give any at the moment since my account hasn’t been funded. Also, I was finally able to talk to somebody at MayDaisy and was able to get most of my questions answered. Anyway, I decided to take the MayDaisy plung and soo I’ll let you guys know how it goes and when I’m able to refer anyone. As far as WW, I’m gonna make a little money ride there and see what happens. But I must emphasize what others here have said..DONT RISK WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE! Because no matter what they tell you about 20% max loss and blah blah blah..these are investment companies! so whether it is OLINT, MayDaisy, WW, CP, HW, or Mr. Chin(whoever that is..lol), there is still no guarantee you will even see your money again..I know this is not probably, but still very possible..an offshore investment account and a local savings account are NOT interchangable :) Ok since I’m in somewhat of a rambling mood I’ll also like to add its not all about the getting the highest interest rate..I’ve dealt with Lewfam, MaisyDaisy and WW…And even though Lewfam’s rate seems to be the lowest(sometimes), I’d still invest more with them than with any of the other..Why? They seem to have the best transparency(historical performance data), customer service(phone and email), security screening(against “money washing”), and track record…This is just based on my experience, but I’m sure others have different opinions..Ok, this ends my rambling for today..Happy investing and try not to lose your shirt :)

  342. Basil said,

    October 6, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Hi guys. Any one able to give me a reference to maydaisy?
    My email address…oneillbaspol@bellsouth.net

  343. Nes said,

    October 6, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Need reference for Maydaisy, please help? shishi_jamaicanbrat@yahoo.com

  344. Anthony said,

    October 6, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Susan for me it all started with cash plus as a matter of fact 2005 October was my first deposit. I have since been able to practically fund any new investment I choose to go in because of the incredible interest I have made. I am not promoting for any particular investment house because although the contract wwise says 80%, the only way they will have 80% is if they only gamble 20% of your money. I do not know if they are holding up their end of the bargain by doing this because after all their is no one or comp. I know regulating them. That is the reason I say again that I have since worked a strategy by preparing to accept loss from say one of my investment and run for the others.I am contemplating to fix just one of my accounts at c plus and believe me it will not go beyond 6 months. Fellow investors let us all remember “The higher monkey climb a the more him batty expose” also “Mosquito can share but the elephant cant share”. Another strategy I have worked out is to keep constant checks with comp. my money is in because my comfort level is up when i see knew clients and down when the place is becoming scanty. If it is a Peter pay Paul I am in not knowing, I would prefer to be Paul and if the worst happens I extend a hand of comfort to Peter. However I remain positive and realistic.

  345. Mr. Investor said,

    October 6, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    Natalie sorry for not responding to your question. I think it would be stupid to do that, there would be lawsuits ontop of lawsuits ontop of lawsuits. I hope you understand what im getting at. Im sure there must be people out there in Ja that is having the same problem but if you know the system in Ja you know it takes time and there is alot of loop holes in that system …Pj Patterson said the law is not a shackle and in Ja I do believe this is true

  346. JK said,

    October 6, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    irons- u say the only problem is the delay in picking up interest at world wise……….how long does it take generally?

  347. Developer said,

    October 6, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    Hello Everyone: How would you rate these investment houses from a scale of 1-10.
    I think this would give allot of us more insight before investing.

    Andre if you are listening we need to have a voting poll system on the site so we can take a vote and see what the board thinks about these investments.

    Hope to get some feedback on this issue.

  348. David said,

    October 6, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    I would like some info on maydaisy. I found the web site but you cant get on unless you are a member. Any one with info can send it to pork.chop10@hotmail.com Thanks

  349. Pat said,

    October 6, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    I got this directly from cash plus. I hope it comes out clear and I hope it’s helpful. The minimum US investment is $2500.00 and you can sign up on the website effective last Monday. For those who are already in the plan but you are depositing US now, you can just open a new account via the Web. I believe they said if you already have a JA account and you want to switch, then you’re gonna have to wait until they call you.

    see instructions below:
    Dear Pat,

    The following are the necessary requirements for our International Clients:
    referral from a notary public (JA-Lawyer,Police,Minister of Religion)
    picture identification
    Taxpayers Registration Number (If available)

    Procedure:
    apply online
    wire transfer funds directly to our account (wire transfer information
    will be provided upon request)-minimum US$2,500.00
    fax copy of wire transfer receipt to Cash Plus Limited
    contract will be prepared and sent by FedEx for you signature

    Cash Plus Limited pays a monthly consideration of 10%.

    You will be unable to withdraw the principal amount for a period of three
    months. If you wish to do so after this period, ten business days notice is
    required.

    Should you require additional information, feel free to email us.

    Please see the attached rate sheet

    CONSIDERATION SCHEDULE

    Type Period JA Dollars US Dollars CAD /Pound sterl.
    Monthly Rollover Monthly Rollover Monthly Rollover
    A 3 Months10% 12% 8% 10% 7% 9%
    B 6 Months11% 14% 9% 12% 8 11%
    C1 Year 12% 15% 10% 13% 9% 12%
    D2 Years 13% 16% 11% 14% 10% 13%
    E3 Years 14% 17% 12% 15% 11% 14%
    F5 Years 15% 18% 13% 16% 12% 15%

  350. Anthony said,

    October 6, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    Hey guys have you ever checked this site, http://www.babypips.com For all the new comers to risky investment maybe you could learn a thing or two. Who knows if one is so inclined maybe one could start trading for one’s self. Although I must admit I prefer doing my day job and leave the trading to the so called experts. Their is one other observation i would like a few comments on and that is that we men are more inclined to these investments than our women. In my experience of telling friends about options re these investment I find the women to be less gullible. Give me a shout on your observation.

  351. Irons said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:35 am

    After a couple days if the money is not sent to the bank you can go in and ask for a cheque. There is usually not much delay in getting a cheque once you go in office.

  352. Natalie said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:02 am

    Mr. Investor for me I would not care. If there is other people like you, you have gotten burned, I sure they would want to know about it, then you would not be alone. After all $3ml is a lot of money and from you are telling the true, you will be the one placing the law suit

  353. Developer said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:09 am

    Anyone knows any good Attorneys in Jamaica I have a similar situation to Mr. Investor
    $ 2.6mil being owed to me and I cannot get it. How should I proceed with this?

    Thanks

  354. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:12 am

    Anthony no firm regulates cash plus either. I called around.

  355. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:13 am

    who owe you

  356. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:31 am

    Anyone, what’s cashplus website

  357. Spirit said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:44 am

    http://www.cashplusgroup.com

  358. Spirit said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:45 am

    http://www.cashplusltd.com

  359. zoff said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:58 am

    would u believe that if u invest $200,000 @ cash plus for 3yrs @17%
    rollover u earn $56,979,812.86. Is this for real!!!!! I can’t believe this.
    What cash plus has done is to structure its risk, so it can pay its creditors(us) by using new monies. I would not invest for more than 2yrs. give your comments.

  360. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 7, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    People,be wise and be careful. most of you have forgotten commonsense and are too gullable.
    This is nothing but an upscale Pyramid ponzi scheme and it is just a matter of time before chickens come home to roost. There are confederate defending the pyramid in order to protect their own interest. As long as new money is comming into the pyramid the scheme will stay alive. Have you ever heard of the pyramid where only the people up front will be ok but the suckers who come in onthe tail end will get burnt, also the people up front is encouraged to bring in new customers in order to keep the scheme alive.
    Does anyone remember some banks in Jamaica about 10 years or so who offered very attractive interest rates the went out of buisness. People you are foretting common sense and are too gullable, you will get chocke. remember the saying craven will choke puppy. It is mathematically impossible for any investment club in the world to constantly give 10 % or more per month irrespective of how brilliant management may be. 10 to 25 % per year is ussually the normal expection. Not 20 to 20 % per month, This is why the club that offers the return of $ 5400 has returns over a 3 year period seems fair and legitimate. Again be careful of this 10% per month!!!!!
    I will write back to you within half hour to give you a few web sites where you can all read and become wiser and will help make a better judgement call.
    A gain, as I said in my former piece (306) , the difference between rich and poor is education not forbetting common sense. remember a fool and his money will soon part.be careful and ussually if it is too good to be true it ussually is. I will be back in a few minutes and remember the confederates who are among us.

  361. Anthony said,

    October 7, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Susan earlier when I said them, I was referring to all three companies I am involved with cash p, wwise and olint. You see in my book none is really safer than the other, although in my opinion olints fluctuating interest should give him more leverage. In life it is not generally what you work that gives you financial security but what you are able to save, like wise if we all invest and are able to say pull off some or all and say lock some in real estate and other lucrative investment that r more secure we would have come out the victor. Guys I am really hoping to have that discipline and say no one of these days but I must admit it is hard to say no to more money when you were not born with a gold spoon in mouth. I will continue to spread the chips re the risk.

  362. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 7, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Education- aasignment for all of you. I am giving you two websites to go and read or research, Google “Long Term Capital” and When Genius fails.
    Long term capital consist of some of the most brilliant minds in trading, they were cosidered genius, they won the nobleprize in economics and they failed. You can buy the book ‘When Genius failed” for US$10. But you all will find the 2 abovementioned websites very informative. Later I will give you a some more assignments to read where in a single day a top trader made 1 Billion Dollar in a single day and almost Bankrupt the Bank Of England where your former Queen Elizabeth is a customer.you should also read Forex Scams. Good luck to all who are gullable to become rich in a huury and woe be unto the ignorant and the uneducated and mercy to the educated who have forgotten common sense .
    The above billion dollar trade was US$10billion was used to trade against the british pound and the bank of England lost the trade.
    Later in life the same winner of that billion dollar trade lost a lot of investors money. The fund was US$26 Billion and It’s down to US$6 Billion. The fund manager was asked to do a mental examination but he refused.
    Remeber ,if the expectations are for high returns the risks are high, this has been the fudamental- foundation law from the beginning of time. One can and should never expect the returns to be unreasonably high and expect to get back their pricipal (100% )at most times. Whatch greedy factor that is embedded in you.

  363. Macky said,

    October 7, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Hi Guys – I am a member of Maydaisy but unfortunately I don’t feel comfortable referring anybody I don’t know because of my past experience with Swisscash :-( :-( Maydaisy is getting very popular now so I am sure you will get your referral sooner than later. Good luck!!

  364. Anthony said,

    October 7, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    Susan check this one cashplusja.com , also I have a tidy sum with worldwise and gave them a call yesterday to find the best time to say pull some and still get the months interest on what I pulled .I was told that although I am in my third month if I pulled say the 15th I would lose all the interest for what I pulled for that month and I would still be charged the 1% penalty. However if I say pulled the 25th or 26th and with the waiting period to get the check, should be able to get all interest for the month. I misunderstood the contract I signed I thought that 1% was only for the first month.

  365. Anthony said,

    October 7, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    Susan I have a tidy sum with worldwise and gave them a call yesterday to find the best time to say pull some and still get the months interest on what I pulled .I was told that although I am in my third month if I pulled say the 15th I would lose all the interest for what I pulled for that month and I would still be charged the 1% penalty. However if I say pulled the 25th or 26th and with the waiting period to get the check, should be able to get all interest for the month. I misunderstood the contract I signed I thought that 1% was only for the first month.

  366. Junior said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    Macky, please send referral information. I too got bit by the Swisscash bug, however I would still like to know what MayDaisy is all about.

    carter_junior@hotmail.com

  367. Natale said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    That’s the way to go Pound Cat Ridge. You are so correct. Some thing it’s Worldwise who is the ponzi, but all of them is the same. That’s Careif you offer returns every 3 years. If you invest JA$200,000.00 in 3 years you get $1.2000,000.00 and US$5,400.00 (this US$ is for life). I also think this is Ligit.

  368. Anthony said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Susan some clarity needed, what do u understand this to mean?
    Penalties under Partnership Agreement.
    You agree that for whatever reason you need to withdraw your money before the maturity date which is thirty calender days after the receipt of the funds then you will forfeit your profits and be charged a 1% ( one percent of the withdrawal amount) fee for early withdrawal.

  369. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Macky I have a friend who is in Swisscash and I never hear her complain. She only said their website is down

  370. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Macky, what’s your problem with swisscash?

  371. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    I understand Anthony what you said. I too am in WW. for for me to get my cash back without penality of interest is to withdraw on the 25th or 26th of the month.

  372. Anthony said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    After being at wwise from August I thought I had passed the thirty calender days mentioned and thus was prepared to lose interest for the portion to be taken but not to be charged a penalty.

  373. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    I have heard that some people who were in Swiss cash have had very bad experience and have loss plenty of money. There was a gentleman in the Florida area who were piloting the scheme by recruiting investors and the whole thing blew up. one of the investors who almost got caught up the the swiss cash debatle is now with worldwise and claim to be doing very well with them and swear that they are above board. That’s what I was told. I have not add or subtract anything. again good luck.

  374. Mr. Investor said,

    October 7, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Developer, does this same guy owe you?

  375. DG said,

    October 7, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    I have a friend in Swiss Cash and she tells me she gets her money. Apparently, the problem is with people who signed up with copycat organisations claiming to be agents of swiss cash (in other words – imposters).

  376. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 7, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    The greatest wepon you all have to survive in this era and for self defense angainst the enemy or the con man is your ability to read and be able to determine right from wrong so that one can not be fooled. The greatest sense one has is common sense. Sometimes the person who did not have the oppertunity to read is smater than those who can.
    Here is a website for you all to read about swiss cash, more that the confederates may want you to know. Blessed is the internet.
    Use search engine Google and look up Swiss Cash and you will get more info on swiss cash that they may want you to know. Remember this swiss cash club was and is still offering 300 % return!!!!!.
    If you search hard enough you will find out that the Maylasian Govermment shut them down and so on.

  377. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 7, 2007 at 6:25 pm

    Remember investments like Jmmb that offers 12% or so per year are reasonably and fair, even 17% per year are very capable and quite attainable with very little risk.
    Be very careful of the 10% or higher per month (120 % per year).
    For those of you who want to know how the Pyramid scheme works,use Google and search Pyramid Scheme and click on Ponzi Scheme.
    Remeber the backbone for the high priced returns ( 10 % plus per month) to work, new money must be comming in to pay those high monthly interest and to keep the scheme alive. Give some thought to the one arm bandit and it’s functions for those of you who have used it, it always give back some return ( encouragement) and then clean you out.

  378. Developer said,

    October 7, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    #374

    Mr. Investor, no this money is owed to me by someone else that i privatly invested with, diffrent kind of business. Any word on Attorneys? I have all signed documents with proof.

    Thanks

  379. lover said,

    October 7, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    andre what’s ur take on carief real estate investment

  380. Deigo said,

    October 7, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    Mr investor i’m looking a piece of land to buy in St catherine area as a propertyman do you have any avail?

  381. Natalie said,

    October 7, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Mr. Investor was hoping it was the same person, wasn’t you?

  382. Susan said,

    October 7, 2007 at 11:56 pm

    Lover I asked Andre’ that question yesterday and up till now no answer. I too would like to know.

  383. Deigo said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:10 am

    Can anyone tell me if its J$ or Us$ minvestment require?

  384. TB said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:35 am

    Its US$ they require

  385. Developer said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:26 am

    ok :-)

  386. Rad said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:41 am

    I have invested money with minvestment, but i have the progressive compound applied to my account. Unfortunately i cant say I’ve gotten paid yet:) but the interest is very impressive on 5k.

    I also have an account with opentrade and that is doing very well. I got over 2k already.

    Higgins warner is also a good investement. 20% monthly deposited to an account each month. I even got paid one day early :) Need more info on Higgins Warner you can email me @ admin@iclubintl.com

  387. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 6:21 am

    Hi people,

    Just stumbled upon this page and been reading through and decided to add my opinion on the matter on what Pound Kat Ridge said about mathematically impossible to give 10% return per month. Most of Jamaica are just been introduced to FX market recently through MTI. But most don’t really know the profit potential on it as yet. I have been a FX trader for little over 2yrs now before it was introduced to Jamaica, and my average minimum returns are lowest 200% to 500% per month. So when people providing a 10% return is much less to say very easy. It is a 24hr market that runs from sunday evening to friday 4pm. The people I trade with online from Australia are making more too, on average of near 900% per month..so if the people who claim they are really trading in forex, and paying u 10% per month, they have your full principal for 10months straight before they actually give u your real “profits”. If they are really good, they can turn your principal amount over 2000% while holding your money for 10months period, and only giving u back 10% per month. You guys get what I’m saying? The potential is not mathematically impossible. Its just not made aware fully to Jamaica as yet. Just my 2cents…Peace!

  388. JK said,

    October 8, 2007 at 7:11 am

    wow you sound like a good trader are you based in jamaica?

  389. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 10:50 am

    Hi JK,

    Ye, I’m in JA…and one lovely thing with trading FX is liquidity compare to stocks, and next best thing is if u have wireless net is the ability to be at a beach enjoying yourself, sippin martini and still make money trading FX there. I must say however, it is not for the faint hearted though because it can make most new people scream in agony if they don’t know what they’re doing. So key in success in fx market is sound money management. Here is another example of my theory of what some of these guys who trade fx…

    I manage a few accounts for my chinese friends here in JA and in Canada too, mostly own supermarkets etc. but my method is different, and last only on a month basis, and they reinvest if they want, most of the time they do :) . For argument sake, If I been lazy and make only my absolute minimum 200% ROI per month (coz i aim minimum 10%/day) for 20 tradin days in a month. Guarantee my friends 100% + their original principal at the end of the month, so they don’t have to wait 10 months @rate of 10%/mnth to just to get back their principal amnt…+100%…
    So here’s the reality now, they get back their full principal+100% at the end of the mnth, while I pocket the remaining 100%..
    Maths example, client1 deposit 10kUSD, make usual minimum 200% of that @end of mnth..10k+200%= $30kUSD @ end of mnth…
    so client1 get back original principal 10k +100% gained, ie another 10k, so 20k total is what client1 get back, while I pocket the remaining 10k… I have max 8 “clients” or “lenders” or whatever u wanna call them ^_^..so if each deposit 10k, and they each get back 20k at end of mnth..while i will pocket (10k x 8clients = 80k per mnth) So ain’t the fx market lovely…Hope u see the potential… ^_^ and no it is not a scam forex market..lol

  390. Chris said,

    October 8, 2007 at 10:51 am

    I would just like to second what Pipslovah said. 20-40% return(which is the absolute MINIMUM I think people like OLINT, MayDaisy etc actually make) in the forex market is far from mathematically impossibility is you are a good forex trader. I’m not saying that there aren’t any bogus shops out there just taking people money..All I’m saying is that even 50% return is not hard for a good trader. NOTE: Forex traders work with up to 200:1 leaverage(NOT recommended though)..meaning $1000 can controller $200,000 of currency…So you can either gets really poor or really rich very quick. However, an experience trader using proper money management techniques typically would never leverage him/herself to that point…but he/she could…just my 2.5 cents :)

  391. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 11:16 am

    Ye Chris,

    Leverage is one heck of a thing, it can be a dangerous double edge sword like u said if not applied proper money management skills, and above all, when they make greed take over u mind…lol..thats what makes most 98% traders fail in the fx market. I traded with 400:1 leverage before to prove a point to my sistren of the potential in FX market..turned her minimum broker requirement $300USD to start a mini account and turned that to little over 3k in 1mnth!, so using that nice 400:1 leverage gained what, basically 1000% ROI on her mere $300USD investment…lol.. Most of the people don’t know this market, and yet reality is all the major banks in the world or corporations do this to make their money…Banks around the world especially, they take say 100kUSD from u and give u umm, 5.75% ROI ANNUALLY!! Not monthly…and they use that same money trade fx, and generate massive returns from it while giving bank customers a small teenee weenee piece of their pie…I rest my case… lol…Have fun ladies and gents..^_^

  392. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 11:29 am

    Pipslovah,

    How much of an account do you risk on each trade ? sounds like you run a wholelot of risk with peoples capital and what broker do you use that givs 400-i leverage?

  393. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 11:39 am

    Hey FXKING,
    CMSFX is one i use for 400:1 but thats for small accounts, less than 10kUSD. Life’s about risk ehh…^_^ But as long as you’re more right than wrong then number one rule is don’t make your green pips turn red…^_^. My money managment strategy changes accordingly to equity gained on each trade, but what I normally advise people who just start trading FX is DON’T attempt use more than 1minilot per 1k equity..and only 1 standard lot per 10k equity.

  394. Developer said,

    October 8, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Pipslovah,

    Where are you originally from, and what brought you to the little Island of Jamaica to trade for Chinese.

    Sounds like you are trading from the Ritz Carlton on the beach :-) . That’s the life!
    Do you intend to only trade for those clients at this time or you plan to add more people to your portfolio?

    Word for today: Weeping may go on all night but in the morning there is joy.

  395. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    Hey developer,

    I grew up here in JA, and no not all of them are chinese…well 5 out of 8 are..^_^
    No, unfortunately I’m just gonna stick to those 8 as what i gain per month from them is far more than satisfactory already for someone who use to dread the 8-5 J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) environment….
    Also just to add to FXKING’s comments about risking a whole lot of people’s capital..my concept is very simple.
    1) Each individual would have gotten their principal amount back at the end of their 1st month +100%
    2) the real trick now is when i advise them to “KEEP” their original principal, and use ONLY the “profits” to reinvest, so they’ll be making profits ontop of profits, in a sense they’re RISKING absolutely nothing as they already got back the initial risk capital, and that amount is forever safe and sound.
    3) another example, i invest 1k to trade, upon reachin 2k, i withdrew 1k so at least mentally i know my initial investment risk capital is given back to me, and anything gained from the remianing 1k profit is gonna be STRAIGHT PROFITS! so hence making profit out of profit while original risk capital safe and sound

  396. Macky said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    I never had a problem with Swisscash during the 3 months I was in it but now it has been down since August 17 and it looks very “iffy” about coming back up. As a matter of fact I am almost sure it is not coming back up. A lot of people lost the shirts off their backs through swisscash – luckily I recovered before it went down.

  397. Sunflower said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    Hey Pipslovah

    Based on my reading of Forex that is my understanding of how you can make it work for you. There was never any doubt in my mind that investors are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with a 10% per mth returns.

    While most of us will happily take the 10% per mth and be satisfied it is the crooks who dont know anything about forex and have no intention of learning that will take people’s hard earned money and disappear overnight

    By the way I am half chinese if you ever decide to take on more clients. LOL

  398. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Pipslovah,

    In order for you to gain 10% daily you would have to be capturing 100 pips a day ,are you saying that this is what your doing?

  399. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    FXKING,

    Ye, just GJ will give u that…(GBP/JPY)… that pair moves on avg 168pips to 200pips a day…and at good news events times that affects it, can wrap 300pips from it alone. and this is not the only pair i major on..so 100pips a day is like a walk in the park for this pair…

  400. Junior said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    Macky could you provide the referral information to MayDaisy? I am willing to take the risk. With thanks.

    carter_junior@hotmail.com

  401. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Well this is true of the GBP/JPY its is extremely volatile. I am trader too I would love to exchange trading ideas with you

  402. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Pipslovah, how far do you set ur SL on the GJ and do u have it long now?

  403. Macky said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Junior – the information was just sent to your mailbox. Please respond accordingly.

  404. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    Yo FXKING,
    GJ long now, aww nope..before yes..shorted at 239.60..I don’t like holding it at high lvls

  405. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    FXKING,

    Plus, its well Overbought at even 4hr TF now, so a decent retracement should be due…

  406. Macky said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    You guys sound quite informed on the topic – I need a tutor :-) :-) Any takers?

  407. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    LOL, look like we need a page just for our trades then ehhh..:-p anywaysgood luck…i gota go…peace

  408. Anthony said,

    October 8, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Enjoy the exchange from you so called experts at trading. I must say I a client is quite satisfied with what I am offered from someone who trades for me however that is with the hope that they stick to proper money management and refrain from putting all the papers in the trading account. If the principle ” One one cocoa full basket” is applied then there is a possibility we who risk it could gain from you who trade it.

  409. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Macky,

    I will exchange a refferal to maydaisy for a few lessons

  410. Sunflower said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Is there a name behind MayDaisy? Where do they operate from? What is their monthly returns to investors? any info will be appreciated .

  411. Junior said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Macky – See response. Awaiting your reply.

  412. Pipslovah said,

    October 8, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Yo FXKING, closed all my positions now..and todays results
    GBP/JPY 100pips,
    EUR/JPY 50pips,
    EUR/USD 50pips,
    GBP/USD 50pips,
    USD/CHF 50pips,
    CAD/JPY 50pips,
    USD/JPY sucks only 20pips

    And u were saying 100pips a day is hard? Good luck bro…Its bed time for me now…ready again next london session..:)

  413. Anthony said,

    October 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Hey FXKing just wondering y maydaisy seeing how you are a trader? Are you saying that u r not doing too good?

  414. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    Anthony,
    just diversifing my porfolio.It can be a heartache sometimes watching these charts. I would like her to manage an account for me

  415. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    Pipslovah,

    That is great send a few signals this way

  416. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    Pipslovah I have a 20k would you mind managing it for me?

  417. Anthony said,

    October 8, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    Hey Susan a little correction re prev info was just told by a wwise rep that all they require is 5 days notice and you will receive the part of funds requested and at the end of month you will also get interest up to the date you pulled. Could u also make checks, as it appears to me info is not consistent and it all depends on who answers the phone. I would really like clarity on this because one has to know the system to capitalize at the right moment.

  418. Susan said,

    October 8, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    Ok. Anthony, will call later when the phone is no so busy and get the info.

  419. Deigo said,

    October 8, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    Hey FXKing, am new to this, whay does Pipslovah mean by pips, and what currency is JPY and CHF.

  420. Susan said,

    October 8, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    By the way Anthony, remind me of what to ask Wwise

  421. Emmerson said,

    October 8, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    I’ve heard that Cash Plus held a “Knowledge Forum” at hilton yesterday, to discuss their new consideration schedule. Can anyone confirm if this is true? Also, anyone know of any decisions/resolutions agreed upon coming out of that meeting?

  422. Developer said,

    October 8, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Hello Deigo welcome: JPY is the Japanese Yen. Pips are s the smallest measure of Price move used in forex trading. For instance, if the currency pair EUR/USD is currently trading at 1.3000 and then the exchange rate changes to 1.3010, the pair did a 10 pips (smallest units) move. The pip is the smallest measure regardless of the fractional representation of the currency exchange rate. Thus, 1.3000 to 1.3010 is the same move in pips terms as 110.00 to 110.10. Pips are sometimes called Points.

    hope this helps

  423. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Good answer Developer

  424. FXKing said,

    October 8, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    CHF is the franc

  425. FXNoob said,

    October 8, 2007 at 11:45 pm

    I’ve always been amazed by the how things happen in my life. One day I’m discussing a topic ,the next day I see signals popping up all over the place that I should make a move. I think I’m gonna get involved in this, but first I’m going to study, study, study.

  426. Deigo said,

    October 9, 2007 at 12:14 am

    Thanks Developer for the briefings but what is that in real money, how many pips would i need to have to gain a reasonable profit?
    Which country or countries that uses franc. Please to pordon my ignorance, i’m been reading news letters and doing my basic reseach on the stock market for the past three months, am yet to invest. this sit has been giving me alot of feed back.

  427. WEEBLE said,

    October 9, 2007 at 2:00 am

    Can anyone confirm if Higgins Warner is legitimate? Thinking of investing with them but after being bitten by Swiss Cash bug, I am a little tentative. Any info. would be appreciated.

  428. Valerie said,

    October 9, 2007 at 2:04 am

    New to this site, very informative. Need to do some other investments since real estate is slow right now. Wish Pipslovah was taking on new client. The 20G I need to invest would propel me a far way to financial freedom.
    Which investment house is the less risky of the lot? please email me at valeriebrown@totallyintotravel.com. Regards

  429. Steph said,

    October 9, 2007 at 2:22 am

    #427

    I’m with Higgins Warner since August and I’m getting my money. Yes, it is legitimate. If you want direct contacts, email me at.

  430. Developer said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:17 am

    #428 Welcome.

    Valerie I have been with Olint for about one year now and have not had any problems. I am very happy with my returns they keep me seeking new ways to turn over money as a venture capital guy I am always looking for the next good thing and product. I have also contacted Cash Plus this week, thinking about opening an account with just to have some local funds when based in Jamaica. I think you can also get a very good idea from this board as to what investment houses are doing what at this point in time.

    Thanks.

  431. Holyone51 said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Hey Pipslovah,
    I am a newbie forex trader and it seems like you have a successful trading strategy, Do you mind telling me were did you get your forex education?

  432. Holyone51 said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:28 am

    Hey Guys,
    For all those who are interesting in finding out more about forex trading, a good resource site is: http://www.babypips.com/school. You enroll in the School of Pipsology… And it’s free.

  433. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:48 am

    Ladies & Gents,

    Alright there is all this talk back and forth of wether or not CashPlus, Olint, WorldWise, etc are legit.. If you are into risk taking all that matters is making as much as you can b4 anything goes wrong and thats that… I personally have tried everything… I have an appetite for risk even though I am not wealthy and yes I have youth on my side, so there is really no time like the present.

    If you are paranoid about risk, I would not suggest that you try to put on blinders and behave as if you didn’t know what you were getting yourself into. DO NOT try to convince yourself if you are not feeling it.. If you do go in with your paranoia, collect your money every month instead of letting it compound… Its things like these that you have to consider…
    The other day when the FSC advised against SwissCash and their website went down and no one could contact them, do you know that people actually called the commission asking what they should do.. Now sorry for sounding callous, but I would have loved to be the person answering some of those calls… You knew what you were getting yourself into, so if you have suffered loss, please suffer it quietly and if you didn’t know well you shoudl have learned your lesson from that one..RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH EVEN if its risky… So it all comes back to people not fully understanding themselves and what is their “acceptable risk”.
    If you have to think about it too long, dont bother… If you are way up there in age and you do not have a high income, dont bother (or put a minimal amount) as being retired and putting all your money into something you are not sure about makes no sense.. If your young and not “risk restrained” go right ahead, you have major recovery time depending on how young you are…
    And at the end of it all, just do not be guided by that five letter word GREED, as thats where it all goes wrong.. Let’s face it no one really cares what they are keeping for themselves.. I know I personally am not concerned about that. We don’t what the hell the bank is keeping for themselves and what do they leave us to think when there’s a spread where a loan can be 30% and savings only a mere 7-8%… Are ya readin’ between those lines! Compared to that getting, 8-10-12% a month is sweet (for however long it lasts.
    And dont listen to those “bigwigs” out there that ‘lickin out” against it… They all have already made their money and nows just their time to run their mouth… Now that being said, I am not saying it is risk free, but just evaluate your person to see if it best fits with you. If yes, hooray you can make yourself some money in the meantime and if not just leave it alone and continue living….

  434. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:48 am

    Yo FXNOOB,

    Good to hear you’re interested in FX, but as a former newbie 2 yrs ago with no guidance, i will share this with u and beginners.
    1) Do as much research as u can with this market, and get to understand what moves the markets and why…most of the beginners will go to http://www.babypips.com for intro on it, and i must say it is a nice beginner site to learn what is what.
    2) next find a broker of your choice to try out a demo trading, can probably even sign up for several as some of them offer different trading platforms and u can choose the ones you’re most comfortable with…The ones I normally use on LIVE ACCOUNTS are
    -CMSFX.com uses VT trader, great for the techinal analysis tools and trading with them not bad, but they do have problems every now and again tho, but still tolerable.
    -FXCM.com, they’re one of the largest and popular brokers alive and customer service is decent so far. They also offer a fx course for $19.95 for those who are interested…instead of the blown out umm no offence $2500USD from MTI… and funniest thing is I-TradeFX, (MTI affiliated broker) actually call me and tell me that what MTI is offering can be learned from free resources on the net, its just that they organise everything for u together in one place..lol..so hey if u wanna learn it for free, u gotta put out some work to read thru stuff thats on tha net already, and save urself 2.5kusd…
    -For more technical trading analysis, I use Brokers with the Metatrader platform, just their demo tho as i use it just for chart analysis purposes.
    - Umm…Investopedia.com is also a ok site to find information on the “technical indicators” that you’ll be using on your charts..so they normally give u brief description on what they are for.
    -NEXT rule…when u start making money on demo, dont get too excited to open an account with alot of money…most traders get burn here..why??
    A) Your mental psychology is totally different as now, even your slightest piece of subconcious mind knows you are trading with REAL MONEY! So most people will panic and do bad calls under this emotion.
    B) My advice is u can open an account with a broker like Oanda.com that allow “microlot” size trading..with say $200-$300USD..and trade strictly microlots, and until u get comfortable with the whole idea that you’re playing with REAL money and are actually PROFITABLE from it consistently…u can then start trading minilots, and then finally to standard size lots.
    C) why go through all this?? I’ve seen alot of beginners go through this emotion where they think they have the market right, then it goes against them..then they panic and close their original position and open another one that would flow with the current price action, but not too long after it goes aginst them again…and they lose by panicking and freaking out because they know its their real money their trading with… You are your own worse enemy when it comes to FX trading world…It is definatley not for the faint hearted.
    Oh crap, this message looks Looooooooong…lol…anyways…practice and get use to the market and conquer your emotions, then you’ll come out with more wins than losses in your trades. Peace

  435. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:58 am

    hey, Holyone5

    The best education is through real experience…no teacher or book can show u clearly until u experience it yourself. I’ve been through many different combinations since i started..mostly learning it as i go along and take notes on why this happens…especially during fundamental news times..Actually many traders are “News traders”, they make money trading the news alone, which last probably seconds to hours or days. These are what u classify as fundamental traders as well…and then u have the technical traders that analyses charts and patterns using tonz of indicators…and then there is one more kind of trade, which is the “Hopeful” trader..who most times enter the market “hoping” such and such will happen their way…and if u find that u are such a trader…I suggest u dont even try fx trading…its the same thing I tell everyone i come across…so its just what i observed over the past yrs of my trading.
    To me personally, technical beats fundamental most times, except when very important fundamental news comes up and throw the market in opposite way…and guess what tho, ultimately the technical side will pick up where the fundamental left off or started, and resume its course..so more technical, less fundamental…Try a few trades and document your reasons for taking the trades. and more and more it will become clock work

  436. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:00 am

    Again like someone mentioned earlier, people do not carry out proper due diligence on things b4 they start to comment. I really do not know how these investments come to be classified as Ponzis, either way we have no proof…come to classified as Ponzis. The bank has to keep customers saving, if no one saves with the bank they will have no money to lend, therefore we will have no interest to gain.. is that a Ponzi….

    I do a little personal FX trading for myself and make some money, so what makes Olint any different.. A friend and I do trades part-time, yes we are full-time workers and we do it for a bunch of friends and we between 6-10% monthly and thats only the tip of the iceberg. If we were fully dedicated to it we could do much more.

    Would I set out to deliberately cheat myself. With FX Trading for a group of persons all you need is an excellent (not a greedy trader) trader and stable global market conditions and eveything will continue to be pretty.
    FX Trading offers leveraging. For example, the leverage can be a 100:1 so if you are trading $500.00, it would actually be like you’re trading $500.00 x 100 = $50,000.00. So with that in mind just think of the pool of money any of the traders are handling and that should make it all clearer. They dont need to utlize the maximum pool of funds, therefore lowering the risk of losses. Everything else after that just depends on the market.
    Where Cash Plus is concerned, apart from liquidity issues why would they be considered Ponzi .. they are into acquisitions and they borrow from us to do business and in return offer us a rate of interest. Banks do banking, they borrow from us to do business and repay us in savings accounts, certificates of deposits, etc.. As a matter of fact they borrow from us at ridiculously low interest rates and then lend that money back to us at ridiculously high interest rates. Borrowing from us at 7-8% to give us a loans at 18-30%. Its just now that loan rates are getting a little better, but savings still aren’t.

    So now you see why we cant make any money there and so people will always be drawn to other methods for as long as they last. Why is it different then? The only difference is that it is unregulated and therefore the money laundering issue may haunt them. What the bank has going for them is safety and thats if you spread your money around, if not and something happens you will suffer loss if you have more than the insured amount with any one institution.

    I however, would rather to live on the wild side a little to have some money to “keep safe”, than “keeping safe” with little or no money.”

    Do you research, and know your risk appetite.

    If you can tek di risk, All I am saying, is just get it while its hot.. OK! …

    and yes I am a banker…

  437. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:04 am

    YOW FXKING,

    What did I tell u about GJ today huh… Looks like My grizzly Bear just ate your Bull for dinner. Hope u never bought at a high price though…Price went down to 238.06 on my system…If the price breaks through 237.80, and 4hr TF still heading down, you can expect another round of selling in the cards. Also watch out for the daily close..if its bearish then can expect a 200pip free fall on the cards as well…Peace! Good luck…

  438. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:19 am

    Hi Deigo,

    Umm..you cannot justify the value of a pip just like that..it all depends on what contract lot size u open the position with. I suggest u do some more reading at babypips.com for what trading Lot sizes are…
    Here are some examples..
    GBP/USD pair… 1pip on 1minilot contract is $1.00, 1pip on 1standard lot is $10.00, 1pip on 10standard lot is $100.00 and so on..
    The most I’ve used before is 100standard lot contracts and for GBP/USD thats $1000.00 per pip..so if u gain 100pips on your trade, and closed the position you’ll get (100x 1,000 = $100,000USD)..
    and also the value differs for each currency pair..the broker you use will tell u the value of them.

  439. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:20 am

    Susan just some clarity needed on the best time to say withdraw some funds at wwise without losing interest and being penalized. Its like at cash p i used a strategy of always timing my say partial disbursement and always got paid for the withdrawal amount. Just trying to work a formula re wwise. After all look how long they keep your papers before it starts working for you.

  440. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:32 am

    Hey Pipslovah i am curious re the 200% on a low to 500% on high mentioned earlier. my understanding is that you do the trading on your own if this is so what would be the possibility if you had two other partners as experience as yourself and dedicated to say a shift system for a month so when two are sleeping the other is trading.

  441. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:46 am

    Hey Anthony,

    Actually, that came to mind, and then mi bredren from Utech gave me idea to create a “robot” trading system instead so it can run 24hr on my 10currency pairs. I’m testing it now actually..so far it does ok under my needs, but i have to set alarm clock at dfifferent intervals to take profit..So truth and infact I’m trying to “phase out” myself too LOL in this thing and just let it run on autotrade…It for one wont have any emotions, and will only react when a=b=c and enter close trade accordingly..so thats where I’m heading with this thing. I already have a partner in this, and he’s the lead programmer of the robot i using now…^_^

  442. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:49 am

    Would really like to hear comments from Pound Kat Ridge seeing as how the chickens have come home to roost and they r spilling beans. It would be nice to hear a exchange between him and the traders.

  443. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 4:55 am

    Yeah man as long as there r traders there will be lenders. Keep turning the papers and dont let the papers turn u .Peace

  444. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:04 am

    Hi Sunflower,

    Sorry missed ur post from before..Ye, i decide not to go any further getting more people to reduce the hassle as all those I managing now are my friends from long time…and granted, what they each put in each mnth now is more than 10k from my example as their profits grew countless folds already..so with that said, my monthly “commision” from them is more than 80k and that doesn’t include my own personal trading account… I don’t think I need to be that greedy to take on more people. Even some of my doctor and lawyer friends are getting into this fx trading thing now after they see what its potential is lol..
    But if you want to learn more, I may give u advice from time to time tho…

  445. zoff said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:10 am

    Good night pipslovah,
    i understand your position but can you help a brother make some money, i am more than willing to take the risk.my email address is dwynt@hotmail.com

  446. zoff said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Macky
    can you give me a reference to maydaisy please? email me @dwynt@hotmail.com

  447. Pat said,

    October 9, 2007 at 9:59 am

    Can anyone give me info on May Daisy. what does the interest rates look like? how do you get in?are they affiliated with Olint?how do they make their money?is there a phone number for them? I would appreciate the info so I can do my research before asking for a referral.

  448. Pat said,

    October 9, 2007 at 10:02 am

    Hi
    Can anyone give me info on May Daisy. what does the interest rates look like? how do you get in?are they affiliated with Olint?how do they make their money?is there a phone number for them? I would appreciate the info so I can do my research before asking for a referral.

  449. FXKing said,

    October 9, 2007 at 12:02 pm

    Pipslovah what trades do you have for today? I was stopped out on that GJ long for 30 pips didnt see that head and shoulder pattern on the 10 min..

  450. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Yo FXKING,

    Still shorted GJ, GU GBP/CHF from this morning..and as u can see GJ fell hard again…:)

  451. Chris said,

    October 9, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Pipslovah,

    I really do appreciate your posts and find them quite informative. Funny enough you actually helped me to make a system I’m backtesting about 10% more profitable (on paper anyway :) ). I’m relatively new to FX trading but I’m a long time technical stock trader who is pretty proficient at fully automating the trading systems that I develop. I have a few questions for you though…

    Which timeframe do you look at to make your trades? I get the impression you use the 4-hr for conformation, but are you basing your trades on the 1-hr or 30-min chart??

    Why do you trade the London session over the Toyko or U.S.??

    What are the 2 most useful indicators for FX trading? (in your opinion)

    Are any of the brokers you use a true ECN? .i.e not a “market maker”(eg. Oanda) like they like to call themselves :)

    FYI: Here is an interesting site where people review their forex brokers…like everything else, take it with a grain of salt though

    http://www.forexbastards.com/public/forex_broker_reviews

    The broker I use is interactive brokers. They dont just do forex though, you can trade stock, futures, options all front the same account. Their platform is a little different and takes some getting use to. However, I find it extremely powerful and they support more types of orders(both manual and automated) than most of the other FX brokers dont(eg. Bracket Orders which I use in my robot systems). Their only drawback is there customer service aint the greatest.

    Anyway I have a few ideas I’d love to bounce off you whenever you have some free cycles. I think a few good pointers would greatly increase the profitability of my systems. Thanks.

    Chris
    cnh4_2000@yahoo.com

  452. Kareen said,

    October 9, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    1. Hi Weeble .427,
    I am currently a member of Higgins Warner Group. Based on my experience and that of other investors that I personally know, they are very much ligit. They have an office here in Montego Bay at Baywest Plaza. They came to Jamaica in February 2007. I understand that they have been around since 1991.
    They do give a 20% returns monthly. I already receive my second return. I know persons who have already gone through the 6 months and further. The contract lasted for 6 months. It is up to you to roll over your principal if you like. In this case, you would need to notify them at least 2 weeks prior to the maturity date. If not, they will be wiring your principal to you. At that time it would be up to you to start a new contract if you like.
    They are simply borrowing our money and share the profit with us. They have invested in Sports (see info on site about the World football Idol in Argentina) Read more on the site. Max Higgins is the president of the Organisation.
    They are in Fashion, Entertainment, Music, Movies, etc. You can call their office here or Argentina if you so desire. One of their recent investments is in two hotels at Disney inclusive of a Casino.
    They have great plans in the pipeline. If you are interested in this investment you can contact me at kphilbrown@gmail.com

  453. Ness said,

    October 9, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    Macky please could you referral me to MayDaisy? Thanks in advance.
    shishi_jamaicanbrat@yahoo.com

  454. Sunflower said,

    October 9, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    Pipslovah

    You have answered a lot of my lingering questions in #434.

  455. Mr. Investor said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    I hear there is alot of people taking there money out of Worldwise BE CAREFUL just remember I warned you first . I have also found 2 other people that has deposited funds for that same development only to find out it wasnt started or even approved by the relevant agencies.. he owes alot of people money dont be fooled by these crminals.

    Anthony, I hear people are not getting there payments and are pulling out

  456. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    I hear you Mr Investor, I am now left to wonder if the crowd Susan mentioned earlier are people running at the company. I will have to make checks. Would not want to cause a panic however because as I say I have something to lose.

  457. Peter said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    Hi there,
    there was a post a while ago asking if Mr. Blythe of UGI Group is with World Wise? Yesterday I was told by an WW employee that he is.

    My impression was, that there is no panic and that the people are not pulling out.
    Cheers
    Peter

  458. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    Just called a friend who also is in the same position as I am with a tidy sum to lose. He works nearby on Ruthven and says the parking has now stretched as far as Anti Crime. He assumes these r new people however I told him to make checks to be sure. I say again thanks for the warning, I want to be like the tracker Indian with his ears on the ground.

  459. Mr. Investor said,

    October 9, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    Neville Blythe has denied being apart of Worldwise

  460. lover said,

    October 9, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    i have a tidy some at cash plus and i too on a monthly basis visit there offfices in new kingston to observe the inflow of new customers…… and i must say its as if the crowd gets larger and larger every month……… but as soon as that crowd start to disappear i will b pulling my funds….lol…… if it’s john paying tom, i always want to b tom…. i have to protect mine (if don’t noone will )………..

  461. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    One has to employ strategies re high risk because it is about having that discipline to call it a day and count the chickens before you r forced to count your losses.

  462. lover said,

    October 9, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    TYPE….PERIOD….JA-DOLLARS….US-DOLLARS…….CAN/POUN STERLING
    mthly/ roll mthly/ roll mthly/ roll
    A 3 mths 10% 12% 8% 10% 7% 9%

    B 6 mths 11% 14% 9% 12% 8% 11%

    C 1 year 12% 15% 10% 13% 9% 12%

    D 2 yars 13% 16% 11% 14% 10% 13%

    E 3 yars 14% 17% 12% 15% 11% 14%

    F 5 yars 15% 18% 13% 16% 12% 15%

    Rates above are cash plus revised rates, but a customer rep. told me that in order for existing customers to get these new rates, they must be called by cash plus.

  463. lover said,

    October 9, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    anyone have a inside source at ww ? if u do please keep thiis site up to date what’s happening….

    Thanks in advance… “united we reach”

  464. Mr. Investor said,

    October 9, 2007 at 7:11 pm

    I have heard that this guy from World wise owes over $30mil to investors in that same development, my 3 mil included. I think that money is being used to pay you guys and from Miami I have also heard that he just bought a $20 mil Benz hope that wasnt out of your money, dont be fooled people . I truly believe your money would be safer in another hand

  465. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    Hey guys,
    Would u agree with me that life was pretty boring before high risk ventures. I mean even most of who got burned by swiss cash are back on the hunt for success, not willing to lay down and die. Keeps the adrenalin pumping, I personally would have it no other way. I say again as long as there r real traders there will be lenders.

  466. Juliet said,

    October 9, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Hi Guys,
    I must admit that while going through the list of comments above, I was extremely entertained. Alot of people does not seems to be aware. The thing is, its time for us to stop depending soley on others to advise us based on what we should do financially. Now dont get me wrong. Its all good to ask for advice, but its even better if we take up the axe and research first for ourselves and then ask for advice later. I believe its a down fall for most of us. Whenever I recommend anyone to an investment. my first take is. Do your own research. dont rely on someone else experience. Only use their experience as a guide after you have done your own research. Also dont rely on one method of research. Brainstorm through the processes. look short and long term, before deciding on any investment. Remember in the end its your money.

    I must admit that I am proud to say I am a member of Higgins Warner Group. Before jumping on board I did my own research even though it was introduce to me by a close friend and co-worker. And I have not regretted it so far. We all need to realise that all investments are risky, the difference is always the level of the risk. You will have some risk higher than others, however it is still a risk. My advice to those persons who are scare is to get out of the kitchen as the saying goes ” if you cant manage the heat, just get out of the kitchen” let your money remains in the bank and be satisfy.

    Another thing I should also point out to everyone is that Not everyone are cut out for risk!!!

    I Just want to wish everyone on the blog all the best in whatever they choose. Just go about it deligently, do your research on the different opportunites, put god first and it will work for you.

    Peace out

  467. Anthony said,

    October 9, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    Peace off to my 9 to 5 catch up later.

  468. Pipslovah said,

    October 9, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    Yo Chris,

    Wazzup..just com from pricesmart to spend som a mi hard earned pips..^_^
    Ye, I use mainly 30min-1Hr and 4Hr for longer term trend…somtimes I use 15mins for entries and exits. Any TF lower than 15mins are too fake for me as I don’t usually scalp…and it will whipsaw u all over the place.

    Actually its not just london session alone..its mostly from london to us session..so time periods are from like midnight to midday…I will extend the time if i see a strong move though…like now its 2pm, and i’m still in a trade with lovely GBP/JPY…i got a big dutty 4HR bullish divergence candle, so gotta buy this one and aim for another 100pips..^_^..Asian sessions..um…unless i see a strong signal, otherwise that trading session is mostly sideways at times…but u can still target 25-40pips on asian session though. But majority of big moves happen from frankfurt-london opening, then to us opening and midday..then volume dies down.

    Real ECN’s umm, I couldnt tell u one..fxcm claim to be one but it probably just 90% ^_^..truth is i dont really see a true 100% ECN before…Most real market makers will kill scalpers in the long run though, or what i’ve read anyways..Most of them claim that they allow scalping, but ur position has to be opened for at least 1minute..lol…^_^

    U use interactive brokers…hmmm, just chk them out…spread looks really nice, but leverage sucks though..50:1 is the highest u can get??? And what spread u get on GBP/JPY?? The least amount i see from a sistren currenx platform is 2pip spread on GBP/JPY. Heard there are 1pip spread occasionally but she is yet to see that…

    Umm, forexbastards.com…yes they’re informative but I dont agree with some of them though that loves to shout SCAM SCAM…^_^ Most of them are newbies though, and the slightest thing will make them call SCAM..^_^…
    http://www.cftc.gov/marketreports/financialdataforfcms/
    Also u can review the above website for the list of approved brokers who are healthy and wont run out a business, because a new requirement was issued and some brokers had to be shut down.

    My robot system includes different strategies and timeframes that it works best on, as each pair’s rythm is different, so some might work best on 1hr, and some on 30min TF’s…as I had to analyse each pair and their movement and mometum pattern closely to apply those settings. Umm, tools i use..wow, alot of different combos of indicators ranging from moving averages, and momentum, and those that use to identify divergences, and overbought and oversold statuses. tie all a dat with Fibonacci lines..^_^ I normally use those areas to take profit or add more firepower (contract lots) once those areas breaks..

    Ok, as i finish type this longasss response, my target hit…so between swings of selling and this bullish divergence buy got mi 200pips on GJ today..And yes, swing trading is another thing i love…^_^

    Let me know more about u broker, and if leverage can b increased coz my strategy requires at least 100:1 or 200:1 leverage so that I can allow room for my positions to fluctuate on whipsaws.

  469. Kriss said,

    October 9, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    Hi all.
    Ever heard about “Keen”

  470. Carla said,

    October 9, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    I need a referral for Maydaisy. Please e-mail me at carleen2b@gmail.com.

    Thanks

  471. Emmerson said,

    October 9, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    Hi guys

    I too am seeking a referral for Maydaisy. Please email me at j_e_nello@yahoo.com.

  472. Craig said,

    October 9, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    Hey everyone. Great Forum btw. Hats off to the creators… Just wondering how would someone who lives overseas and invests in one of these companies be able to transfer the monthly profits to an overseas account? Would i have to have bank account in Jamaica? in order for the tranfser to take place?

  473. kareen said,

    October 9, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    Hi Craig,

    To join the Higgins Warner Investment, you can have an account in the US or elsewhere. Your monthly returns will be wired monthly to your account. You can email me for more info on joining.

  474. mathetes said,

    October 9, 2007 at 11:06 pm

    Greetings friends

    Should you invest with Higgins Warner?
    1.A contact is Mr. Kenrick Gilpin, his number is 876- 772-2374
    2.The organization is registered with the Office of Registrar of Companies Jamaica http://www.orcjamaica.com/search/showresults2.asp?searchtype=business&search=simple&busname=higgins+warner&srch=Search

    Now because a company is registered is doesn’t mean that they are a licensed to offer financial service….SHOULD YOU INVEST WITH HIGGINS WARNER? READ MY BLOG ON THEM HERE: http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/higgins-warner/

    Regarding CASHPLUS,
    they are still up and booming, infact they have a type A-G investment schedule that allows investers to invest with them for as short as three (3) months and get 12% compounded 10% monthly…you can get more info by visiting my latest blog on CashPlus here: http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/3-months-with-cash-plus/ .

  475. Junior said,

    October 9, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    Seeking a referral to MayDaisy. Any assistance will be appreciated.

    carter_junior@hotmail.com

  476. VC said,

    October 9, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    MACKY

    Could you assist with a reference to May Daisy. I’m aware of the risk, willing to take the chance. Much appreciated.

    wuk_gal_hard@yahoo.com

  477. Junior said,

    October 9, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Has anyone here had any experience with Minvestments? Please share any information you have about them.

  478. Sunflower said,

    October 9, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    For cash plus new investment programme , do you know the minimum investment for each currency?

  479. La Toya said,

    October 10, 2007 at 12:06 am

    I wonder if you are already a member of cash plus can you change over to there new intrest rates.

  480. KIDCHILLIN said,

    October 10, 2007 at 12:50 am

    RE # 477

    The minimum US, CAD, and POUND is $3,000. I must say it looks pretty good. You have the option to take your interest monthly or let it role for a minimum of 3 months or a max of 5 years. Monthly interest earned varies depending on what currency your’re investing.

  481. Deigo said,

    October 10, 2007 at 1:44 am

    Hi Pipslovah

    Thanks for info, you see , what i’m aiming to achieve is that practical on hands on for myself. instead of having cashpl or any others doing it for me i can do it for myself. I know it won’t be so easy but i would feel more justify knowing it was my call, than to be wondering and pondering, is this company ligit; can i trust them. i’v been reading upon FX today and i’m drawing closer and closer to getting start.
    wish we luck.

    Bless

  482. Susan said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:26 am

    Mr. Investor why are you scaring people like that. I think you have something personally with this Noel man. Sort it out. I will investigate for myself. Anthony when I went there I see people adding to their investment and some coming for the first time. As a said before, Mr. Investor, go public with this since you found 2 other persons who was cheated as you. Make it know to people. Go to the media and the newspaper, do it now. Dont be selfish.

  483. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:38 am

    susan when u investigate please pass on information to us on this forum ASAP cause i have something to lose in ww

  484. Natalie said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:39 am

    Mr. Investor I do believe now that you are lobbing for someone else. Why couldn’t you say to take our money from Wwise and but it back in the bank. You are saying to put it other hands. I think you are up to something. All these othe investment apart from the banks are a risk. Tomorrow I am going to call Wwise and let them have a look at this website. As susan says go public with what happen to you. I know no one can owe me that much money and get away with it. And worst of all, have offices in my country. You got to be kidding.

  485. Susan said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:40 am

    Ok. JK. will do

  486. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:55 am

    natalie- i agree if the offices are in the island i would protest outside to let the public kno its a sham…….or bun it rass down lol just kidding

  487. Nes said,

    October 10, 2007 at 3:22 am

    MACKY

    Could you please please send me a reference to May Daisy. I’m willing to risk my money.
    Thank You

    shishi_jamaicanbrat@yahoo.com

  488. Anthony said,

    October 10, 2007 at 4:02 am

    Hey Susan u just stick in there and don’t let them scare u. Remember this saying
    “The hotter the battle the sweeter the victory” LOVE THIS SITE. We just got to be our brother and sister keeper and keep our eye on the prize.

  489. Chris said,

    October 10, 2007 at 4:21 am

    Mr. Pipslovah!

    Looks like you gonna force mi to do some serious typing inna di night :) Well I like interactive for a few reasons:

    1) They are well capitalized and have been around for well over a decade (even though I think they just started to doing forex in the last few years).
    Since they also allow you to trade US options, futures, stocks, and bonds, they have to be a lot more regulated than a company that just does forex only. And “supposibly” their are a true ECN i.e. all order gets routed to the inter-bank network.

    By the way, interesting Forex ECN discussion: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=75861

    2) Technology – they support overs 40 different orders types(alot more that most other brokers), most of which can be incorporation into your robot/automated trading system. I’ve found that some of these orders(eg. Limit-if-Touched, Bracket, Market-with-Protection, GTD (Good-till-Date/Time) etc etc etc) can be great tools for minimizing risk and maximizing gain, without requiring you to be glued to your monitor :)

    http://individuals.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/orderTypes.php?ib_entity=llc

    3) Tight Spread and Low Commission. Even though you have to pay a commission its pretty low and the tighter spreads “usually” more that makes up for it.

    As far as the leverage I think you can apply for a certain type of account where they would increase it from 50:1, but thats not a process I’m too familiar with.

    So if your system requires 100:1 or 200:1 leaverage, I take it your stops losses are extremely loose?? or do you typically open enough positions to take you right to the edge of the margin cliff?? :)
    By the way the spread on GBP/JPY seems to be 2-3 PIPS depending on the time of day/night.

    Thanks for the info on the timeframe and the sessions that you trade. After some more backtesting I’m starting to realized certain some of my systems prefer to be used in certain sesssions. For example, my “DIP”(ramdom name) system has only a 15% error rate in the Tokyo session but a 30+ % error rate in the US session…strange but true..anyway I’ll catch up with you after a good night sleep probably with another question or two :)

    Ok one just came to me!..Since you are mainly a technical trader, do you just trade around(i.e. avoid) “major” news announcement?? or do you pretty much ignore the news and just look at the technical and let that be your guide???

  490. Marsha said,

    October 10, 2007 at 4:21 am

    WHO IS THIS MR.INVESTOR? IF YOU LOST SO MUCH MONEY THEN WHY NOT GO DOWN TO WW AND ASK THIS NOEL TO GIVE IT BACK.
    I have been to WW and set up an account. While there I asked the rep to let me speak to Noel.TO MY SURPRISE HE WAS MEETING HIS CLIENTS IN THE RECEPTION AREA AT WW OFFICE. I was suprised at how easy it was to meet him. He is definately not hiding from anyone. I asked him about his developments and he advised me that he has a project that has been financed by the Jamaica Mortgage Bank. He boasted being the youngest entreprenuer to get funding on such a large scale. The project he admited was delayed because it needed funding at current bank rates not 12% per month rates.
    I called the bank he mentioned and sure enough it is funded by them to the tune of 97mill JAD.
    He also told me that WorldWise trades on the forex and their doing well.
    I asked about Neville Blythe and he said you can go to UGI finance and Investment to open your account if u wish.
    Neville Blythe he tells me is an agent for WW and that they have done their due dilligence on his organisation(WW) prior to offering it to UGI clients.
    I urge this Mr Investor to visit WW and speak to Noel, because he is very approachable, well spoken and by me meeting him in person I know this
    Mr. Investor must have lost a screw or is working for someone else.

  491. Anthony said,

    October 10, 2007 at 4:45 am

    Is Pound KAT Ridge in the house or have the big DOGS scared him. Still awaiting that exchange with the traders,figure I could learned a thing or 2 from my learned friends. I guess he is off to the library doing his research. We anxiously await your arrival.

  492. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:09 am

    Hey anthony,

    I have a feelin that when Pound Kat come back, it gona be strong..^_^, but the whole debate started when I saw Pound kat’s comment about “mathematical impossible for 10% ROI (return on investment) per mnth”. I just had to put in a word for the fx traders of d world…^_^ My aussie friends make approx 5000pips minimum per month and dats like 500% minimum for them. so I gotta stand up and say 10% ROI is crap! Even when u learn just a teenie weenie bit how to trade u can mek 10% wid u yeyes closed! (PS…just saying dat to illustrate dat it easy so dont tink u can really trade wid u yeyes shut tho..u might click d wrong button..LoL)

  493. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:12 am

    did some research

    world wise does have an office in the same location as UGI
    WW
    Island Wide Locations:

    Kingston: Head Office: 2 ¼ Ruthven Road, Kingston 5, Jamaica.
    Tel: 876-754-2836-40, Fax: 876-754-2835
    Contact: Sales Department
    Kingston: Adept Ltd.
    Address: 2 Belmont Road, Kingston 5
    Tel: 929-7723-4
    Contact Person: Customer Services

    ugi:
    Visit or call any of the locations below. Our opening hours are 8:30a.m. – 4:30p.m. Mondays to Fridays. We will be happy to assist you with any information you may need about us or our products and services.

    Kingston (Head Office)
    2 Belmont Road, Kingston 5
    Tel: (876) 920-6703-6, 920-6708-10
    Fax: (876) 920-6724

  494. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:14 am

    it isnt a direct agent as far as i am concerned but it it does have opperation within the same location

  495. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:24 am

    Any one with experience with F1 investments ?….I was told they invest with OLINT http://www.f1investmentsinc.com/ and may even be partially owned by David Smith

  496. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:28 am

    Also , If someone owed me 3 million JA dollars I would be so upset I would not have time to post here. I would be making up a lot of noise and would be making it as public as possible by going to the papers, media, etc. If this was a way to get the word out I would have started out with way more details and bad wud

  497. AD' said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:53 am

    Hello everyone is it possible for someone to give me a referral to f1investments.

    I will send my email address once i get a resp…

    Thanks.

  498. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    Hey Pipslovah,

    Thanks for sharing all this info man. Much appreciated. It is seldom that someone with this kind of information take time to share with brothers and sisters.

    I have some questions. How long did it take you to get your game on…ie how long did you practice or lose money before becoming profitable ?

    I am trying a thing myself started out when I listened in to one of the free MTI webinars. The MTI webinars was good as an enlightnment as before I could not understand how OLINT and company give these type of returns. But now I know. I did not buy the MTI course because after doing my research it seemed overpriced and they were probably just taking advantage of the ignorant. Mind you there courses probably work but I just think that I can learn for much less and it is probably better for me to learn by trial and failure than sit all day watching a set of 2 dozen DVD’s.

    That said I am trying to learn on my own for two months now…some days I make money some days I lose a shitload on the demo account. I am using the trading software from ac-markets.com and info from babypips.com. Can you provide a list of URL’s with free resources on the web ? for example some tricks of the trade, how others play the game, fundamental and technical plays, chat rooms that you guys hang out in etc ? Also, how do I know when I am ready to go live ? babypips said to trade demo for at least two months but after two months I am stil; not making consistent profits. I must admit that I do not spend enough time due to work pressures.

    Thanks Again Brother ! Nuff Respect !

  499. Mr. Investor said,

    October 10, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Marsha you are obviously nieve or you personally work at Worldwise. Where has that 97 mil been spent certainly its not on the development and this is very strange because I just found out that Neville Blythe is the head of that bank which granted that loan> I t seems to me that there is a conflict of interest. All I can say again is beware…We will all see the outcome it will be made public

  500. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    I have been reading all the Worldwise comments. I have invested with them recently and gogt my first pro rated profits for October. I am simply noting the negative comments but I am not running. One thing I come to realize is that (especially with the internet) there is almost always something bad to say about a good thing. Take it with a grain of salt and consider all the other facts and make my own decision. One thing that I am doing is spreading the money around which is why I am curious about f1 so I can get in on the OLINT investments. Kind of tuff otherwise to find a way in when you don’t live down there. I am also trying out the trading myself and hopefully one day I will figure it out and not need to give my money to someone else other than a broker.

  501. DR said,

    October 10, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Just how many Alternative Investments (AI) clubs are out there in Ja? I have heard of several…………… I think these AI’s are for the brave…. It has worked for many of my friends…..Hint! Get out some of your money after you have doubled…..

    Ques: Is is true that Nipo Line Automotive has a AI too paying 10 to 12% per month? There is a rumour that Michael Lee Chin has one too….is that true?

  502. Anthony said,

    October 10, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    If customers of some of these investment houses are having problems, is it possible that some r under manned as a result of the very increased business to the small space they operate from. Check this guys joined wwise in early August and realized they had just picked up momentum, parked in parking lot which is very small anyway and they were renovating other offices,on my return September was entertained to a bigger reception area more workers however car park full since then just parked elsewhere and walked. 2 times in Sept noticed that before 1pm they had dealt with over 70 clients already. I have not been back since, however word on the street is that it gets crazier by the day. I do not think they anticipated that we would gravitate towards them so quickly, or they would not have spent money renovating that little building. Remember when cash p was upstairs island life, manned buy four 2 years ago, look at the growth. If Mr Noel is serious about business I will grow with him. I said earlier my confidence is up with the crowd and down with the no show of people. After all first and foremost I am in it for the money win lose or draw, preferably a win.

  503. AD' said,

    October 10, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    #499

    Great questions and answers HD when you get information on f1 let me know. I noticed that they have two types of accounts G & P but are averaging only 8% monthly. How is this any different from Lefam? They average about the same also.

    thanks

  504. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    hmmm…8% is no good. I am also considering wealthbuilders. Called them this morning and they said the last two months was 11% and 13%. They are also an OLINT “broker” I was told and take 1.5% …still not sure if that is off the total amount or just off the monthly profit.

  505. Pat said,

    October 10, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    HD,
    It’s off the total amount including the interest. I hear good things about them but they take too long to pay out. It’s been almost 2 weeks and I still have not gotten a statement or the interest for September. September was my first month so I basically want to wait before recommending them to the members of this forum.
    It is correct that they trade with Olint but in the contract it also states that they have the right to explore other investments and that would be a bit scary I think for those including me who only want to invest in Olint.

  506. AD' said,

    October 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Pat whats welath builders website address.

    Thanks

  507. Messy-Boku said,

    October 10, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    Can I get e referral to F! investments

  508. Pat said,

    October 10, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    AD,
    Wealth builders does not have a website but email me at pat22us@aol.com and I can give you their address and phone number and you can contact them. You can use me as a referral if you need

  509. Anthony said,

    October 10, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Pat shouldn’t u know someone before referring them. Have u noticed they operate under the radar. They r a club who requires people of integrity as there clients. No offense to u AD.

  510. Pat said,

    October 10, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    Anthony,
    You are right but I thought I was doing a good deed.
    I’m not sure how much under the radar Wealth builders are since they never stated this to me. I am new to this whole thing so I was not aware of them operating this way. Cash plus in not under the radar and they need a reference for you to join so I figured it was the same with them.

  511. FXKIng said,

    October 10, 2007 at 5:56 pm

    Pipslovah im sure you lost sum pips yesterday with those short trades. The market went north

  512. HD said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    I could be wrong but I think the referal thing is more to prove that they are operating as some sort of club and that they cannot advertise or solicit business otherwise. If they do and cannot prove otherwise then they would need to operate differently and more like a traditional bank and follow more restrictive regulations….so Pat in my opinion you can continue your nice ways and refer away.

  513. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    Hey FXKING,
    Those shorts were closed long time bro and then went long on that 4hr bull divergence candle…that one is closed too after it reach my 2nd resistance point dis morning..and now short again from dat point…as it form a bearish divergence candle on d 4hr after hittin new highs… Its swingin bro…^_^ but as long as it sits ontop of my bull lines, I’m buyin dips and sellin rallies…^_^

  514. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    Also if u read my post with chris, i told him I bought on the 4hr bullish dbar yesterday…^_^ utilize ur fibs and pivot points bro..as they land right on my resistance points dis morning to tek profit and reverse down on d 4hr bear dbar again…

  515. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    Oh dont forget, triple interest wednesday today…^_^ so many are not gona send carry trades down until after 5pm…^_^

  516. Pat said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:37 pm

    Thanks HD,
    I received a couple of emails regarding my blog and after thinking about what was expressed to me I really don’t want to cause any problems so please disregard blog #506. Sorry to all.

  517. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    Hey HD,

    Yea as i mentioned in previous post about MTI, their broker I-tradefx actually told me its overpriced and that if u put in the foot work, u can find all u need to learn on the net for free! umm, free resources, lemme see if i can gather up some then let u know..
    I hope to see Pound Kat soon…as I need to tell him/her that even my robot trading system just closed off the month sept13-oct9 with 127%ROI by itself. ^_^

  518. AD' said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:52 pm

    Well said (HD) It’s nice to see we still have people wanting to help others.

    I am a member of Olint and I can assure you that is the same way they operated (PAT). It’s to prove that they are operating as a club and that they cannot advertise or solicit business.

    Thanks

    AD’

  519. AD' said,

    October 10, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    PAT

    I hope they were not nasty emails from other bloggers…about you not reff anyone to wealthbuilder.

  520. FXKIng said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    My fellow investors,

    I am hearing of trouble in the Worldwise camp again I warn you to stay away from this company it is ran by a criminal.Those of you who have already invested I wish you the best, for anyone who is thinking about investing in WW there is not much more I can tell you, I think I have enlighten you enough as to the potential of this individual. There is alot more I could tell you all but I would not want to jeopardize my stance

  521. Mr Investor said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    M

  522. FXKing said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    Pipslovah How many pips today?

  523. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    Yo FXKING,

    I don’t know what strategy u use in ur trades to lock in profits, but I like to share mine with u so u don’t lose so much…
    1) I don’t use stop loss on my strategy trades the way how beginner and even some experts use stop losses
    2) That previous statement prolly got ur eyes wide open huh…^_^ well here’s d deal..I use them in a “different” manner… When I take a trade on my given signals, its normally a very high probability trade and given that fact, it will always be in profit zone for at least 10-20pips as I trade mostly high volatile pairs…so my only use of stops is when I am in profit, I set a stop at breakeven point at even 10pips, so at least i know when market reverses on me, I wont lose anything.
    3) Also point 3, ppl might think its too early to set a stop at break even blah blah wid jus a mere 10pips or so movement…over d yrs, I find dat IF d price action actually came back to hit my stop, I’ll 90% of the time gets an even “better” price to enter the market afterwards if d current signal is still valid for me. Eg…I sold GJ at say 239.00, it went down to 238.90 or 238.80, I set my stop at break even or even lock in a mere 5pip profit if I so choose…Then price action bounced and hit my stop. No biggy, no losses there, it went up to a higher lvl at prolly say 239.40…but all my indicators still tell me to sell, and especially if a resistance or fib point is there, I would enter again from there. and now I have a even better entry price than before.
    4) One a My strategy has always been lock in profits or even set it to break even to protect my trades. Chances are that I will always get a better price entry afterwards if my initial stop get hit. So my risk:reward ratio is almost like no risk at all as I only take high probability trades.
    5) Fib lines and pivot lines are a very powerful tool, and u can set d daily pivot numbers according to your session that yu’re trading for more accurate points. I’m not sure which broker u use, but metatrader and VT trader platform has those indicators to do all d work for u to calculate d points.

  524. lover said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Pipslovah wwhat do u know about CAREIF ?

  525. lover said,

    October 10, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    AND WORLD WISE

  526. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    Yo FXKING,

    Got my daily allowance already from GJ, shorted at 240.04 this morning after seeing it topped out at 240.34..set limit at 239.00 and it hit about 2hours ago i think..price went even lower than i expected still, but still got my 104pips from it..^_^… Its wednesday afteroon, and price almost always 98% of the time refuse to go any lower because most are still Long the market to collect their triple interest at 5pm. So I’m not gona do any more shorting until afta dat coz triple interest hurts really bad when u shortin GJ…ouch…

  527. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 8:06 pm

    Hey Lover, ^_^

    Careif…umm, only know they’re into real estate..but the returns they give on real estate seems fishy tho..but hey I’m not an expert on real estate so I am in no position to judge…^_^ and no, I never venture into WorldWise as I am doing what their doing in forex so I dont think i gona give dem my money to do my work for me..^_^

  528. Chris said,

    October 10, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Pipslovah,

    Even though that post wasn’t directed to me I found it extremely helpful and now understand why you need that kind of leverage in your trading. I was just sitting here debating whether or not I need to start adjusting my initially wide stop loss up to around breakeven after being up 20-30 PIPS, even though my system showed no signs of reversal and I my profit target wasn’t reached. I was thinking moving up my stop loss too soon mine get me whipsawed out of a potentially good trade. However, after you explain the logic behind your approach I know now exactly what I need to do. Thanks a millions for all your help! I must remember to give back to all the little people when I start rakin in the PIPS like you :) lol ..lata

  529. Jamalee said,

    October 10, 2007 at 8:24 pm

    I have been with Worldwise for over a month and got my payment,(quite happy, i can now quit my job and survive off the interest) its great so far. i added some more yesterday.

    Swisscash is gone though and i lot my money, recovering with worldwise.

  530. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 8:24 pm

    Yo Chris,

    U know, that same kinda mentality is what i started off with when i first trade, but then I realize hey..ye u only in 20-30pips profit in your example..but then hard core reality kick in..U CAN NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE MARKET! IT CAN AND WILL TURN ON U WITHOUT ANY REASONING! So u see while u all in green profit there with jus 20-30pips, and u say naw..d market naw reverse, but den most times it will just to mess wid u…and what u end up with?? your positions that was once profit now turn red, and d market might just hate u enuf to hit ur wide stop loss to mek u lose even more..and den, what gona Kill u is dat u find dat 80% of d time d market will continue YOUR direction AFTER it has taken u out! ^_^ Thats hard core reality for yah bro.

  531. Patricia said,

    October 10, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    Anthony,

    Can say whether cplus will lodge your interest to an account for you, or r u required to go in to collect the cheque ? have looked at the new rates structure and am thinking of diving in.

  532. Terrence said,

    October 10, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    ok what i would like to know is this
    1) Can i go to cash plus them self and join them with a Managers check/money order (for pounds sterling) investment.

    2) If not what is the procedure i am in Jamaica.

    3) and what is the procedure for worldwise.

    4) and what is the minimum amount for cash plus to invest in pounds sterling by the way.
    5) can i invest in pounds in Worldwise.

  533. Mr Investor said,

    October 10, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    God help Jamalee, you just got a months payment from a high risk investment and your thinking about quiting your job after you just lost from another bunch of criminals . God helps the stupid

  534. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Terrence

    visit http://www.worldwisepartner.com

  535. Patricia said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    oh c’mon now Mr. Investor go easy..they’ll figure it out

  536. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    patricia u know something else ??

  537. Patricia said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Can anyone answer my question at 529, and no JK, I know nothing, just dont think we need to be too harsh, people often learn by their mistakes that’s all

    Cheers

  538. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Hey guys,

    Whats the absolute most Interest you get from these “Alternative investments companies”?
    Olint, Worldwise, Higgins, etc… anything more than 20% per mnth? and does it include return of principal or???
    Reason for asking is my bredren considering to prolly start up somthing for himself with my robot trade system coz I done tell him seh mi naw tek no more ppl on mi train already so he wanna start something on his own using my strategies. So let me know guys so I can relay the message to him..Thanks.

  539. JK said,

    October 10, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    may be interested pips lover i have a lil extra money to invest but i am wid WW only getting 12% max

    what would be the minimum investment required by ur friend?

  540. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 11:09 pm

    Hey JK,

    So far on that, i just been d middle man for him doing market research..lol to see what his potential competitors are offering.so that he may adjust his offers to be more appealing to u guys. or any comments on the matter will be appreciated, like what u like or dislike on the ones you’re on now etc.

  541. Pipslovah said,

    October 10, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    YO FXKING!!

    I hope u liking u GJ bear run after the 5pm interest roll over as i mention earlier, and now to reach new session lows now…^_^ watch out for 238.70 and then 238.4 levels…238.35 is one a my major support areas..if u shorting..can take 50% of u positions at that level. and let the others ride..but price should retrace upwards before considering another leg down tho so b careful zeeen…so Goodluck.

  542. terrence said,

    October 10, 2007 at 11:45 pm

    wat is the contact info tel No and email for the higgin investemnt group

  543. Shonique said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:01 am

    Hey can anyone give me some info about maydaisy club

  544. Shonique said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:14 am

    also refferals and info about higginswarner and minvestment

  545. Shonique said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:16 am

    please email me @ cutegirlshon_ja@yahoo.com

  546. Susan said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:36 am

    Way to go #488 Marsha, I think the same things as you do, I thin Mr. Invester is working for someone else

  547. Natalie said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:44 am

    I agree with you #494 Mr. HD. I would be raising cain and able. You know how hard me have to work and to go and make someone tek $3ml from me just like that, you must be kidding. When I finish with him, him sorry the day him born. Which Man could have owed me so much money and still in Ja. I would go to all the Media and newspaper and when I done with him, him cant set up any busines anywhere. I urge you to do the same and stop wining like a child, especially now that you said you have found 2 other persons who go scammed like you by Mr. Noel of Wwise Partners of Ruthven Rd.

  548. Waellblaech said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:44 am

    I just read the blog and it looks like maydaisy is pretty popular. Unfortunately their website isn’t very good. Can someone provide me with info about maydaisy. I don’t want to miss the party. Please email me @ waellblaech@hotmail.com.

  549. terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:48 am

    no body

  550. Natalie said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:54 am

    Mr. Investor in regards to #497, you seems to have an answer to everything. You seems to have all the connections to get information from everywhere. What a great man you are. I cant wait to see the outcome. Then I will believe you. I since I am waiting to see what you are going to do. I will ahve no regrets since I am the one who is waiting with my money still at WW. As far as I know, everything is a risk WW, Cash Plus, Olint, Maydaisy etc. So If anyone wants to take it, it’s up to them. All of them are in it for one things – Money. Anyone of them can crash at anytime.

  551. Natalie said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:11 am

    I smell a rat. I am sure Mr. FXKing and Mr. Investor is up to somethint or is the same person writing. It is easy to post a comment this website by changing name each time. What next?

  552. mark said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:17 am

    Terrence,

    Email me at: linkupgt@yahoo.com for informortion about Higgins

  553. Susan said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:41 am

    I thought Noel of WW was the only criminal

  554. Susan said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:44 am

    Patricia I hope you dont make any with other investments

  555. JK said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:54 am

    susan wat do u mean ? re 551

  556. Susan said,

    October 11, 2007 at 1:57 am

    Anthony, I went to WW for myself today and snoop around as if I was doing business. There were a lot of people there, no very crowded but the full. I saw them investing their money, some saying to the clerk at the desk that they dropped off cheques the day before. I spoke to one of the rep about my concerns, she told me is not aware of what is being said about Noel. but told me to remember that my money is 80% secure. I told her someone from this site said even though, WW said it’s secure, it’s a lie. She said If I am not comfortable I can withdraw my money before the end of the month and give them 5 working days to prepare the cheque. I will not be charged the 1% penality, if I do so before the end of the month. While going out I investigate outside, and was told why someone people said they were withdrawing their money si because when they come for their interest it is not ready, they got to understand that, it takes time to prepare the cheque for so much people. Anthony, I urge you to investigate for yourself and if you are not satisfied withdraw your money, what’s what I am going to do, get the facts for myself and if I am not confortable then I will do the same.

  557. Susan said,

    October 11, 2007 at 2:00 am

    I also showed her the website. Mr. Investor I hope you are not mad. but they ought to know what’s going on. Dont you think?

  558. JK said,

    October 11, 2007 at 2:04 am

    so wat u doin susan pulling out

  559. terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 2:11 am

    ok so the prob is that it take long to get the interest

  560. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Susan,

    Thanks for doing the ground work and posting it here. I find this very usefull since I am not down there myself.

    When you go to the office next ask if they can just pay off the 3 million dollar debt for me. Or why they will not pay it. Maybe we invested in something together and it just did not work out ?

    Also interesting to know if there is a reason the local papers are not on this guy like they were on Olint last year. Seems like this guy could be more unscrupulous than the devil. It should make a good story.

    Just checking.

  561. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:17 am

    I am thinking of rolling $100k for 3 years with Cash Plus using their new rates (17%) Can you believe that that works out to $29m in 3 years; however if you compound it for 5 years it becomes $2b. Think I am crazy for locking my money for 3 years. At the end of the day its only $100k and won’t be much if its lost.

  562. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:49 am

    Hey Patricia #529
    Cash plus prefers to lodge to an account than you going in.
    From the restructure of interest I think it would be safe to say they are encouraging people to fix and roll. However one has to way all the possibilities and see which is more feasible before diving in.
    Good luck.

  563. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:57 am

    Hey Carol it wont be much when you just start but what about when it starts pole vaulting (lol) and u cant touch it, would u be prepared to lose it after say 2 1/2 years.

  564. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:02 am

    Hi Susan,
    Thanks for the effort today as a guest said earlier united we reach. As soon as I get a chance I will also make checks. All my sisters out there I like your attitude.

  565. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:06 am

    yes…go sisters…interesting that the sisters seems to have more balls and smarts than some of us. I am sure nobody could owe Susan 3 mill.

  566. AD' said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:38 am

    Anthony what do you mean by: it starts pole vaulting ?

    Thanks

  567. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 5:13 am

    Just the logic of compound interest, starts out slow ends very fast, a couple cart wheel then a few somersault and finally it starts pole vaulting lol just my way of describing what has been happening to one of my investment.

  568. JK said,

    October 11, 2007 at 5:43 am

    snow ball effect u mean

    i hope it happens with mine lol

  569. JK said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:38 am

    http://www.highyieldsource.com

    hey guy here is a nice forum a friend of mine created
    we can discuss further about all high yield programs here !!

  570. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 11, 2007 at 10:13 am

    Well well well, I have had so much laughter observing the site that I was and still is, in shock and awe with the level of interest about money with respect to risk, trust , vulnerabily and greed.Hi every one I was the one who said it was mathematically impossible for the return on investment (ROI) to be 12% per month on a continuous basis, and so theory was strongly challenged.
    As time will tell, if the challenge turns out to be right , then I would like to tak

  571. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 10:25 am

    I am prepred to lose $100k (after all thats ONLY 29 gas tank fillups :-) However, if it crashes after 2 1/2 years – I won’t remember the measly $100k that I invested but rather the millions I would have lost …..hmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….should I take the risk???? Yeah I will – if I go into SC – mi nuh fraid a nutten :-) If this forum is here after 3 years – I will treat y’all to lunch :-)

  572. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 11, 2007 at 10:55 am

    continue from 568. take time out and congratulate the the great trader pipslovah and all the orher great traders who are doing 12% and better trading currencies, because these people are genious and deserve much respect and there will be a thing or two to be learned from such trader like Pipslovah. I look forward to the dad when you can write your own trading manual and join the world of smart traders beating the markets. How about selling the manual for say US$199:00. How about 1to 3 million copies conservatively speaking, that would be 200 to 600 million dollars.!! Think of how long it would take for you to trade that amount risk free?
    Considering that courses cost any where from US$ 400 to us$6000:00 that may work?
    I am sure you will give this some thought.
    However I am still convinced that among this site are confederates and agents and there is going to be more Swiss Cash debatle.
    I can see problems developing , the symptoms are around customercare and accounting. the efficiency of the accounting for customers are slowing eroding
    because the expansion in too rapid and ussually this will always create problems.Be vigilant.
    Anthony I hope this will help where you us all can learn a thing or too. Very interesting.
    I did some more research and found out that the worlds top traders are about 70 to 80 % accurate at best probability. So if the great Pipslovah is real
    then he is a real genius without him knowing.
    I mentioned in one of my previous breifing that when you google Long Term Capital and see how these guys were cosidered to be one of the smartest ,trading billions of dollars and failed, then you wonder.
    Maybe you pipslov could teach them a thing or two.
    Good luck to you all and stay focus and may all your dreams come through.

  573. Pipslovah said,

    October 11, 2007 at 10:59 am

    Hey Pound Kat!

    Whazzup!!!! Ye, we’re just giving our opinions and thoughts here, so please don’t feel offended or anything. ^_^ I understand your opinion on high risk, trust, vulnerability, and especially greed…but i guess we’re just too fed up with where the country’s going..hey the USD exchange rate is 71.05 when i went to the bank! So things not looking too hot for our poor little J$ anymore…and worse off for the people who are still working their butts off and barely making ends meet at the end a d month…So I must say, most are just frustrated, if u’re not born rich or inherit money etc..many are not that lucky, and especially when they have a family to look after…My bredren always says it, d richa a get richa and d poorer a get poorer, so dats y most ppl choose d easy way by robbin ppl, killing ppl fo money etc… and when dem see a nice “investment” opportunity that might give dem financial freedom even though it might last just a while, they feel its worth it. Nowadays you dont really get respected for the level of work you put in your JOB, maybe a pat on d back, or dem seh somting like “GOOD JOB xyz” but at d end a d day, its not gonna pay for your food and expenses.
    I was an IT specialist for 5yrs..was exciting at first, but then when things get more and more expensive, reality really kick in that hey I might need to hustle some more jobs especially if people are dependent on me for money..So you hustle and hustle, work 7days a week day and night just to earn dat extra buck to support yourself and whoever there maybe.
    So when I learn fx, it was my way out of that situation…and many are looking for a way out too…they rather take the risk in trusting these 10%-17% ROI companies than gettin a gun to rob sombody coz eventually all the least educated or lazy assss ppl are gona do just that…so not much greed or so, but mostly their desperate for a positive change in dere life and not live paychk to paychk nomore.

  574. Pipslovah said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:09 am

    Hey Pound Kat,

    Interesting idea…^_^, but hey that debate also came around before too…u see that 70% -80% probability u got there is just those who got investigated or actually exposed themselves..lol..most of us are actually quiet..as some countries Tax d daylight out a dem returns in FX trading…so I can tell u that % u see are only those that are “exposed”. The real geniuses are unfound, as they hide their returns in offshore banks so them dont get taxed..lol…I do the same too actually…setting up accounts in foreign banks are best bet..they love foreign ppl once they know your business or where ur money comin from is legit..and hey sad to say I’m not paying much taxes as i am still in jamaica terms “UNEMPLOYED”. I get a international debit card and credit card that I can use here. I think I’ve given this government enough of my money already ^_^

  575. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:21 am

    Anthony
    Remember the chickens are still out feeding , they are getting fat to, the longer they are out feeding the bigger the party and the slaughtering is going to be,there will basically be two choices feed or famine, win or loss, there will be no draw. How about those poor Swiss Cash victims. Do you think this will be the last set of victims?
    Do you think the oweners of swiss Cash will all dieoff. We do not know what will be their new name and what they were before Swiss Cash.
    I would like to take time out and use this media to pay tribute and have a moment of silence for all victims of Swiss Cash and future victims to be and on behalf of the members of this site wishing those who were only injured a speedy recovery and better luck next time, to those who passed away ? may your soul rest in peace.

  576. Pipslovah said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:27 am

    Oh by the way,
    If u really wanna see real results of some ppl here’s a link for u
    http://www.learncurrencytrading.com/fxforum/showthread.php?t=13893
    Its the fxcm mini contest held every month think it has results from june i think till now..
    In june result,
    Standing Country Name % Gain Prize
    1st New Zealand Niwa Nuri 346.22%
    2nd Taiwan Yu-Min Lin 259.62%
    3rd United States Anonymous 158.10%
    4th Sweden Anonymous 152.44%
    5th China Anonymous 137.58%

    July result
    Standing Country/Region Name % Gain Prize
    1st Saudi Arabia Anonymous 340.90%
    2nd USA Jack Gdowski 317.65%
    3rd Sweden Anonymous 286.41%
    4th HongKong Pang Chi Yuen 191.82%
    5th UK Anonymous 189.33%

    August
    Anonymous 345.30% United States
    Anonymous 275.71% United States
    Anonymous 172.63% United States
    Anonymous 165.45% United States
    Anonymous 158.08% Netherlands

    Sept
    Amadi, Chistopher 495.05% Nigeria
    Okpere, Emmanuel 475.25% United Kingdom
    Anonymous 430.08% United States
    Bucheeri, Mohamed 315.62% Bahrain
    Yang, Lei 220.19% China

  577. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Typographical corrections
    owners (not oweners), die off (not dieoff), two (not too)

  578. trapezium said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:41 am

    Damn !

  579. Pipslovah said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:45 am

    Yep,
    So there’s consistently ppl meking ova 20% /mnth EASILY…^_^

  580. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:50 am

    Can someone explain what swisscash is/was….was it one of those internet based HY investment clubs ?….or was it a Jamaican outfit ?

  581. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Guys these things are all risky….even Olint which looks better and better as time passes could “crash” one day if they don’t have their accounting and controls in order…How do we know David Smith can keep up the momentum …the guy must want to retire someday…what happens then…is there a process in place to wrap up the business in an orderly fashion ? is that even possible with this kind of business model ? These things are all risky you set your goals take a tolerable amount of risk, take your profits and move on.

  582. Pipslovah said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    LOL, just saw that one with the billions of dollars thing Pound Kat…
    Honestly, as i told Chris here b4, my trading style and strategy is totally different from most traders and even some “experts” they call themselves. I’m just doing my thing to enjoy life coz hey our aim is to enjoy it right..??
    Making billions?? naw not that ambitious… at the moment with my 8 “clients” friends, dem puttin at least 50k a month, so thank God for leverage, It is quite ok to turn that over 200% once i dont get lazy and maintain my regular 10% a day…so from d 8 client, i clock in approx 400k USD a month on my commisions..and dats wha..4.8mil USD a yr…i can live wid dat ^_^

  583. KIDCHILLIN said,

    October 11, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    As a born Jamaican i am happy to see people are willing to take a chance instead of keeping their money under the bed like past generations. It is refreshing to see something positive headlining the papers rather than another person getting killed. I take my hat off to Cash Plus for not only helping the poor man but keeping a lot of the realestate Jamaican owned. Jamaica has been selling off it’s major assets to the “MAN” for years so big up to Cash Plus. If you are someone who has the extra cash to invest, more power to you. This is a Pipslovah said investing in FX was his way out and all these other investments will be the green light for a lot of people. No one knows how long this will last, but I say ride the wave as long as you can.

  584. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Hey Pound,
    Knew we could depend on u to bring a little life to the party and trust me u did. I got to admit am enjoying this round. I am just a little squirrel gathering my nuts for the winter.
    With the figures and terms Pips uses (that is Pipslovah and not the pips he makes) and the research u do before commenting I got to take my hat off to u both.
    Question to u though Pound if indeed Pips wrote that book and u bought same and his theory was workable would u trade a dollar for a brotha or sista cause I say again as long as there r real traders there will be lenders.
    I too pay my respect to the fallen soldiers, and i implore the injured to not lay down and die but dust off themselves, go back on the battlefield search for one them fat chickens feeding, and burst the throat before it takes off to roost. If u don’t feel up to that game then continue the 9 to 5.
    I am just a squirrel doing my 9 to 5 and gathering my nuts.

  585. AD' said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Well said # 582 KIDCHILLIN i like your outlook on life.

    Regards.

  586. AD' said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    #583

    Anthoney i had to give you and a+++++ for those words man you need…to write and leave the 9-5 and you would even have more nuts to gather.

    Regards.

  587. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    Carol,
    I hope to dine with u, as a matter of fact if we dine we could share the bill because I should also be in a better position.
    Did not know they still made them like u though, because most of my sistas ain’t that brave. u go girl and all the luck.
    I would implore u though put in a contingency plan because wishes r not horses we cant ride them.

  588. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    interesting
    wish i could find someone who gaining these 100% a month gains using the forex so i can lend a one money to. like a partnership of sort. :( )

  589. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    Thanks AD
    Just keeping my eye on the prize and trust me this forum helps. We hustling in a crazy world.

  590. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    Thanks for the tip Anthony but I do have contingencies in place – the mundane stuff like omni, insurance, JMMB etc. etc.- have to keep the kids education money safe – know what I mean? I have decided that I can afford to throw away the $100k. Anwyay good luck to you too in your bid for riches :-)

  591. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    I am Andre P. Llewellyn, the creator of the blog MAXIMIZING WEALTH, I have been reading the posts on the forex trading and am very motivated and interested in creating a page on the FOREX.

    The FOREX page would facilitate ‘all things forex’ which would give traders (including PIPSLOVAH, FXKING, my friends,etc) and other individuals interested in trading a chance to read interestingg docs, download forex materials, provide valuable forex URLs, post comments, ask questions and share profitable strategies. I will post blogs on the forex market for begginers (of which I am a part) and intermediate traders to read.

    My ultimate vision is to develop a network of good and extremely good traders to teach (for little or no cost) the grassroots Jamaicans practical strategies of the forex market and how they can start trading. If it goes further then that would be great.

    Everyone, please offer your comments so that I can know if its a good idea.

    Andre

  592. Sunflower said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    Andre

    Great idea, would love to have a mentor.

  593. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    Regarding Mr. Investor and others who act as the FSC of the blog :) … There is merit in advising poeple against unhealthy investment behaviour and/or unsafe investment opportunities, I think it is needed especially because people (including individuals who have commented on this blog) dont seem to be interested in doing their research. However, I think there is much merit in allowing people to make their decisions without verbally chastising them or lambasting the character of other individuals/clubs/groups without providing sufficient empiral information.

    The blog facilitates freedom of expression within the vein of discrection, however, as administrator, if I deem a series of comments to erode such a facility then I will be forced to delete the comment(s).

    PEOPLE THERE WILL BE INFORMATION THAT I CANT GET TO YOU BECUASE I AM TOO BUSY OR JUST DONT KNOW. REMEMBER WE ARE OUR GREATEST RESOURCE, LETS CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

    Andre

  594. Dominik said,

    October 11, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Andre

    Excellent idea….. i would be very interested

  595. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    Me too

  596. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    I appreciate all the help. Three cheers for the host.

  597. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    i wonder what is the penalty with Cash Plus that is if i join the 3yr plan and i draw out in 2yrs instead
    hhow much would it be (the penalty that is)

  598. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    and is cash plus lingering or losing out why they have these new plan up to 5yrs
    $200,000 in 5 yrs become over J$4,851,013,032.

    Doesn’t this raise some issues that the company is definitely facing cashflow problems or is in a bind as we speak now

  599. Peter said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    Since we are so deeply involved in FX trading let’s listen to what mathetes and others have to say. Accidentially i found an intro to FX on the website: http://www.gftforex.com Their brochure is “GFT’s Introductory Forex Trading Guide”. It’s interesting for the basics. Eventually I would want to find out if I can do FX trading myself. Any opinions?
    Cheers
    Peter

  600. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    I am sorry I think I posted a dead link to the Higgins Warner Post. Here is the live link on Higgins Warner. http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/higgins-warner/

  601. Messy-Boku said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    Great idea. Mathetes

  602. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 6:54 pm

    FOREX page sounds good !

  603. Patricia said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:05 pm

    Anthony,
    Thanks for the info. While I’m a risk taker..I definitely wont risk more than I can afford to lose. I really suggest that folks periodically take profits and spread the risk around.

    Also as a J’can out in the cold…I really appreciate the ground work many of the posters are doing and their sharing of info. I will continue to check this site as often as possible…….especially in light of what Andre is proposing to do.

    Pipslova, all the best to you…continue to share your info..many will benefit

    And, like Anthony I am thrilled at the number of risk taking sisters…you go girls!!!!

  604. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    You welcome Patricia,
    See you all later

  605. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Did some research on Swiss Cash:

    This was an offshore (wrt Jamaica) High Yield investment program. 25% per month. There is no one name associated with it as far as I could find. Seems to be similar to a lot of the HYIP on the web. (www.hyip.com)

    I would say this is a different deal from WW contrary to what some on this blog would suggest. WW has an office in Jamaica anybody can go down there make up noise or bun it down if they try tief people money. I just don’t buy this story about this Noel dude. Can’t swear for him but I think I will continue taking my chances for now. Fact is WW is fairly new on the scene so better now than later. After a few months of profits I will take out my principal and then start taking some of the profits on the profits every two months.

    In addition Swiss Cash was shutdown by the Malaysian government they did not just close shop and run. That said they probably could have still given people back there money.

  606. Mr. C said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    Big up Andre, i also think your forex page is a good idea and would be interested.

  607. JK said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    http://www.highyieldsource.com u guys can check this out!!!

  608. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Ok I have changed my mind – I am going to let $100k roll in Cash Plus for one year and then let $100k remain for the 3 years —- sounds like a plan? I knew people who were rolling like crazy in Swiss Cash and look what happened. Swiss Cash was good while it lasted though.

  609. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    anyone has answers to my question595 and 596

  610. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    boljamaica.com
    anyone knows this one

  611. Althea said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    great idea Andre’ and will be very interested

  612. FXNoob said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    Thanks for your words of advise pipslovah…….will start my journey asap.

  613. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    Carol

    Security of one’s initial capital and the element of tenure/time in a high risk opp. is always a challenge when u dont have too much money to play around with. Here are “suggestions”

    PLAN A. What you could do is allow your J$100,000 to roll over for 6mnths @ 14% mnthly at CashPlus, you will get around $119,497 profit at the end of the maturity date (6mnths). You will have a little over $200,000 (P + C) to play around with from there. Put the Profit in a more secure roll over instrument and add monthly to it (even J$5000. Then reinvest J$100,000 for 1- 3 years IN CashPlus.

    PLAN B. If you want to play some more – after you get back the J$119,497 profit put it in a secure investment (same as in plan A), reinvest Jthe remaining $100,000 for 1 yr in CasshPlus (it yields around J$481,790 after 1yr). With 60- 65% of that amount (J$481,790) buy US$ (though the Canadian economy booming* I still would buy US$) and reinvest it in CashPlus (ur choice 4 how long). Invest the remaining 25-30% in a secure investment.

    After doing this you would:
    1. Have diversified your investments (a bit)
    2. Given ur financial ‘portfolio’ a bit more security
    3. Position yourself to make compounding interest work for you on both ends
    4. Position yourself to make the sliding J$$ work for you

    Blessings.

  614. Carol said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    Thanks for the advice Mathetes I really will make good use of it. I hope you don’t mind if I call on you for more advice should the need arise :-)

  615. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    You are welcome, anytime

  616. Terrence said,

    October 11, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    no answers ;(

  617. mathetes said,

    October 11, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Sorry Terrence never saw your questions.

    Regarding #595 – You could call them and find out if there is a penalty. Usually there is.

    Regarding #596 – I cant tell you why Cashplus has gotten, in the words of Beyonce, an ‘UPGRADE’. They could be trying to ensure longevity, increase the capital base of their operations to make their future projections a reality, on the verge of callapse :) or sumn else. What would encourage some research on the investors part (still might not come up with anything), but never just assume.

    Regarding boljamaica – I dont know exactly what they are about, but many such groups have emerged this is not the first and won’t be the last. They are involved in:

    1. Forex – they Offer 10% per month
    2. Display fixtures
    3. Website designing
    4. Loans to individuals interested in acquire real estate
    Link: http://www.boljammaica.com

    Andre

  618. john said,

    October 11, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Be careful with chris and pipslovah. I smell a rat. all this pips bullshit we dont want to hear it. Just show the people your profit and loss statements..Thats all. Anyone can come in here and talk that crap. If you are an experience trader and worth your weight in gold…Just show the people your profit and loss statements and stop taking up space with all that pips bullshit. Lets weed the fake ones out.

  619. Anthony said,

    October 11, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Hey Carol,
    I see that u have started explore other Avenues.
    I think that that is key when it comes to ones finances, when u give your self room to breath, for that reason i wondered y u would want to tie your money down for three years. 10 working days to me at times is like eternity, especially with all the rumors that fly around at times.

  620. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    John, I think there are a lot of people (including myself) that are interested in hearing about the pips.

    traders keep talking and informing !

  621. HD said,

    October 11, 2007 at 11:35 pm

    Susan,

    anything new today. I (and others I think) really appreciated all that work you did on the ground yesterday…you were like a hot piece of scotch bonnet.

  622. AD' said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:18 am

    Hello Mathetes

    1. What’s your take on f1investments. ?

    2. What would you do with $200,000 US, where would you put it to split the risk?

    3. What do you think of JMMB Accounts?

  623. Pipslovah said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:37 am

    Whoa, John,

    Don’t know if you work for the governemnt or what but hmm, a rat…let’s see.
    1) I have never once tried to scam anyone here once i started posting. All i do is to provide a logic fact that there are better ways to make money out there WITHOUT depending on other people like prolly risking yourself with those high yield investment companies that might shut down and run away with your hard earned money one day.
    2) If you think forex is bullshit, then well what can say..its your life.. if someone is trying to show you a better way to life but with your stubborn ness who refuse to change for the better life that the new path might bring..so be it eehhh..
    3) All i do here is to making suggestions, and already providing hard sound proof of what fx market can bring with those live statements from the fxcm LIVE ACCOUNT CONTEST PER MONTH..they’re not demo accounts that the ppl were using by the way in case you’re wondering its fake money. I don’t think i need to prove more of what FX market can bring to u all…
    4) So I guess this is the exact reason why we don’t reach no where in JA huh…Why don’t u ask cashplus or worldwise for their P&L statement ehh…and see if their business is legit huh… Oh by the way, I’m not trying to get clients here too so if you’re part of one of those “competitors” and feel “threatened” by me and what i was showing these people…then well fine…I don’t need this kinda shit from u.Peace..Goodluck ppl

  624. Susan said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:40 am

    HD nothing new today. stayed put. Anybody
    WW owed should go and asked for their money themselves. I agree with #603, they have an office here so I would go down there and make up lots of noise. I would also right a story about them and put it in the newspaper for everyone to see. I am trying my luck still. As I said whever I see any comment on this site, I will read and check out the info for myself before deciding for myself. After all, everyone of them are a risk.

  625. Natalie said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:41 am

    Mr. Mathetes, how are you. What is your advise on WW and Cashplus etc. epecially WWise, since there is so many negative comments.

  626. HD said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:43 am

    Geez…him gone now

  627. HD said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:44 am

    what a shame

  628. Susan said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:48 am

    HD mind you get burn

  629. Natalie said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:54 am

    HD don’t worry yourself, he will be back. In the meantime occupy yourself with something else

  630. Valerie said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:21 am

    Great informative site. It is worth taking the risk with “High risk investment.” When one reads about some of the most successful people of our time, they were the ones who were willing to ‘take that risk’
    Wish I had knowledge of this before, but as the saying goes “its never too late for a shower of rain” ..No time like the present..Wish me luck people..at the end of the day I will have hope…… that most of my dreams will be a reality…
    The Fx site sounds powerful. Again, thanks everyone.
    Regards

  631. Susan said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:25 am

    Correction: write a story and whenever a see a comment

  632. HD said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:26 am

    Natalie,

    thanks for the advice :-) …trust me I am busy around the clock….I work with 3 computers around me…one for work one for personal and one for whatever Ideas I come up with…I am always in front of a computer …I am busy….thanks for the advice :-)

    Susan,

    Not sure which you are talking…forex trading or WW…but thanks for the advice…as I said I am spreading my money around and sticking with my timelines so keep my fingers cross and I should be good…actually today I just registered into another inv program in the US that some Jcans up here are gravitating towards and I am also trading stocks as usuall. I havent put up any money to trade forex yet but I am really trying to learn the “pips” before I do that because it is very risky.

    Cheers :-)

  633. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:36 am

    Hi Susan

  634. Carol said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Anybody knows anybody in Cash Plus – I need an inside link. I here it is torture to get through – the crowd is crazy. I need to just walk in and walk out – can anyone assist me?

  635. Carol said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:41 am

    Or better yet – does anybody here work with Cash Plus :-) ?

  636. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:46 am

    Hi Susan
    Hey Pips
    On the point about the FSC mentioned by our host, I remember once reading where Brian Wynter on the point of him fighting olint, made mention that if David Smith could actually sustain what he started it would appear to him that David had found the goose that lay the golden egg.
    I am now saying that you seem to have found a goose that is laying platinum eggs. You are the man.

  637. Carol said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:48 am

    Anthony – just got ahead of myself I guess :-)

  638. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:08 am

    Carol,
    To tell u the truth I was viewing it from your perspective when I just heard about it. But being born free I hate to be cornered.
    I want to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

  639. Michael said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:17 am

    I have been reading the comments on this blog for weeks now and have found some to be truly inspiring.Research on the companys we invest in is a must, also recommendation by an experienced and trusted investor. I am in Higgins Warner because o f a trusted friend but I also researched ,even calling Argentina. I still think it’s risky but to make gains we must risk “MONEY”.
    I hear a lot of fear surrounding Cash Plus.I like this company very much. It has acquired a lot of assets and from what I see in the Gleaner I appears these were cash purchases.These companies seem to be all making money as we speak and there are big future plans.The new higher rates and longer fixed terms I think are designed specifically to have more money for projects in the future. Drax Hall 800 acre property ,I think this is going to be a gold mine.I must admit it’s a big risk, but with big risk comes big rewards .Hence the massive potential payouts on 3year and 5 year account. By next week I will be opening a few accounts including a 3 and 5 year account.
    Finally be patient with each other and respectful of others opinion.

  640. lover said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:32 am

    Rich people: fortunate, lucky, selfish, and arrogant? Or highly educated, caring, brilliant individuals? Becoming rich isn’t hard, but it does require a bit of time and knowledge. Having time to get rich, educating oneself, and buying assets are the three key factors in attaining untold wealth.
    Rich people usually either have or make time to get rich. Most people that now own huge mansions, have wonderful riches, and drive the nicest cars usually begin taking the road to riches in their spare time. One plan, the most common, is to work at a low-risk, steady job until one has enough money to invest in something that will feed one for the rest of their life. But before one can invest in anything, one first has to educate oneself.

    Although the best way to educate oneself in a particular investment is to have a mentor, and thereby gaining valuable hands-on experience, another excellent way to do this is to listen to tapes and CDs and to read books on the subject. I have done both, mainly pertaining to real estate, but also I have read a wonderful book about making money on the Internet, called Multiple Streams of Internet Income, by Robert Allen.
    Lastly, after creating time to get rich, and educating oneself, one simply MUST buy assets that will create money for one, and not liabilities and toys such as a new car every other year, and boats. These come only after one can prove that he is capable of handling and keeping money. Simply put, according to multi-millionaire Robert Kiyosaki: “Assets will feed you, and liabilities will eat you.” An example of an asset is a rent-house, or stocks and bonds in a certain company. Only, that is, if the company is good and the stocks are ultimately going up in value.

    In conclusion, we see that the three most important ways the rich keep getting richer are: having or making time, subject education, and buying assets. These are the key factors influencing wealth. I personally plan on educating myself in real estate, as it seems the simplest and safest way of getting rich.

  641. lover said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:05 am

    pipslova,” they can’t keep a good man down”.. don’t be discourage by haters!!!!!!!!!

  642. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:12 am

    Hi Susan, with respect to your recent visit to wwise.
    Don’t you think your girl double agent Juliet and her confederates who are always defending wwise would have beat you to it by informing Noel, Blithe and associates ( wwise management) long before you get there about this site?
    Or, are you the same Juliet or a wwise double agent or confederate?
    Those of you who play 3 card monty will understand what’s going on.
    If you are not a confederate, here is the litmus test, when you alledged to have gone to inform management, if they appear not have known about this site prior to you telling them, then you know that they are fake, phony, fraud because I am 100% sure Juliet (double agent ) and others would have inform them long before you.

  643. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:24 am

    Pipslovah, thanks for the info, great .
    I am so happy for you that things are going well and you are pretty much 100% accurate in such a high risk operation, really? wow!!
    I would like to suggest to you and all the others , whenever you are in a of position financial strenght all remember the less fortunate, give back a little,
    remeber some one less fortunate and you will be blessed and you fortune will be multiplied. Never hoard money, it’s never good .

  644. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:26 am

    Andre, great idea and congratulations on your site.
    I do have fun interacting.

  645. FXNoob said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:46 am

    pipslovah

    Please don’t allow one stupid comment to stop the flow

  646. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:08 am

    Anthony, I am not comfortable with trading currency to make such a killing like pipslovah and be as accurate 100 % of the time and therefore would not recommend this to you or anyone at this time until it’s back tested and proven by myself. I have known too many sad stories, money is too hard to come by and once it’s attained it should not be risked to the point where one can not sleep at nights. There are much better investments out there where the Principal can be preserved and protected. The rich goal can not be attained as quickly as emphasized on this site.
    The common problem that is inherent in this site, is the speed at which everybody wants to become rich. Riches should never be pursued in a hurry,
    99 % of the time something is going to go wrong.
    Example, one may make one 100 mil in a hurry and because of the speed factor, will loose 100 mil in a hurry because of the speed mode.
    there is nothing wrong with a 20 to 30 % return per year and can be done very comfortably . At times one can do 100 % per year with real Estate investments if one knows Real Estate.
    Of all investments Real Estate is the best bar none, there are problems there too , again you have to know what you are doing. If you are a professional, there is never a bad time to buy.
    later I will give you a website about a top currency trader who does a lot of diversification in Real Estate Investments big time.

  647. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:19 am

    Yow Pips
    Pound is in the building and u r missing the party.
    Pound could u answer #582?

  648. HD said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:37 am

    We have nothing against ideas. We’re against people spreading them. – General Augusto Pinochet of Chile

  649. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:38 am

    All of you make sure you google these sites, facinating stuff

    Google :
    Julian H Robertson

    Joseph Lewis currency trader

  650. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:45 am

    #644 PoundKatRidge

    Bear in mind that not everyone is having sleepless nights, so dont make that assumption.

    The story has always been the same, if you have an aversion to risk, stay away… If youre gonna have sleepless nights, stay away… People continually try to fool themselves into believing that they can take risk when they know deep inside they are not the type…

    But if you really evaluate yourself and know that you cant leave it alone, if you can then go right ahead…

  651. Gail said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:05 am

    I live in the US and I joined LEWFAM in July of this year. I was told by client services that since I live in the US I would have to have my LEWFAM account managed through GAIN CAPITAL, which is part of J.P. Morgan. Well my LEWFAM account loss money. When I called client services to question the lost, the person told me that they had a new trader and that he was a good trader and I should just keep my money in the account and eventually the account will make money. Then she said that the trader was going to stop for awhile. She said that David Smith no longer trades for LEWFAM. Does this sound strange to anyone who is a member of LEWFAM. I took my mony out and withdrew my power of attorney authorizing LEWFAM t o trade on my behalf. What happened to the guaranteed eight per cent. Ths is discouraging for me because I took the money I invested in LEWFAM from my retirement account. I had been doing the math and thought that I would become a millionaire in three years. What do I do now. Should I ut my money back in LEWFAM Any advice?

  652. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:15 am

    I understand your point Pound but let us look at it from the perspective of the man who lives pay check to pay check. Before all this the poor man would dream that he had a piece real estate and when he woke he would be so upset.
    Now if that man can throw say a partner collect say two early draws he can enter one of these institutions take the interest and continue paying the partner. After clearing partner he would actually have a starting capital and start working that money hoping to get in the real estate market one day and thus his dreams could actually become a reality. What I can personally say is that these high risk ventures actually fine tunes u to become a better money manager. The reason being is when u find something that gives your small money which is paper weight the chance to become heavy weight u start focusing on the possibility u never even knew existed.
    Don’t get me wrong pound I am not defending the get rich quick phenomena all I am saying with our present economy in Jamaica this is the best thing that ever happened for some who had lost hope.
    I commend David Smith and Carlos Hill and I very much like the mission statement ” Building a brighter future for Jamaicans” Do u know the pride I feel when I say drive New Kingston and see the Hylton and other acquisitions knowing i am a part of this. One can only hope that these great men will continue to find wisdom and share the dream they have with the regular persons hear in JA. I personally hope for the best re these companies but if the worst should say happen we will have to wheel and come again, as the saying goes ” Once there is life there is hope”
    Also note the man who owns the real estate can be seen daily at these institutions because he is not prepared to sit and allow the regular man to surpass him so in Ja a lot of people r getting in on the moment.
    Pound the bread is hot and we r eating it.
    Hope I am not considered a double agent. lol

  653. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:33 am

    The sites above was not the real stuff. Here they are and remember we are in the top of the first inning. I would never dicouraged anyone from investing.
    My point is you can and may make 100 mil in one day and loose it all and more another day or year. here are my facts. here are my proof irrespective of how good you are.

    Google Bank of England Big loss

    Quantum Fund Big Win

  654. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:37 am

    There are 8 more innings to go in this game and the bullpen is runnig out of bowlers, or are they hiding in the closet.
    When I read the 2 sites above I felt it for the Govenor and the Queen, I almost shed tears for the victims.

  655. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:38 am

    Another thing I remembered Pound is that I like the look in the bank tellers eyes when I present a check from one of these institution because I remember when they use to discourage, now they actually ask u for info re these companies and yes I have seen at least one doing the same thing I was doing at a comp.
    Yeah man bring out that money counter and let us count it the easy way.lol

  656. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:55 am

    Poorriskteka, first of all, you started out wrong by just your name, there can be nothing more negative than this name that you have choosen. I hope you are not an agent?
    Please google the the last two web sites as in #651 and see #649 and then if all your questions are not answered, I will be happy to answer them for rich you, and please change your name from poor.

  657. damian said,

    October 12, 2007 at 6:09 am

    In response to post #589 by Andre, I think that would be a fantastic idea to set up a blog on FOREX, so beginners like myself can learn from the more experience.

  658. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 12, 2007 at 6:12 am

    no agent here i am a proud banker with one of the finest financial institutons in JA, FirstCaribbean ….

    and yes i am quite poor financially, but i do dabble in a bit of risk… hence the name dont think it needs to be changed, sorry…

  659. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 12, 2007 at 6:16 am

    i understand where u are coming from poundkat but u cant knock an individual who after evaluating themselves and their choice of investment thoroughly & decide to take a little risk….

    taking a risk isnt necessarily equated to greed…

    in every area of life risk management is employed … the banks do it, we do it almost everyday and not only in the monetary aspects of our lives…

  660. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 12, 2007 at 6:19 am

    Anthony, see # 649, this is what I mean when I said that chickens will come home to roost, at least gail seem to be severely injured, just escape fatality, let us all wish her well and thank her for coming forward with her honesty and I am sure she will save a lot of people, I know she will not save the gamblers, especially those who are Camanas Park Race horse residents.
    Sorry gamblers are verry hard to be healed.
    Anthony, it does not take money to buy Real Estate, It takes Knowledge, you then find the deal , then you bring in investors just like Cash plus is doing.
    Building buys buildings, you start small building a foundation and if your foundation is strong, your growth can be infinite, but you must start some where. You must also know the rules before you purchase ( again knowledge).
    Here are some of the rules, always solve a problem when you are targeting a property such as seller must sell,not want to sell.
    Never fall in love with the property, only with the numbers, just to mention a few.
    You must also try and have the discipline to save irrespective of how small.

  661. Carol said,

    October 12, 2007 at 10:29 am

    Any inside link to Cash Plus?????????????????????????? Pleeeaaaase. I need to join today and I aint join that line.

  662. Susan said,

    October 12, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Hi Anthony

  663. Susan said,

    October 12, 2007 at 11:25 am

    For your info Pound Kat Ridge, I did my snooping before I approached the agent. I watched people who were there and I think you are lobbying for someone else, but you wont get me to change my mind unless I now what’s going on for myself. If I loose that’s just life. That’s what life is about, I’ll just dust myself off and start again. I urge you, if he owes you go to the police, the newspaper and the media. Go to the office and inform everyone you see there. JUST STOP WHINING! I”m tired of it.

  664. rie said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    great to read the different comments I am really learning more and more.

  665. Mr. C said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Carol if by some miracle you are able to get them on the phone you can ask them if you are able to lodge the funds to their account and send a fax of the deposit slip for confirmation so that they can credit/activate your account. Online application is available as well, so maybe this option is available online after registering. hope someone here will be able to confirm if this can work. but if i was doing this method i would deposit an amount like $101,000.00 so that it might be easier for them to identify my deposit (i am assuming here that most deposits are $100,000.00 flat)
    Pipslovah…….hope u change ur mind, u av been a great source of encouragement to everyone who trades or have the desire to.

  666. HD said,

    October 12, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    well said…kind of tired of it too, the rumors, conspiracy theory, skepticism, scinisism, unsubstanciated remarks and some plain ignorance too. I probably won’t bother check back again for another week. Almost all the ladies, Anthony, kidchilin, the site administrator (mathetes) have some good comments and advice. Pound you make some really good challenging remarks and arguments which is very good but ease up on some of the unnecesary negative stuff dude, and by that I mean the negative double agent stuff and spies and crap. The stuff about business model and the math you give and how these companies sustain themsleves are all interesting things we should continue to comment on. I actually agree with some of this as I commented earlier the David Smiths of these companies could decide to retire tomorrow or God forbid get hit by a truck or just say dem tired and go about them business. The stuff about good accounting and management is also important information. There is good criticism I guess and bad lets ease up with the bad stuff for now…tired

  667. Michael said,

    October 12, 2007 at 1:41 pm

    Hi Gail I understand how you feel.Do some more research on Lewfam and other investments and then decide which one seems to be less risky to you ,then invest an amount of money that you can afford to “RISK”. Remember when you invest it’s a chance you are taking ,there are no guarantees just our hopes and expectations. Most successful investors or business people have suffered losses, but inorder to have been successful they had to continue to persue there goals. I would also recommend reading “RICH DAD POOR DAD” by Robert Kiyosaki. I agree with some of what #638 LOVER said about gaining knowledge but on the other hand you have rich and poor people with the same kind of behaviors.

  668. DR said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Read this article: what are your thoughts?

    http://www.jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20071012/business/business4.html

  669. Carol said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    Thanks Mr. C – will look into that.

  670. DR said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    Cash Plus getting ready to be registered with FSC…what do you think about that?

    http://www.jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20071012/business/business4.html

    Can you imagine the ripple effect this is going to have? Will NCB, BNS etc crash?

    Why is BNS refusing to accept cheques from Cash Plus? Are the other banks going to do the same?

  671. DR said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Cash Plus getting ready to be registered with FSC…what do you think about that?

    http://www.jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20071012/business/business4.html

    Can you imagine the ripple effect this is going to have? Will NCB, BNS etc crash?

    Why is BNS refusing to accept cheques from Cash Plus? Are the other banks going to do the same?

  672. Chris said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Pipslovah,

    Please dont let John upset or bother you…I among others really appreciate the time you put into writing those long novels you like to post :) I know it feels like a slap in the face when somebody says something like that without taking the time to do any kind of RESEARCH..I mean, I have no problems with people disagreeing with me about whether or not something is possible..but please based it on something besides just a lack of knowledge and ignorance on the subject…Don’t tell me to proof to you thats its possible, why dont you stop being lazy and PROVE TO ME THATS ITS IMPOSSIBLE! just because you dont understand something, its doesn’t mean its fake or its a lie..what kind of close minded logic is that?!?! The more fortunate get knowledge handed down to them, the less fortunate must go out and seek it! Otherwise, you’ll have nobody but yourself to blame for not living up to your full potential…Nobody here is trying to force anything on anybody…Just open you mind up the possibilities, do your research, draw your own conclusions, and go find your own path to happiness…

    Ok now back to you Mr. Pipslovah!!! I decided to skip the gym yesterday and go straight home to have a long talk with my robot trading system(still in the development/backtesting stage)…I told my robot about how well your robot is doing and that he needs to get his act together and start making me PIPS! lol :) told him he should be ashamed of himself! lol Anyway after 4 straight hours of coding(and no dinner :( ), I made some enhancements to my robot’s logic based on your advice…Now my robot automatically moves my Stop Loss(initially 3 times the average trading range-ATR) to 15PIPS above/below the current price whenever I’m in the green (profitable) 20 or more PIPS. So far, so good…my disgraced robot actually made me money in my simulated account while I slept :D …thoughts?? Tell your my robot seh, him coming for him :) Thanks again and ignore the negative nonesense! lata

    PS. Can anyone else comment on Lewfam losing money last month??? I found that pretty interesting…

  673. Mr. C said,

    October 12, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    Things that make u go mmmmmmm
    Can the bankers or anyone here say if it would be possible for the other banks to do the same i.e. refuse cheques from CP?
    If the group of institutions that makes up the banker’s association decide that they are gonna refuse these cheques what will be the possible options available to us?
    Is it any at all possible for the BA to come up with some mumbo jumbo and ask him to close his existing accounts (or stop accepting lodgements to these accounts) and leave them without a bank?
    if this can happen? what would be our next move?

  674. AL said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Gail, I had the same experienc but I took care of it. I know what happened . I should be able to tell you what to do.

  675. Dominik said,

    October 12, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    #649 Gail …. The US LewFam account uses a different trader. I have spoken to the LewFam office in the US a few times, but have not opened an account with them. I live in the US but i have the efund account, which is still traded through OLINT. Anyone can open an efund account as long as you have a vaild ID (passport, drivers license, etc.) Please see the efund’s past performance here http://www.lewfamclub.com/Performance.html

    If you would like a referral just send me an e-mail dswabes@comcast.net

  676. lover said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    is it true that bns is not accepting cheques from c.p ?????

  677. Alwyn23 said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Hey guys, I have been reading this blog for a while now but this is my first comment. First of all I want to congratulate and thank Andre for creating this medium. I am sure when he started this blog it was a means for people involved and looking to be involve in investment clubs to have a voice and now we do
    For all who doubt the power and potentials of forex, please see below. Remeber people there are going to be winners and losers

    “The participants in the currency exchange markets have traditionally been the central and commercial banks, corporations, institutional investors, and hedge funds managers. In 2002, Bank of America alone made a $530 Million profit in Forex trading as stated on their annual statement under “Global Investment Income”. In 1986, Caterpillar made a 100 Million profit in Forex trading and would have actually had an operating loss for the year on their normal business if it were not for that profit from Forex. In 2003, half of Daimler Chryslers 2Q operating profit was from currency trades, making more money on foreign exchange than by selling cars.”

  678. Patricia said,

    October 12, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Alwyn23,

    I might add that it is well known that Australia sorted out their debt prob with FX trading…in fact many corporations use FX/Global Invetsment Income to shore up their balance sheet. Some wouldn’t make a profit without it.

    Knowledge is key, so too is prudence…ppl should not just hit out and discredit w/out full knowledge.Ultimately ppl should always do their research, listen to other ppl’s experience, weigh the risks in every transaction and decide for themselves what they are prepared to do.

    No doubt there are many scams and BS around, but dont simply lambast because you dont understand or have a shared experience.

    I for one was told about FX trading back in 2004 by Mayberry and was forwarded their demo software…was very cynical about it, mainly due to ignorance, ( back then only into stocks, mutual funds & R/Estate)then in’05 heard about Olint, and started doing research on FX

    By the beginning of year I was comfortable enough to go the FX route and I was prepared to take greater risks inorder to maximize wealth….risk taking doesn’t mean greed and/or carelessness..I started very cautiously and am now looking at other investment options..the bottom line is RESEARCH, ASK PLENTY QUESTIONS,LISTEN, WEIGH,and ACT WITH FINANCIAL PRUDENCE…

    CHEERS

  679. Patricia said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    Dominik, noticed that lewfam hasn’t posted their return for September. Can you say what it was..I know for Olint it was 13.24%

    Thanks

  680. Dominik said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    Patricia, LewFam’s return for September was 11.92%.

  681. AL said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    Lewfam was 11.92

  682. simple said,

    October 12, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Greetings I would appreciate some detailed info on may daisy, minvestments and the Higgins Warner group. I currently have a significant sum to invest.

    May daisy/ Higgins Warner/ minvestments
    1. Has anyone been with them for more than 7 months?
    2. Do they pay on time?
    3. Do they return your principal at the end of the period?
    4. What percent of the principal is secured if any?
    5. can it be paid into a current bank account eg an NCB acc?

    you can post your responces here or at ssteppa@yahoo.com

    thanks in advance.

  683. Alwyn23 said,

    October 12, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Patricia thanks for the comment. As you stated knowledge is key. With everything new, it will face skepticism. I don’t have a problem with that, but someone not knowing all the facts trying to deter people it is kinda irritating. All I can say is do you research people.
    I was once a skeptic, but I took the plunge first with a family member’s private club and now I am invested in two different ventures. If I lose I would bawl, but I understand upfront it is all a risk. Mi just glad sey people a Jamaica have different options other than throwing a hand of pardna and or hiding the money under them mattress

  684. David said,

    October 12, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Pipslovah

    I have been self studying and trading the forex system for over 18months. I have been trying to find someone like you to share ideas. What are your compliment of technical indicators including the time period. I am using the ma, mae, rsi and stockastics.

    d.henry677@sbcglobal.net

  685. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Hey Pound
    I say again that your views are indeed well received by me as also the research u share with the forum and as we continue to explore I am sure things we say r being put in the equation with the hope for success.
    On the point of real estate I have never ventured internationally with this but my friends do and from being around them I realize it is a lot easier say in America to acquire property although i realize it is also very easy for them to lose same re the say cities restrictions and fines if certain things r not adhered to.
    However in ja it is a total different ball game. Just take a look at properties being advertised prices r off the chart.
    What could u suggest for say a couple who pays rent, two children in school and earns say about 30k individually per month, taking into account that they r each security officers who must work 12hrs per day to achieve same?

  686. Anthony said,

    October 12, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    Personally Pound being an in the street person I have encouraged quite a few persons to do what I did an the funny thing is the few who took on the risk r a lot more positive about the way they carry themselves and also to me they gain a lot more respect from there dependents due to the fact that r able to now say buy the books for education that they did not get. For the few that did not say let greed over shadow the goals set, r now in the process of taking on other ventures less risky.
    The sad thing though is those who ridiculed my proposal and passed comments like “Them things too risky” have since jumped on the band wagon and because of the feeling that they r late for the party r exposing themselves in more ways than one.lol For their sake I hope they r really not too late because they r indeed running like horses visored eying the prize but unaware if danger lurks. The funny thing about same is that if say u identified the danger and went on the track to warn them they would run u over. Pound kindly note only one of the ventures I introduced them to actually offers a commission for a referral which I have never even received, so this was never done for the money but more for the way I feel to see another poor man with hope gleeming in his eyes. It is indeed a lovely feeling.

  687. Junior said,

    October 12, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    Simple posed a question and noone seems to pay it any attention. I think its a valid one. The site was created to share the knowledge.

  688. Carol said,

    October 13, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    Hey guys I am thinking of putting quite a tidy sum in Maydaisy – does anybody have any information on this organization – I hear it is very good but in terms of experience – how long has it been around. Am I getting ahead of myself in placing everything there instead of spreading my risk. My husband disagrees with me – he said I should spread the risk and explore other opportunities.

  689. Anthony said,

    October 13, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    Hey Carol
    I really do not know anything about same. However I would not like to think it is just because of the high interest y u r considering in putting a tidy sum in one org. When there r several other options that u could research thus being able to breathe. I guess I am sounding like your husband.
    peace

  690. Carol said,

    October 13, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    No Anthony its not because of the high interest rate only but I get a good vibe from it – as a number of persons are speaking of her vast experience in FX trading but in all of the positive responses about her – I was not able to garner any information on her longetivity. Trust me its not the interest yielded because I went in SC with very little because I was willing to lose it.

  691. Junior said,

    October 13, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    What do you guys know about Minvestment? In earlier comments mention was made of it. Based on calculations from their site investing a small amount will yield good returns within six months. If there is anyone out there who has any experience with them let me know.

  692. shonari said,

    October 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    http://cashplusinvestment.com gives some information as well on these investment clubs. links to their websites and other valuable information

  693. NM said,

    October 13, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Hey where is everyone

  694. Valerie said,

    October 14, 2007 at 12:20 am

    Must be out enjoying some of the sweet rewards…

  695. Steph said,

    October 14, 2007 at 12:32 am

    #649 Gail

    I also live in the US and had the same proplem. I called the contact person in Atlanta and was given the same answers you got. In fact, she told me that I lost money last month but gained in Oct. I withdrew my power of attorney and Gain Bank refunded my money. Overall, I came out a winner. In short, I don’t trust that NO NAME trader….I’m now in Higgins Warner and so far….so good…

  696. KIDCHILLIN said,

    October 14, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    Hello Steph, i am with Higgings Warner myself and i received my payment a few days before the actual date. Is there anyone out there that has been with Higgins Warner for at least six months, I would love to hear from you.

  697. Patricia said,

    October 14, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Hi Everyone,

    I know it’s Heroes W/End and folks are up and about…for those who have not read them, pls take a look at the Sunday Observer, Mark Wignall’s article on Cash Plus, some good info on joining and their requirements. Also look at an article in the Business section of the Sunday Observer “Affordable housing not out of reach”..that also gives some updates on Cash Plus’s R/Esate developments .

    If not satisfied, call them and ask plenty questions, but it seems like that they are certainly here to say…Good Luck

  698. AD' said,

    October 14, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    Hello Bloggers came accross this article.

    OLINT detractors continue to play dirty

    With its astonishing track record of performance, including paying back 70% of the funds held after the Financial Services Commission (FSC)-inspired, Gestapo-like raid on its offices, and earning continuously high yields on its currency trading portfolio, I would have thought that those detractors who have sought to discredit OLINT and its founder David Smith would have given up by now!

    Some months ago a letter writer calling himself ‘Ruute Ginpebn’ (unscramble the letters and you will see the name of a well-known merchant banker) began the crusade by attempting to crucify FX trading and OLINT.
    Based on three recent e-mails that are being circulated, one which originated in a well-known financial institution, it seems that it is a matter of them ‘not changing course’ and ‘going full speed ahead’ in trying to destabilise OLINT.

    It is my understanding that in addition to their traditional antagonists in our archaic banking sector OLINT now seems to have attracted the ire and ‘bad mind’ of some of the new players who have entered the field with all kind of wild promises of great returns.
    Sources suggest that the other emails badmouthing OLINT have come from one of these new people who have recently begun offering so-called guaranteed high rates.

    I am no financial guru nor am I an agent working on behalf of OLINT. What I see, however, is a host of fly-by-nighters claiming to be FX traders after crash-coursing on a DVD or two.
    Like the various schools of ‘continuing studies’ which have cropped over the last seven years, I would warn my readers (with money to invest) to approach with caution and steer clear of these ‘experts.

    To date it can be said that OLINT is tried and proven and has stood the test of time. In preparing this article it was requested of me that I inform my readers that OLINT is not associated with any other company.

    One would hope that with a new administration in place, good sense will now prevail so that the talent of a David Smith will be of greater value to the country and that the government will do everything to facilitate the return of OLINT’s operation to its Jamaican roots.

    - observemark@gmail.com

  699. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 15, 2007 at 3:09 am

    For more on David Smith and Olint Corp :

    Google David Smith Olint

  700. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 15, 2007 at 3:29 am

    Antony, I will respond to you shortly with a road map from your present situation to getting out of rent.
    I will have to make some assumtion due to the fact that I do not have a lot of personal info about you.
    Keep in mind that you have the world at your finger tips, for example you can learn how to build your own house from the ground up if you are willing to take the time to read and learn in your spare time. All that’s required is that you have the ability to read and for you modify your spare time more productively. Time is extremely important and it is mandatory not to waste it
    if you want to be sucessful.

  701. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 15, 2007 at 3:35 am

    For those who love to read and want to learn more about the history of David you may Google: Olint

  702. Pipslovah said,

    October 15, 2007 at 4:37 am

    Hi Chris, and all,

    Thanks for your words…I don’t want to be famous or anything but just glady to be with among other elites in the shadows than being a public target appearances in google or news press. We like our “privacy” at best, and the least attention we have in especially jamaica nowadays, the safer and the better. So sistren a mine taught me this when I was renovating my home…she said, mek outside look “normal” but i can fix up inside wid d most beautiful setups wid jacuuzi and d whole 9 yards…so when ppl just look at what i own on d outside, it may “appear” simple but yet inside is luxurious.

    So honestly Pound Kat, you can google, msn, wiki, yahoo the daylight out of the net, but you not gonna find most of the ppl coz we don’t wanna b apart of any attention that will mek us a prime target in harm’s way…I’m sure u all read and see even close family members fighting each other or killing their brother coz he won d lotto etc etc etc. Most of us knows what this world feeds upon these days, with greed comes envy and hatred comes disaster.

    Ok, Chris!!! Truth is, there are tons of good strategies and systems out there already bro..and what i do is try almost all of the good ones and remodify them to fit my own model and strategy instead of making one from scratch…like they always say, why reinvent the wheel? Just improve on it…^_^ so been trying all different kinds of stuff together to get the right mix for over a year..It eventually boils down to how well the strategy and money management technique used in it that will decide whether it gonna b a success or failure.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?eburxm0v9bi
    Bredah Chris, I uploaded my auto tradesystem result for one Month period of sept13-oct14 on the above website. Just click on the “Click here to start download” area ^_^. It is on the GBP/JPY pair alone tested on 6 different Live accounts. As u should know I’m trying to retire/phase myself out of the equation to trade manually anymore and just make the autotrade system run the show. The 1st account with 10k and 1st 1k are using the same money management logic with the least amount of drawdown possible from an Autotrade system..while the other 1k accounts are using a more riskier money management logic and settings, but they all survived the period with amazing results. I stop backtesting on demo accounts because of results in them do not agree with actual Live trading situations simply because I find that on demo accounts, it is pure ECN and no dealin desk, coz hey its fake money..while when u runnin it on Live Accounts, more time the broker will do a few tricks to mess with u as I still don’t see a true ECN so they’re all market makers to me. Hence why some traders develop a system and it work perfectly on demo but blow their account on Live trading. So don’t trust your demo testing 100% too much bro. Peace all.

  703. Anthony said,

    October 15, 2007 at 5:08 am

    Hey Pound and Pip
    Really great having u guys back.
    Pound I realize the way I write one may interpret that I am in such a dilemma, happy to say that God has blessed me ten folds,not withstanding I will indeed implore u to deal with my request as if the landlord was in fact at my door knocking and my children were cowering in fear. Show us the way my learned friend I am but a humble student.

  704. Anthony said,

    October 15, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Would also like to remind u that in JA spare time for security officers is generally spent doing say a double to help balance the books. If lucky may be posted where they can do a lot of reading though if not caught.

  705. Gail said,

    October 15, 2007 at 6:55 am

    AL thanks for the offer. What happened to LEWFAM stateside? What do I need to do?

  706. Gail said,

    October 15, 2007 at 7:02 am

    Ste[h, what is HIGGENS WARNER?

  707. JB said,

    October 15, 2007 at 8:40 am

    hi , can someone tell my if I can ivest in ww living in canada

  708. Marlene M said,

    October 15, 2007 at 11:10 am

    Greetings Pipslovah

    It good to hear from you! Your quote in #700: “So sistren a mine taught me this when I was renovating my home…she said, mek outside look “normal” but i can fix up inside wid d most beautiful setups wid jacuuzi and d whole 9 yards…so when ppl just look at what i own on d outside, it may “appear” simple but yet inside is luxurious”

    Much the same is stated in this Proverb.

    “True power comes through cooperating and silence. – Ashanti proverb.
    Have you ever heard the sun come out in the morning?
    Did you hear the moon come out last night?
    Can your demonstrate the sound made by the fussing of the sperm and egg to create the mircale of life?
    We have been taught in this society that power is loud, forceful, agressive and somewhat intimidating. It is not.
    In silence the Creator works.
    His creations all appear in silence.
    In silence one becomes attuned to the energies and forces that are unseen and unheard.
    In silence one learns to cooperate.
    We must cooperate with the flow of activity.
    In silence one learns to bring the head and the heart into cooperation in order to move with the strength and power of the forces in the flow.
    Keep silents about your hopes and dreams.
    Cooperate with yourself by doing only those things that will bring them about.
    Be silent about what you are doing and when you are doing it.
    Cooperate with those who will silently support you.
    In silence of the night, your dream will come true and when the chatterboxes come to look for you, you will be gone.
    Silence is my best friend. I cooperate fully in its presence.”

    Hey, just think about it for a second when the FSC came to look at OLINT, a private investmnet club. One must ask these questions:
    Is it that they were not silent?
    Were they too many chatterboxes?

    (“There are rules, if you claim to be investing these monies. The fsc, or the central bank for depositing institutions, have the legaal obligation to say, ‘tell me what you are doing? “Who are you seeking to attract?” You can’t just have people going around saying, I am forming a club, and the club is ever increasing. You are now publicly selling services,” Dr Davies said then.)
    -Jamaica Obseerver, March 1, 2007.

    Pound Kat this is not to say that we must not educate ourselves about any investments undertaken, or that we must be quiet and hide behind our doors.
    Each one of us must be responsible for protecting our investments and the interest of our fellow investors. Hence we all might have to be silent.

    Andre, many thanks for hosting this site.
    Bloggers thanks for keeping it alive, honest and real.
    To all the sisters who are investors, glad to hear from you.

    Regards!

  709. Marlene M said,

    October 15, 2007 at 11:30 am

    Greeting Pound Kat,

    Let take some of the pressure of OLINT, Cashplus, Minvestments, Lewfam, World Wise, Higgins Warner…….
    What if we learn some more about the “BIG GUYS” who for many year have taken our funds on deposit for whatever reasons and gave little in return?

    Rank Name % of Volume
    1

  710. rie said,

    October 15, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    anyone from miami area who has not received their money from Higgins Warner for August, let me know. I have not.

  711. Junior said,

    October 15, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    Marlene what do you know about Minvestment?

  712. Patricia said,

    October 15, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    JB,

    Yes you can, just remember that C’dian residents are taxed on their world wide income,so even if not earned in C’da technically you should report on tax form, under other income…if you do disclose, speak with Tax Accountant about whether it is investment income or interest income..diff in how taxed.

    Suggest you engage in tax planning to avoid or minimize any liability.

  713. Marlene M said,

    October 15, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    Hi Junior,

    After due diligence, I became a member. They have deliver to satisfaction and I’m moving to the next plan level offered. Very please.

  714. David said,

    October 15, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Pipslovah

    What technical indicators with time frame would you recommend. I am using MA, MAE, STOCHASTICS, RSI, MACD.My email d.henry677@sbcglobal.net. I am in Hartford and visit JA from time to time. Will be coming there in dec. Look forward for your response.

  715. Chris said,

    October 15, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    Hey David

    Pipslovah has already answered your questions in prior posts. Just take a “long” moment and read through he prior posts on this blog. I’m sure he doesn’t want to keep answering the same questions over and over again :)

    FOR ALL NEW COMERS : There is pretty good chance your question has already been addressed in prior posts…I personally took the time to read the entire blog before I started posting questions..Its just makes life easier on people like Pipslovah(and many others) who take the time to write detailed answers.

  716. David said,

    October 15, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    Pipslovah and Chris

    I did not word the question correct. I am referring to tech indicators and there time period eg MA-14, MAE 5 and 20 etc. My interest is in the time periods for the different indicators that you think make sense and not the time frame. I would like to see if I need to try other time period and indicators. Chris I already understand time frame 1, 2, 4, 8hrs and daily.

  717. Ms_InfinityQX56 said,

    October 15, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    I have been reading this blogg for the past two months and have been truly inspired by this great website – thanks to the webmaster, and the risk takers so much so that i hve decided to take a plunge with OLINT (through the backdoor of course) as well as Minvestment. I am conducting my due diligence with Minvestment. Can anyon advise which of the two accounts (e-gold or e-bullion) is better.

  718. Steph said,

    October 15, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    #708

    Rie, I live in fort Lauderdale and received my August Payment.

  719. NM said,

    October 15, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    #705 I think so, just go to their website and read.

  720. Patricia said,

    October 16, 2007 at 12:27 am

    Anthony or anyone else, none of my folks in Ja in cplus and I need a referral…filling out the form and name and address of ref is mandatory…I imagine to substantiate the no advertising/soliciting, word of mouth club etc etc…….

    If anyone can oblige I would appreciate it. Can be contacted at cameikle@rogers.com

  721. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 2:41 am

    Patricia,

    Keep me posted on this blog how the Cash Plus application etc works out….I am interested in customer service how long it takes, etc. I am thinking of joining them as well. I am also in Canada so I am curious to know how easy it is for you.

    Also you seem to know a little about the taxes, have you thought about treating the income as income from a business having a registered company ? Just a thought

  722. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 2:44 am

    For people interested in High Yield Investment Programs such as Minvestment check out (www.hyip.com)…they are all there. I am not invested in any of them but I might be in the future. They are VERY risky but the returns are VERY good.

  723. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 2:51 am

    For those in Minvestment and the like , how do you fund an e-bullion account ? Do you also have to go through another broker similar to what e-gold requires ?

  724. Zunammie said,

    October 16, 2007 at 3:31 am

    Hi Pipslovah,

    Happy to see that you are back. Did ur friend decide to go into business using ur robot trade system? If so I would love some info pls. zunammi@hotmail.com

    I love reading this “blog”. I feel like I know some of you guys. lol.

    ***JOY***LOVE***PROSPERITY***

  725. Junior said,

    October 16, 2007 at 3:39 am

    E-bullion is better with Minvestment. Their system is directly tied in with your e-bullion account. There is no need to go through another vendor like e gold. Once you create your account you will get the wiring details so you can fund it.

  726. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 16, 2007 at 3:53 am

    #715
    Ms_InfinityQX56, right now based on my research e-bullion is the better of the two…

  727. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 4:09 am

    PoorRiskTeka, based on my research I would agree. Too many steps to fund e-gold account plus I see some news about e-gold that I did not like. The fees for these guys are heavy though….3% on withdrawals ….man….I really need to learn how to trade forex for myself and avoid all these guys all together and make even more $$$

  728. Marlene M said,

    October 16, 2007 at 6:40 am

    Hey Junior!
    It’s apparent that you already know much about Minvestment………LOL….!

    Yes, e-bullion verses e-gold is better to use. Their system is user friendly, and they are customer service oriented.

    HD, I agree 3% on withdrawals is a little steep…… But you know, the flip side is out of our control; someone must get paid for service.
    (still 3% maybe too much).

    All the best to your prosperity!

  729. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 16, 2007 at 10:51 am

    To all members and readers and snoopers, wishing you all a profitable and productive quarter.

    Gail, I think you are to much in a hurry to invest, slow down a little, You almost had a serious casualty, things could have been much worst, the good lord was looking out for you.
    h
    Here are some info you can read and research for yourself and may be in a better position to make a more informed investing decision.
    Google The Money Paper click on Drips

    Google Big Dividend Paying Stocks
    You may also google Dollar Cost Averaging
    Remember it’s your money which is hard to have saved, the more knowledge you have the more your money will work for you.
    Pipslo, calm down,stay focus do not let any one derail you and break your concentration watch those hammer heads. Link Up wishing you profitable trades, keep an eye on that green back the big banks are outsmarting themselves with those mortgages.
    They try to rip off the poor and see it’s back firing. This is why it’s always best to play a fair game.

    Stay tuned.

  730. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 11:25 am

    FYI…for those of you doing research as well, what I did with e-bullion to find out how it works was to create a fake account and then log in with it to see how the account can be managed and get all the information that I want. I do this all the time since a lot of sites don’t give a lot of relevant information before you sign up.

  731. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 11:40 am

    Pound, I like your last post, I agree with your assessment and the help you are offering is good. Gail don’t be in a hurry. It took me at least two months before signing up for some programs after first learning about them. Not to mention how long since I have heard about Olint. I could not understand how Olint works or was even feasible until I attended a free webinar on forex trading and learned how the forex market works.

    To all risk takers :

    Its good not to fear losing money if you want to be rich . But don’t get careless, no want wants to lose money.

    Rich Dad Poor Dad – Robert Kiyosaki – Chapter 8 overcome the fear of losing money; Chapter 9 #10 “teach and you will receive”.

  732. FXNoob said,

    October 16, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    pipslovah,

    Looking forward to seeing the results for another period 656%, my
    Graduated from babypips but I’m still quite the Noob. Going to reread to cement the concepts.

  733. Kevin said,

    October 16, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Could someone please provide info on Maydaisy. I went on the site but since I am not a member, I cannot log in. I heard that they pay 25% per month.

  734. HD said,

    October 16, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Hey FXNoob,

    I am studying at babypips as well. Got discouraged last week when I lost all my earnings in one trade on my demo account that I have been practicing with…maybe too aggressive maybe overly anxious ?.

    Are you saying that you learned everything from Baby Pips and you are now able to make that much return in one period ? Please confirm…I am only in 5th grade does it get really good after this grade ?

  735. Junior said,

    October 16, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    Marlene how did you go about making your investment? Did you try out their progressive compounding program?

    I would like some tips, thanks much.

  736. JH said,

    October 16, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    I have $500 US to invest, can anyone help me out in joining one of the investment clubs? I am trying to start small don’t want to invest too much right now. I have check NCB Mutual Funds but not too sure about them.

  737. Lone Wulf said,

    October 16, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Can someone plz invite me into May Daisy? My address is (wulf.lone@gmail.com)

  738. Ms_InfinityQX56 said,

    October 16, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    For those who have been burned by swiscash see link below
    http://ecommerce-journal.com/topic/swisscash_relaunching_its_phase_i_not_run_away

  739. Zunammie said,

    October 16, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    JH email me for more info
    zsinvestments@gmail.com

  740. Carla said,

    October 16, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    I need a referral for Maydaisy. Please e-mail me at carleen2b@gmail.com.
    Any contact would be appreciated.

    Thanks

  741. Marlene M said,

    October 17, 2007 at 7:02 am

    Junior, regarding the company in question………

    My decisions were based on completing due diligence before committing to an investment plan.
    Due diligence period included prior knowledge and experience with investments, but was not limited to receiving information from the media, internet surfing, and contacting the company directly or calling the registrar’s office.

    When I was satisfied with the results I move ahead to sign-up with the company and funded my account.

    Yes, I have tried and tested the progressive compounding program with several accounts set for 30-45-150 day’s duration.

    Like a clock works, every morning between 9:15am – 9:30am interest and number of days elapsed are posted to the account.

    Transferring funds to/from e-bullion accounts for withdrawal is time consuming when you have forgotten your password and must wait
    15-30 minutes before you can access it again.

    No tips are provided. This web based program/software is very user friendly and easily understood. Just read nuh……..smile! follow the instructions, and call customer service for help if you encounter a problem.

    Much success to you.

    Please check out this website link:
    http://ecommerce-journal.com/interviews/interview_with_walder_ruth_minvestment_com

  742. Kevin said,

    October 17, 2007 at 9:43 am

    Minvestment claim to have been around since 2000. I have not seen any reviews online where anyone has received their huge profits after the 150 business days. In seven years…
    anyway i still jumped in. 144 long business days to go.

  743. Patricia said,

    October 17, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    HD,

    Well 2 things via this forum I got a referral, which was great…thanks again to the brethen from Mona, and secondly..we sent C+ an email and they responded telling what to do, email sent last thursday and they respponded yesterday Morn, not bad since it was aholiday w/end.

    Am now putting he stuff together, by the way if you doing it from C’da they will Fed Ex the contract to you, you can also wire the funds to C+….

    But I’ll be going to Ja to get things done, so I quess I’ll join the line.

    Cheers

  744. Patricia said,

    October 17, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Today/T’row, I will try again to open an e-bullion account, followed the steps but kept getting error message, sent customer service an email yesterday, but no response..hhhhmmm

    Next thing…yes the tax issue needs to be examined…especially in light of C+ announcements that it is preparing audited accounts and will be applying for registration w/FSC….ultimately then info will be given to the Financial Investigations Unit of Ministry of Finance..and Tax Dept…lenders will have to pay tax on the interest income they earn from their “loans” to C+

    Whether you lend in your name or in a company name, there will still be a tax hit, would/should be less for a company.

    I hope OLINT stays in Turks, because that’s offshore..good for all of us J’can/Jamericans/C’dians……if in Olint..off shore bank account advisable.

    Nuff said…. back to the plantation…leverage and compounding deliver me!!!

  745. Michael said,

    October 17, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    #740 Kevine I can’t access minvestment site even with the code. Is a referal needed or something.
    Thanks for your help.

  746. Terrence said,

    October 17, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    so are u guys saying that minvestment.com is a realiable company

    how many have used it and can protest to its character
    and is there anyone that can speak against it

    i want to invest in it but doing some research first

  747. Terrence said,

    October 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    i think minvestment should have its own forum though as this section is saturated

  748. Terrence said,

    October 17, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    kevin how is it going are they paying minvestment that is

  749. FXNoob said,

    October 17, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    HD,
    I was referring to pipslovah’s returns from his Automated Trade system in #700. I haven’t lost all my returns but I have been consistently losing from my first few trades :-) . Was just testing the waters though, will try to apply the rules going forward.

  750. Zunammie said,

    October 17, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    I would like some info on Maydaisy, can someone email me please? Also would love to hear from independent traders :)
    zsinvestments@gmail.com
    Thanks!

  751. Anthony said,

    October 17, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    Hi u all
    Just a few questions I would like u all views on?
    How do u think the government will deal with taxes re members of these houses in particular cash plus?
    Patricia in regards to #742 do u think that it would be re tractive plus interest or penalty for members who were collecting before and did not file tax returns or would they (government) start new?
    Will the tax issues be different with other houses who claim to trade fx & earn offshore?
    How will the lender who has been spending all earned, fare out if the government puts down their foot like say the IRS?

    It would appear to me it gets easier by the day to collect the nuts, the big problem now is keeping them.
    I now consider the poor man very fortunate because as long as he can find his nights dinner all his trouble is over until the next day, our troubles gives us sleepless night, WHAT U ALL THINK?
    It shall be easier for the poor man to enter the Kingdom of God than the rich man.
    Andre your response would be appreciated.

  752. Anthony said,

    October 17, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    I continue to learn from u all by being a keen listener.

  753. Patricia said,

    October 17, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    Anthony,
    Technically, once you earn income, that is not exempt for Income tax purposes, you incur a tax liability, and at the relevant tax time ought to declare it….I really hope the Govt does not go the retro route (yes interest and penalties…look at Beenie, for eg., now b4 Ct with $30M tax claim), not sure that’s feasible, given the amount of work that would be involved…but rest assured, given the national debt and Min. of Finance’s declaration that they will be aggresively collecting revenues, I can’t see them overlooking C+ and other club earnings in Ja.

    The off-shore one’s a little trickier….you still incurr a liability as you ought to self disclose, but Olint, for eg. would currently be under no authority to disclose any info to tax authoritiesin JA(or C’da) for that matter. But the ? is where do you put your earnings. I think off-shore is the best bet, coupled with the use of an International Credit card from an off shore-bank(yes I’ve been giving his serious thought)…Also incorporating a holding company for the purposes of these investment earnings creates another layer between you(the individual) and the tax man…….

    In the interim just keep on and maintain a low profile.

    On that note ….

    Cheers

  754. Patricia said,

    October 17, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    Definitely for those of us in the States and C’da, forex gains are taxable..in Canada, you are taxed on 50% of the gain at approx 23-25%,( will double check the rate), and yes you could trade in a company name and the overall tax rate would be less.

    The explosive growth in returns is essentially why most traders keep under cover and dont go bragging about their success. They also maintain off-shore accounts and many also re-locate to countries like Panama, BVI, Turks and the Bahamas.

  755. HD said,

    October 17, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Patricia, any luck with e-bullion ?, I was able to create a fake account few night back as a test.

  756. mathetes said,

    October 18, 2007 at 1:10 am

    Greetings Friends

    I just got the chance to post the first forex blog. The Page is called everything forex and it is here http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/everything-forex/ .

    NOTE, I WANT TO USE A DIFFERENT THEME FROM THIS PRESENT BLOG FOR THE FOREX PAGE SO I MAY CHANGE THE LOCATION. If I decide to change the location I will do it tomorrow and a link will be on this site directing you to the forex page (EVERYTHING FOREX).
    Andre

  757. NM said,

    October 18, 2007 at 2:44 am

    Hi everyone

  758. Kevin said,

    October 18, 2007 at 10:29 am

    #743 It works fine for me. On rare occasions the site takes a while to load. You can sign up without a referral.

    #746 Going well I guess. I get my interest payment at about 9am every business day. My account is however set to progressive compounding for the 150 business days so I am not able to withdraw anything until the days have elapsed.
    Thinking about opening a second account and take simple interest. Just to see if they do pay. Hmmm…Why didn’t I do that first?

  759. Kurt said,

    October 18, 2007 at 10:40 am

    Could someone please send me some info about Maydaisy. I also need a referral. kvclarke@yahoo.com . Thanks!

  760. Patricia said,

    October 18, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    HD, re e-bullion..never got a response to the e-mail I sent….so I dont like that!!…a colleague is in minvestment..but I want to see if it really consistently works first…If it does I’ll have them walk me through it, I’m in no rush.

    Cheers

  761. Terrence said,

    October 18, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    i have a e-bullion account for around 6 months know and it works for me

  762. Terrence said,

    October 18, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    but yes patricia being patient is best but dont wait too long good deals dont last forever

    zeen

  763. TheOne said,

    October 18, 2007 at 6:54 pm

    Hi, guys
    Been spending most of my afternoon researching Forex trading and HYIPs. I would like to join OLINT. Can anyone help? would appreciate it. My email add: quietexcellence@cwjamaica.com

  764. lover said,

    October 18, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    I would like to join OLINT. Can anyone help? would appreciate it. My email
    http://www.unitedwereach@yahoo.com

  765. Roxy said,

    October 18, 2007 at 8:18 pm

    i’m interested in Maydaisy Corporation, please send me information on this company. thank you.

  766. Pipslovah said,

    October 18, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Yo ladies and gents,

    Since Andre created d fx page, i’ll just post all the stuff there since both me and Chris were classified as “rats” in this blog before.:) I’m Gathering resources, links etc for newbies. Hoping to post it before midnight or latest tomorow as I’ve been very busy lately.

    Yo Chris and other pro traders, had fun with betonmarkets.com today. Made 7.5Kusd in less than half hr betting on GJ pair.. u guys should try it out, (only for pro or elite traders tho!!) they hav virtual demo accounts for u to try them out. ^_^ Peace!

  767. Ms_InfinityQX56 said,

    October 18, 2007 at 11:54 pm

    #743 Michael – here is a reference link for minvestment.com http://www.minvestment.com/?r=gia611

  768. Vangeller said,

    October 19, 2007 at 12:18 am

    Hi everyone,
    What are your thoughts on F1 investment? It is rumoured that this is Mr. Smith’s creation! As before mentioned, OLINT is no longer taking on new members. Therefore, this is the site now which needs no referral…for now! The platinum section is closed for US residents, but the “gold section” is open for new accounts????. Or this is closed also for the US residents?????????

    Some of the original OLINT existing members now are charging up to 1.3%to get people through the back door. So, I am hoping that F1 is really true. I have a good feeling about this…Please for your feed back.

    Regards.

  769. Gail said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:02 am

    Thanks to all for your adice. Now, I would like for someone to explain HIGGINS/Warner investment opportunities. Also, I want to join OLINT, but I understand it is still closed. Is this true? If not, will someone refer me? I am very determined to get my plan in place to becoming financially independent.

  770. Chris said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:14 am

    Mr. Pipslovah!!
    I see you are back for more abuse huh..what a guy! :) LOL…I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on the new forex blog…so now people who dont care to hear/learn about pips, currency pairs, and moving averages, won’t be forced to listen… and we’ll have our very own blog to “infest” :)

    betonmarkets seems quite interesting and I’m going to take a deeper look when I get a chance…you definitely need to really know what you are doing though…then again, that goes for forex in general..Take care folks!

  771. Steph said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:33 am

    #767

    Gail send me your email address and I will give you all the info you require to become a member of Higgins Warner. I also have a direct contact here in Fort Lauderdale. In fact, he is the assistant vice president.

  772. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:40 am

    I will be joining you “rats” :-) on the other blog cuz I want to learn more about the pips and stop giving other people my money.

  773. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:48 am

    Vangeller,

    I have gotten some good vibes about f1investments. I am waiting to get back some money from another program to put in the platinum. The platinum is averaging approx 15% pr month. I dont know for sure but I have heard or read somewhere that David Smith is a partial owner. I have spoken to people close to them but not part of them and the vibes that I get is really good. Also if you send them an email you get a response really fast which is a good sign to me considering how difficult it is to get others (WW) on the phone or an email response from others.

  774. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:09 am

    Patricia,

    I am considering putting some money in mininvestment in the near future so I was very interested in your experience with e-bullion. I sent them an email (CustomerService@e-Bullion.com) this morning and I got a response back today (sameday) . Maybe they were having technical problems when you were trying , so try again and let us know what happens.

  775. Chris said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:13 am

    f1investments is legit but they dont deal with people living in the US.

  776. damian said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:41 am

    I spoke to a rep last week from F1 and they indicated no such thing about not accepting US clients. I could be wrong though if it was changed recently, but I will be calling them tommorrow. They actually have a Miami area code 305, which is routed to their customer service in JA. An interested thing to note is that I was quoted the same returns for the last 8 months as LEWFAM. Do the research and you’ll find out, then draw your own conclusions.

  777. damian said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:42 am

    BTW has anyone have any problems with Higgins Warner in regards to their returns?

  778. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:32 am

    Some interesting encyclopedic info on e-gold and e-bullion on Wikepedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Bullion
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold

  779. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:40 am

    what is interesting about e-bullion is that they offer a debit card.

  780. Gail said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Thanks steph what is your email?

  781. Vangeller said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:48 am

    HD

    Thanks for your reply. I too will be getting back enough returns in the next 3 weeks to go in the platinum of F1 investment.

    Rather interesting with the LeFam comparison. I also like the fact that the entry fee for the gold is only US$300. This is an affordable risk for most.

    Regards

  782. Gail said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:56 am

    Steph if you would, send the infomration to this email: michaelmcbride34@gmail.com

    Thanks for the informaiton

  783. Gail said,

    October 19, 2007 at 9:08 am

    What is f1investments? Can someone provide information on this investment as well?
    Can investors that live in the US invest also.

    michaelmcbride34@gmail.com

  784. Chris said,

    October 19, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    http://f1investments.com/

    Maybe I misunderstand what they said but I doubt it..Here is a cut N paste from an email they sent me on Sept 21 2007:

    Dear Mr. X,

    Please be advised that we are not accepting new applications from residents of the United States. F1 Investments, Inc is also not accepting deposits from residents in the United States.

    Best regards,

    F1 Customer Care Department

  785. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    I was told the same….they do not accept applications or deposits from US residents. However they do accept from every other country in the world including Canada.

  786. Patricia said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    Everyday there is something new…..first HD, not going with Minvestment..just a personal choice. Secondly, visited F1 investments site and read it through…noticed that theyb have a lot of info EXCEPT, who they really are…hhhhmmm..gets me wondering, and leaves people to guess and then the rumor mill grinds.

    Enquiring minds want toknow so I called, spoke to a rep who regurgitated the info on the site, I indicated that the Corporate identity was not enough for me, asked who are the principals..she said they cant disclose that at this time. I DONT LIKE THAT!, others may say so what. For me it does, as a good site, and licensing and registration still doesn’t tell me who’s involved. The integrity of the people and their experience is paramount. There are traders and then are traders. So now, can anyone say who they really are ?????

  787. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    Hey guys, posted stuff on the fx blog of andre..so u can see the resources etc there HD and others..PEACE :)

  788. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/everything-forex/

  789. Patricia said,

    October 19, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    Damian, do you think its just another arm of LewFam?

  790. Delta said,

    October 19, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    Hey guys!

    I just want to congratulate Andre on establishing this blog site.

    I would like to get some info about Higgins Warner. Steph I would appreciate hearing from you. My email address is diamarjm@yahoo.com. Thx

  791. john said,

    October 19, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    Has anyone in this room been with higgins warner long enough to receive their principal back? If so can you state so please and put some the saysayers on the blog to rest.

  792. Terrence said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    patricia

    how long you been with minvestment
    and is it great so far

  793. Basil said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Hi Guys.
    Can anyone give me a referal to F1 Investments Inc.
    Thanks in advance. my email address is oneillbaspol@bellsouth.net

    Also I nead a street address for MayDaisey the bank will not
    send a wire with only the information furnished on the website.
    anyone else with this problem?

  794. Yvette said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Love & respect u guys for all the eye openers…….but when all is said and done @ the end of day only a few lucky people will benefit from these schemes….the majority of us will hang on expecting more interest on our monies while the few luckies will withdraw to fulfill needs.

    Dont you see something’s wrong when most of these peeps only choose to operate out of a little corner shop….what do you beleive the intentions are……exactly….to lock shop and leave town when the basket is full…..they dont want no baggage…..I’m a member of @ least three of them but I made sure that my future is not based on their existence…..BE YE CAREFUL!!!!

    I’VE RECEIVED SOME INTERESTING INFO FROM WEALTHBUILDERS ASSOC RECENTLY….IT SOUNDS GOOD….THEY HAVE AN OPTION WHERE YOU CAN GET OLINT’S RATE PER MONTH WITH A .75% DEDUCTED SERVICE CHARGE PLUS OTHER BETTER ONE………

  795. Yvette said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    THEY ARE AT THE TOP OF MAXFIELD AVENUE…………IN THE COMPLEX WHERE SUNSHINE AUTO IS

  796. Carla said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Basil

    #789

    Can you refer me to maydaisy? carleen2b@gmail.com

  797. Andre said,

    October 19, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    There is another nice blog on Jamaican investment opportunities at: http://cashplusinvestment.com/

  798. Sunflower said,

    October 19, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    # 789

    Just spoke to rep at F1 Investment and was told that referal is not required.
    was advised to complete New Account Application and submit. Just confirmed they are not taking any US residents also.

  799. Terrence said,

    October 19, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    how much fee do u pay wen funding your ebullion account through wire transfer

  800. Terrence said,

    October 19, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    i was just checking out minvestment and i used there calculator to see how much i would get from 100 initial deposit from a 150dy progressive compounding interest and it stated i would get and end of 150days 11605.09

    has anyone who has been in it see there money progressing to this amount and think it is possible to reach that amount

  801. Jane Brown said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    787
    John,

    How long have you been with Higgins Warner?

  802. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    Yo Chris!! :)

    Check out my P&L for the last 2 days on betonmarkets.com :)
    http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=55mdym3givm&thumb=4

    Spent only half hour each day on it earning consistent 7.5Kusd. :)
    Use your momentum trading skills on it bro…made a booboo on that losing bet shown on the image by not waiting on my chart signals. But its all good in tha end..made up dat loss to end up in same profit for the day. Peace!

  803. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    Pipslovah,

    I think you may have forgotten to hit submit on the other post. You made reference to some links but they are not there.

  804. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Terrence,

    didn’t you say in an earlier post that you were in minvestment and have an ebullion account already ?

    #
    Terrence said,

    October 18, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    i have a e-bullion account for around 6 months know and it works for me

    #
    Terrence said,

    October 19, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    how much fee do u pay wen funding your ebullion account through wire transfer

  805. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    Oh another thing Chris!

    Betonmarkets.com has your stocks indices there for u too! So double the fun for u huh! :)
    For all those who doubted about this whole fx bullshit before, ;) I guess the above post#798 with my real Live winnings on betonmarkets.com just showed a fraction how much I can mek even in half an hour a day. Peace!

  806. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    Hey HD,

    I’m not sure wha happen? I am seeing the posts fine…or did i get a wrong blog to post in?
    i see it in
    http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/everything-forex/
    let me know if u still dont see it..

  807. Terrence said,

    October 19, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    sorry i am in ebullion not in minvestment
    use ebullion to fund other investments
    what i meant to ask in the last question was how much to fund a minvesment account or is it free

    sorry for the mistake

  808. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    yow! this everything forex Blog is WEIRD!! one minute i see my post nex i dont! after refreshing the page several times i see d post again!
    Anyway i posted the image of the post here
    http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=endbhyta1j9&thumb=6

  809. Chris said,

    October 19, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    Hey Pips!

    Very impressive performance you got going on Betonmarkets.com..yet another way to make some quick profits, or lose the shirt on your back in the the forex market :) Also, I dont see the informational post you are talking about anywhere in the forex blog…You need to wait at least until the sun goes down to start the drinkin :) lol..anyway try to repost if possible..thanks!

    Hey Basil,

    Address:
    Unit #12, Caribbean Place
    Providenciales
    Turks & Caicos Islands
    British West Indies
    (649)941-4994

  810. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    Yo chris and HD,
    U see d post on this page post#804???

    “yow! this everything forex Blog is WEIRD!! one minute i see my post nex i dont! after refreshing the page several times i see d post again!
    Anyway i posted the image of the post here
    http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=endbhyta1j9&thumb=6
    ”
    ????? Something’s weird…for those who can see the image file, it clearly that i posted it but it jus vanish from d blog…

  811. Patricia said,

    October 19, 2007 at 7:46 pm

    There’s been a lot sharing going on up in here!! Many Thanks…..This Blog really works!!!…Some folks not reading the posts though and asking for info already posted…Again for those who have personally given me info Nuff Respect!! Have a good weekend everyone.

  812. AD' said,

    October 19, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Hello Guys can someone give me a referral to maydaisy and whats the monthly payout.?

    Thanks in advance.

  813. mathetes said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    hey Guys,

    Happy to know that you guys are here. I didnt delete the comments, there may be a problem with this page, I dont know. Here is the link to the new page http://everythingforex.wordpress.com/.

    Please tell me if you would rather use that blog (the new one which is entirely for Forex) or use this page. The plus with using this page is that you can easily comment in the comments section under other topics. The plus with the new blog is that most of the trafic/comments there will be Forex oriented.

    If you rather here then I will delete the new blog page and put all new stuff on this one.

    Peace
    Andre

  814. HD said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    no problems pips…I will keep looking for it in case it re-appears or if you try to re-post….the market is closed for the weekend so you probably have a lot of time and partying it up already

  815. Pipslovah said,

    October 19, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    HD,
    Plz click on dis link for an image of d post
    http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=endbhyta1j9&thumb=6

    peace

  816. Nes said,

    October 20, 2007 at 2:39 am

    Hello everyone,
    Chris or Basil can you please please send me a referal for Maydaisy.

    shishi_jamaicanbrat@yahoo.com

    Thanks

  817. Gail said,

    October 20, 2007 at 3:17 am

    DRE, keep this page too

  818. Mr. Skeptic said,

    October 20, 2007 at 4:48 am

    Hey AI bloggers greetingz, does any current member of olint have a number for their jamaican office or even their Turks office? I have figured out a way to open the floodgates for us all. plz send info asap.

  819. AD' said,

    October 20, 2007 at 5:42 am

    Whats flood gates are you speaking off #814.

  820. Phillip said,

    October 20, 2007 at 7:33 am

    Hi all,
    I actually know many people who are getting their own account with OLINT through backdoor connections. In the past few months over a dozen of my friends and even some family have attained these accounts, so it is possible to get one, you just have to know the right people I guess. Hopefully I will get to open an account when I get back to Jamaica in December.

  821. Vangeller said,

    October 20, 2007 at 10:31 am

    Hi Everyone,

    Any information on Universal Wealth & investment Network Inc.?

  822. Gail said,

    October 20, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    Phillip

    Is this the backdoor?

    http://www.techinnah.com

  823. Pipslovah said,

    October 20, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Yo Andre,

    Let me know where is it that we’re gonna be posting the fx stuff coz I don’t want to repeat myself on all of them. Getting a bit confusing as to which blog to post on :)

    Peace

  824. Undermanners said,

    October 20, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Hello Everyone,

    #816 – Phillip Can you emal a referreal for above referenced site for new membership??

  825. Kurt said,

    October 20, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    Need info about Maydaisy. Someone please refer me. kvclarke@yahoo.com

  826. Kelly said,

    October 20, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    Could someone please send some about Maydaisy and refer me. y2kell@yahoo.com

    Thanks much

  827. Investment Tech said,

    October 20, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    hey investors, me and a few peeps from wrk are in minvestment now for 4 weeks, every day we try to find dirt on minvestment, we finally did find something. The management company that runs Minvestment (DHI) was previously involved with tingerinvest which is now not active. futher research as also showed that the address given in the BVI is the same for several other companies. A phone call to one of the companies revealed that not even the operator was too sure who DHI was but she eventually said ‘oh thats us’. still researching new info will be published

  828. Kelly said,

    October 20, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    Phillip

    Could you please provide a referal or have someone refer me to get into Olint by the method that you mentioned. I have been trying to get in for awhile now. y2kell@yahoo.com

    Thanks much

  829. Mellonie said,

    October 20, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    #823: Please keep us abreast of your finding on Minvestment.
    I have done some researching myself and would like to learn more about the company.

    Thanks.

  830. Joe Joe said,

    October 21, 2007 at 2:17 am

    Hi

    Nice to see that there is a place that I come and source information on investing. It is often hard for one person to sniff out a company that is here to rob and steel from someone who is trying to become financially secure; but I do think that collectively as a group we can guide each other down the correct path. I am aware that no investment is full proof, so let us all keep talking about the good and the bad.

    Joe Joe

  831. Sue said,

    October 21, 2007 at 3:02 am

    Could someone plz refer me to May Daisy?

    cutecat_rm@hotmail.com

    Thanks

  832. DR said,

    October 21, 2007 at 3:19 am

    In the middle of CVM newcast on Friday night October 19, Mr Michael Lee-Chin said that he is NOT a part of Worldwise…..I am a little scared now…because most of us placed our money in WW thinking that it was safe because of him and Neville Blyte…..hmmmm Where do we go next? I just came out of Cplus…don’t like the fact that they are buying up some many properties

  833. Vangeller said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:19 am

    Re: # 816 & #818

    Thanks guys, may be this is the closest door possible to the front door!!!!!!!!!!!

  834. Vangeller said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:42 am

    Premier account US$2,000- US$20,000 = 12 – 14% monthly (0.75% monthly manager’s fee)

    Gold account US$20,001 – US $ 499,999 = 15 – 18% monthly ( 0.375% monthly manager’s fee)

    Platinum account US$500,000+ = 19 – 22 % (no fee !)

    Very close to front door…As for as I am concern this is my front door.

    Warm regards

  835. FXNoob said,

    October 21, 2007 at 7:40 am

    Since I started reading on Forex trading all my peers are saying that they think I’d do well because I’ve got the brains for it. From what I’ve seen though it’s a lot more than being smart. The consistency that elite/pro traders show implies that if the rules are properly applied then one can definitely succeed without “gambling”. Once one learns to control greed, emotions, baby mothers etc., one should be able to do well with a little sticktoitiveness. Looking forward to learning from the pros…….maybe in a couple years I’ll be ……..FXtremelyRich…or not…:-)

  836. TheOne said,

    October 21, 2007 at 11:08 am

    Does anyone knows what are the returns like at F1investments inc.?

  837. Joe Joe said,

    October 21, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    Vangeller

    #830

    Can I get some information on that account.

    Techlinks1@gmail.com

  838. Vangeller said,

    October 21, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Re # 830

    Information in #830 is from the “Wealth Builder’s Club”. Look in # 790 + #791 for info on this club.

    http://www.techinnah.com/ sounds similar to same in their “About us” preamble. However, need to research if the mentioned website is link to Wealth Builder’s since wealth builder as a domain name is taken.

  839. Steve Mullings said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    just read your article and have some money to invest and hoping it is not too late.
    Thanks
    Steve mullings

  840. Steve Mullings said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    Hey Phillip – 816
    Contact me at my e-mail address
    I an in Florida and will be going to Jamaica in December for the same reason.

    Steve

  841. Steve Mullings said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    Hey Phillip

    my address is deluxmattress@bellsouth.net

  842. Mellonie said,

    October 21, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    Everyone please wait a minute!
    Before getting too excited about http://www.techninah.com/
    How much research was done before spreading a word? Yes, OLINT was mentioned; mmm..a third party to get in the back door; may be! what else do we know about them?
    Who is willing to undertake an assignment to obtain the facts and share their result? I hear a lot of chattering, blogers.

    Yes, most of us are interested to invest in a club, in financial freedom etc……
    But bear in mind that “haste makes waste” and it sounds like some blogers are just followers:
    I’ll join ABC Club when you join it.
    What is your responsibility to know for yourselves?
    All I’m saying, proper research your information, present the fact for reviews, and if someone is interested they should follow up to confirm and advance to the next step. Yes, I know this may sound like a lecture, please also check out the article listed below by Mark Wignall.

    “To date it can be said that OLINT is tried and proven and has stood the test of time. In preparing this article it was requested of me that I inform my readers that OLINT is not associated with any other company”.

    Wignall’s World
    Mark Wignall
    Sunday, October 14, 2007

    OLINT detractors continue to play dirty

    With its astonishing track record of performance, including paying back 70% of the funds held after the Financial Services Commission (FSC)-inspired, Gestapo-like raid on its offices, and earning continuously high yields on its currency trading portfolio, I would have thought that those detractors who have sought to discredit OLINT and its founder David Smith would have given up by now!
    Some months ago a letter writer calling himself ‘Ruute Ginpebn’ (unscramble the letters and you will see the name of a well-known merchant banker) began the crusade by attempting to crucify FX trading and OLINT.
    Based on three recent e-mails that are being circulated, one which originated in a well-known financial institution, it seems that it is a matter of them ‘not changing course’ and ‘going full speed ahead’ in trying to destabilise OLINT.
    It is my understanding that in addition to their traditional antagonists in our archaic banking sector OLINT now seems to have attracted the ire and ‘bad mind’ of some of the new players who have entered the field with all kind of wild promises of great returns.
    Sources suggest that the other emails badmouthing OLINT have come from one of these new people who have recently begun offering so-called guaranteed high rates.
    I am no financial guru nor am I an agent working on behalf of OLINT. What I see, however, is a host of fly-by-nighters claiming to be FX traders after crash-coursing on a DVD or two.
    Like the various schools of ‘continuing studies’ which have cropped over the last seven years, I would warn my readers (with money to invest) to approach with caution and steer clear of these ‘experts.
    To date it can be said that OLINT is tried and proven and has stood the test of time. In preparing this article it was requested of me that I inform my readers that OLINT is not associated with any other company.
    One would hope that with a new administration in place, good sense will now prevail so that the talent of a David Smith will be of greater value to the country and that the government will do everything to facilitate the return of OLINT’s operation to its Jamaican roots.
    - observemark@gmail.com

    Much success and prosperity investors

  843. Willy said,

    October 21, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    I have recently invested with Worldwisepartners, This I did online and saw my account updated. Only time will tell if I have made a mistake. I acknowledge that these investments are HIGH RISK, therefore I will not end up in Bellevue or Ward 21 at the University Hospital if the money went down the proverbial drain.

  844. Basil said,

    October 21, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    Thank you,#s 792 & 794.Just for the record I also received the
    the info. from MDY from a fax I sent. Ok Carla #792 as soon as
    my account is funded,that is if you are not in by then.

    My thoughts on worldwisepartners to whoever is intrested is;
    We can see them, touch them,. smell them punch them, or kill them.
    With many of the others we can only mashup our computers if we get duped.

  845. HD said,

    October 21, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    Some of you guys are really funny/crazy/strange/etc.

    Anyways, I guess its its all a matter of risk tolerance and risk management. Safe to say that I have money in two programs but I would never put money in any thinking that they will always be around or that they are 100% solid. They are all risky and they may go away one day, even tomorrow, whether it’s because of criminality, poor market conditions, governments, FBI/CIA/IRS/CRA, poor management, natural disaster, computer crash, etc.

    Have fun guys.

  846. Phillip said,

    October 21, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    #838 Mellonie, I agree with you 100% about http://www.techninah.com. This site was not what I was talking about in my earlier post. I have no information on techininah, nor am I endorsing them in any way. Putting your money with them is just like giving your money to a stranger to invest in OLINT, which they could just take and run away with.
    When I get information on opening an ACTUAL OLINT ACCOUNT through one of their agents, I will inform you all.

  847. Joe Joe said,

    October 21, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    Phillip

    That is good feedback, lets try to put out information that is or can be proven. I would like to see us all benefit from quality information. If anyone has information that is proven, feel free to share the wealth.

    Techlinks1@gmail.com

  848. Patricia said,

    October 22, 2007 at 1:10 am

    Wignall’s World
    Mark Wignall
    Sunday, October 21, 2007

    This was extracted from Mark’s Article this Sunday, …long, but read and then pause and think!!!

    Pyramid scheme or genuine investment company?

    An online reader referred me to the crisis and chaos which occurred in Albania during and after a proliferation of ‘investment schemes’ which were in essence pyramid schemes.

    At its simplest, a pyramid scheme is an arrangement where money is taken from Peter to pay Paul. Peter comes in at the bottom and the money he has ‘invested’ along with others who have been wooed is used to pay Peter who came in before.
    If Peter carries with him Mary, the company may even pay Peter a special fee or commission for his action. For the sake of readers who have asked me to explain what a pyramid scheme is, I have borrowed freely from the website explaining an actual scheme which ended up in chaos not only for the depositors but the country also. The place was Albania, a poor and improperly managed eastern European country. The time is the 1990s. Read on and digest.

    “In a typical pyramid scheme, a fund or company attracts investors by offering them very high returns; these returns are paid to the first investors out of the funds received from those who invest later. The scheme is insolvent – liabilities exceed assets – from the day it opens for business. However, it flourishes initially, as news about the high returns spreads and more investors are drawn in.

    “Encouraged by the high payouts, and, in some cases, by showcase investments and ostentatious spending by the operators, still more people are drawn in, and the scheme grows until the interest and principal due to the early investors exceeds the money paid in by new investors. To attract new investors, a scheme may raise interest rates, but the larger interest payments soon force it to raise rates again. Eventually, the high rates begin to arouse suspicion or the scheme finds itself unable to make interest payments.
    “When investors try to get their money out, they discover the truth about the scheme, whose demise is swift – and usually accompanied by acts of outright theft by the operators, if they are not caught first.

    “Some of the Albanian companies met this definition exactly: they were pure pyramid schemes, with no real assets. Other cases are more ambiguous. Some of the largest of the companies… had substantial real investments. They were also widely believed to be engaged in criminal activities – including violating United Nations sanctions by smuggling goods into the former Yugoslavia – that were thought to be the source of the high returns they paid.

    “And they had been in business for a long time, in some cases since 1992. However, even if they had not been pyramid schemes from the outset, at some point, probably during early 1996, these companies too became pyramid schemes. When they collapsed, it was clear that their liabilities massively exceeded their assets.

    Mania: The events of 1996

    Two events set the stage for the pyramid-scheme mania of late 1996. First, at the end of 1995, United Nations sanctions against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia were suspended, eliminating an important source of income (smuggling) for the companies. In January 1996, the leading companies increased their interest rates from four/five per cent a month to six per cent a month, or almost 100 per cent annually in real terms. (Annual inflation in Albania was five percent in 1995 and 17 per cent in 1996.) Second, the uncertainty created by approaching parliamentary elections, which were to be held in May, prompted the companies to raise their rates again, this time to eight per cent a month, or a real annual rate of well over 100 per cent.

    “During the same period, new schemes entered the market, offering even higher rates. In early 1996, two new pyramid schemes…were created, and an already existing scheme that had no real investments…stepped up its activities, offering interest rates of 12-19 per cent a month.
    “The proliferation of schemes had baleful effects. First, more depositors were drawn in. Although … had the largest liabilities, it had only 85,000 depositors. … and … between them attracted nearly two million depositors-in a country with a population of 3.5 million – within a few months.

    “Second, the investment funds felt pressured to compete and began to offer higher interest rates on deposits. In July, one company raised its monthly interest rate to 10 per cent.
    “In September, another began offering more than 30 per cent a month. In November, yet still another offered to treble depositors’ money in three months; the first company responded with an offer to double principal in two months. By November, the face value of the schemes’ liabilities totalled US$1.2 billion.

    “Albanians sold their houses to invest in the schemes; farmers sold their livestock. The mood is vividly captured by a resident who said that, in the fall of 1996, Tirana smelled and sounded like a slaughterhouse, as farmers drove their animals to market to invest the proceeds in the pyramid schemes.

    “Throughout the year, the government was a passive spectator to the unfolding crisis. Although the enormity of the problem became clear when the Bank of Albania discovered that … deposits in the banking system were equivalent to US$120 million (five per cent of GDP), and despite repeated warnings from the IMF and the World Bank, the finance ministry did not warn the public about the schemes until October. Even then, however, it drew a false and misleading distinction between companies with real investments, which were believed to be solvent, and “pure pyramid schemes”.

    “When it was suggested that some companies might be surviving by laundering money, President Sali Berisha came to their defence. Press and public reaction was mostly negative: the IMF was accused of trying to close down Albania’s most successful firms. In November, in response to outside pressure, the government set up a committee to investigate the schemes. The committee never met.
    “On November 19, one of the main players defaulted on its payments, and the collapse began.

    Collapse

    “The largest company’s collapse shook the public’s confidence in all of the companies and new deposits dried up. An attempt by four other companies, VEFA, Kamberi, Silva, and Cenaj to convince depositors of their soundness by lowering monthly interest rates to five per cent failed. In January 1997, two companies declared bankruptcy, triggering riots. The other schemes soon also ceased to make payments.

    “The government belatedly took some useful steps. First, it refused to compensate depositors for their losses, which made achieving economic stabilisation after the crisis much easier than it would otherwise have been. Second, it began to move against some of the companies. In January 1997, it froze the bank accounts of two other companies Xhafferi and Populli, which amounted to US$250 million (10 per cent of GDP).
    “The Bank of Albania, on its own initiative, began to limit daily withdrawals from bank accounts to prevent other schemes from emptying their accounts. In February, parliament passed a law banning pyramid schemes (but not defining them). However, the government continued to differentiate between companies with real investments and pure pyramid schemes and did not move against the largest companies.

    “By March 1997, Albania was in chaos. The government had lost control of the south. Many in the army and police force had deserted, and one million weapons had been looted from the armouries. Evacuation of foreign nationals and mass emigration of Albanians began. The government was forced to resign. President Berisha agreed to hold new parliamentary elections before the end of June, and an interim coalition government was appointed.

    “The interim government inherited a desperate situation. Some 2,000 people had been killed in the violence that followed the pyramid schemes’ collapse. Large parts of the country were no longer within the government’s control. Government revenues collapsed as customs posts and tax offices were burned. By the end of June, the Lek had depreciated against the dollar by 40 per cent; prices increased by 28 per cent in the first half of 1997. Many industries temporarily ceased production, and trade was interrupted. Meanwhile, the major pyramid schemes continued to hang on to their assets, proclaim their solvency, and resist closure.

    Winding up the schemes

    “Despite the many obstacles it faced, the interim government, aided by the international community, made impressive progress in restoring order and stabilising the economy. Winding up the pyramid schemes proved to be more difficult. The government encountered resistance from both the operators and the outgoing parliamentarians, many of whom were reported to have invested in the schemes.

    “Thus, it was not until July that the newly elected parliament passed a law, drafted with assistance from the IMF and the World Bank, mandating the appointment of foreign administrators from international accounting firms to liquidate the schemes.

    “The administrators appointed under the new law were required to report regularly to the government but otherwise had complete independence. They were given broad powers to carry on the companies’ businesses, pay their debts, sell their assets, fire staff and managers, seize the assets of individuals connected with the schemes, and hire experts to trace assets abroad.

    “However, by November 1997, when the administrators took up their duties, the schemes’ liquid assets had shrunk considerably. The schemes’ owners challenged the new law in the courts and tried to intimidate the administrators with threats of violence. It took several months to dislodge the owners, partly because the administrators needed their cooperation in finding the companies’ assets. The administrators did not gain full control of all of the companies until March 1998.

    “Owners who had not fled were jailed, and whatever assets remained were prepared for sale. But much had been lost already.”

    Be careful with your money

    There is a basic law to life. All adults must take responsibility for their actions. Even if a grown person is led to a door by another grown person, the first person still has the responsibility to admit or to deny himself entry through that door.
    Earned income is a precious commodity and the person with funds gained from this income is always torn between enjoying it immediately, that is spending it immediately, or ’saving’ it in some institution which pays us (interest) to do so.

    If Paul has money, the only way Peter can get it from him is to either offer Paul a service or a good that he needs, Paul can volunteer to give the money to Peter (unlikely), Peter can offer Paul an inducement (interest) to secure the money, or Peter can stick a gun in Paul’s nose and say, ‘Gi mi di money or a shot yu!’
    There are always inventive ways to induce people to part with their money simply because there is not much utility value in stealing it, especially if one is law-abiding. Prison is hell. But there are also inventive ways of deferring the date of the ’stick-up.’

    It is the responsibility of investors to educate themselves. If one investment club promises me a high rate of return and it can give me a step-by-step account of how the money earns its interest, I would be more inclined to go that route. If another company simply makes magic and also makes it too good to be true, then if I should put my money there it should come as no surprise when my dark day of reckoning arrives.

    observemark@gmail.com

  849. Kurt said,

    October 22, 2007 at 1:58 am

    Just to add to #823. Minvestment is an obvious scam. Stay away!!! I found more dirt on them. Apparently they only started in Apr 07 yet they claim to have been around since 2000. Also, the progressive compounding option started in May which means that the first 150 day plans will be maturing soon (November/December). We will see if they do pay out or disappear like all the other ponzi schemes out there. I personally think they will be gone in the next three months max!

    Stick to Olint or learn to trade the forex market for yourself.

  850. Patrick_D said,

    October 22, 2007 at 2:55 am

    Greetings,

    Great discussions people. There has been a lot said with some real value for learning from all quarters. Let us keep it going with the sharing and most of all be respectful to each other’s points of view.

    Someone has asked about F1’s returns.. below are the rough averages as far as I know:

    Gold = 8%
    Platinum = 12%

    As Pipslovah has indicated, if you learn the forex market and become a skilled trader you can do better than these ‘managed accounts’. Be aware though that not all have the temperament to handle it… if you do, go right ahead and try… you might be pleasantly surprised.

    Looking for info on ‘Daisy’ as well… can someone email me at: roots_man2@yahoo.com. Thanks.

  851. Alavanzo said,

    October 22, 2007 at 3:11 am

    I’ve read the posts on this blog from top to bottom. I’ve seen perhaps dozens of request for info. on May Daisy. So far nobody has responded with any substance.

    Is this a mythical company beyond it’s one-page password-only website?
    Is NOBODY on this blog investing with May Daisy?
    Surely, someone knows something; certainly lots of readers of this blog would be interested in knowing, including me.

    How does the compensation work; what’s a phone number for direct contact; what are the conditions for joining; where does one go to join? etc.

    If you know and can help share some information, we’d all be grateful.

  852. Alavanzo said,

    October 22, 2007 at 3:14 am

    Oh, and if the info. on May Daisy has to be kept offline for some reason, please feel free to email with it and help me understand why that’s necessary
    I’m AAD1215&yahoo.com …thanks in advance.

  853. HD said,

    October 22, 2007 at 3:54 am

    Hey guys,

    Found this note. Even if it is not real or factual it is worth a read . Maybe those online HYIP’s are REALLY bad or you just need to make your profits QUICK. Then again , if this note is real, would one want to even give these guys your name and address ?

    —————————————————-
    Dear Invex Ltd. Players,

    This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us… until we open our next HYIP. We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.

    1 – The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones

    2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.

    3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.

    4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.

    5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by… you, idiots who “invested”

    OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was “Must we open a real company”. We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy

    Okay, let’s go to work now!

    1 – Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers’ best place, paying with e-gold.

    2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with… the debit card coming from the bank account above

    3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from…. an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who “invested” !

    To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc. You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them. And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted

    Other pros say “Let’s track the money”! Great idea, but don’t forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services

    How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That’s easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no “$800/day limits”, and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story

    We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!

    Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he “verifies ALL data” from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more “to preserve our privacy” Look at our dialogue by email:

    – HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don’t want to work with scammers.
    – US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.
    – HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.

    Thank you mister G. ))

    As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and “most reliable” (LOOOOL) one!

    Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some “political” associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.

    We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!

    But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara@bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!

    As a clever guy told in some forum, “there were no guarantees, so no need to cry”. YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why…!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn’t? THEIR CHOICE!

    When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don’t understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to “invest” here and there, and that is good… FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the “Andrewunknown”, proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of “no ponzi”, LOL, some of them are from us ))))

    —————————————-

  854. transformer said,

    October 22, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Hey guys,

    Attended one of the free MTI webinars and agents keep bugging me to buy their stuff since then. Of course I keep shaking them off cuz I don’t know that what they are selling is worth that much and not already available on the web. Also I just cant learn from DVD’s and CBT’s . I have to read and practice in order to learn.

    Question is does anyone know anybody that has been successful using any of MTI’s training programs ?

    They like to use David Smith’s name a lot even though David Smith probably was a very bright guy to start and probably used other material other than MTI’s.

  855. Carla said,

    October 22, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Basil

    Re # 840

    Thank you very much. I am looking forward to the referral.

  856. Mellonie said,

    October 22, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    #832:

    Gold Fund results, % in past 6 months

    Sept 10.59%
    Aug 8.86%
    July 9.64%
    June 7.15%
    May 10.18%
    April 9.78%

  857. SM said,

    October 22, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    #847

    Maydaisy is NOT a mythical company. It a private members club which means that you must be specially invited by someone who is a member.

    Let’s all be reasonable here. How can you ask a stranger to invite you into a private club. You know nothing about this person neither do they know anything about you. You could be an FSC agent trying to infiltrate the system. Next thing you see big AD from the FSC about Maydaisy not being registered (guess i’m paranoid, but can you blame me?)

    Personally i would not be willing to invite anyone via this blog.

  858. mathetes said,

    October 22, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    Greetings Friends

    I am extremely happy with the ‘colourful’ information posted by a lot of you. There is a lot to learn. Thanks to Patricia for posting Mark Wignal’s column. While I think that there are some major cultural and economical differences between Jamaica and 1990s Albania, there are some gems there to take home.

    BELIEVE THIS! Regarding HYIPs and Pyramids schemes, there are many out there. It is true that many are operated by ONE central organization/group or by an individual living in a cheap hotel/motel suite with internet, a 2g memory laptop, e-gold accounts, merchant accounts, bank accounts, a fancy website with graphs and figures claiming to be ‘THE BEST OFFSHORE” Investment opportunity.

    I never get involved in HYIPs (nor would my dead dog), even if Swisscash is resurrected I would never even think of investing there. Yes, some people may earn from HYIPs, however: 1. it is usually for a short time, 2. the profit is usually less than stipulated by the site, and/or 3. The profit is earned months after (not on time).

    Transformer, I have been MTI trained, but not a good example of it working because I havent been trading (starting this week). I know a number of persons who have been trained, and they have been making thousands (like everyone else, they have lost some $$$ too). I have confidence in the MTIs, CDs, manual, and the SUPPORT that the administration offers.

    Peace
    Andre

    With information, truth and discretion it is easier to make informed judgments.

  859. transformer said,

    October 22, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    Andre,

    Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. Great site by the way. I am thinking you could create an income stream for yourself by getting your own domain and adding Google ad sense.

    Did you get the ultimate traders package ? or did you get the less costly traders package ?

  860. transformer said,

    October 22, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Andre,

    Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. Great site by the way. I am thinking you could create an income stream for yourself by getting your own domain and adding G00gle adsense.

    Regarding MTI,
    Did you get the ultimate traders package ? or did you get the less costly traders package ?

  861. Terrence said,

    October 22, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    how much for the MTI package
    might just join it and do these fxtrading things for myself

  862. transformer said,

    October 22, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    Andre,

    did you go for the ultimate traders package or did you go for a smaller package ?

  863. SM said,

    October 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    Its just very interesting to see how many persons are asking about Maydaisy and not getting a response. Do you think that clearly persons who are members are not keen on giving any information via this blog.

    Its only reasonable then to assume that Maydaisy is indeed a ‘MYTHICAL COMPANY’

  864. Terrence said,

    October 22, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    how much is for these package does anyone know

  865. DR said,

    October 22, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    MTI package goes for US$2750

  866. mathetes said,

    October 22, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    I went for the Ultimate I payed over $2500.

    Andre

  867. TheOne said,

    October 22, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    Thanks for the info (#846) Patrick_D & (#852) Mellonie

  868. Terrence said,

    October 22, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    ok so was it woorth it
    did it help u (have you gained more by yourself than if you have invested the same int C+ or WW)
    and have you gotten back more than what u have paid

  869. mathetes said,

    October 22, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Well, I wasnt trading before. I now have the time to start trading. I have no doubt that I will make more than 15% per month if I dedicate myself to trading.

    I am surrounded by traders, even some who are novices. They have developed and shaped their strategy and they make money off mini-accounts they started with $600-$1200.

  870. lover said,

    October 23, 2007 at 12:01 am

    so mathetes it is possible for ww to pay 12% per month if they are really doing fx ?

  871. transformer said,

    October 23, 2007 at 12:34 am

    Hey Andre,

    So how long did it take your friends to get up to speed with the MTI package and start making money (on average)…1 month, 2months, 1 year ?

    Thanks again

  872. Investment Tech said,

    October 23, 2007 at 1:09 am

    MINVESTMENT
    There are a few important things that made me veeeery suspicious , so I decided to spend my time and right it all down.

    1. When I asked their live representative (literally 10 times) about where I can see a certificate, saying that Delten Holdings Inc is a real company, he never replied, not once, asking me if there’s anything else he can help me with.

    2. In their faq section it says the following:

    Can I meet you in person?
    We are currently in the process of establishing our branch offices worldwide. In the next couple of months we plan on opening several offices in North America, Europe and Southeast Asia. As soon as this takes place, you will be able to meet our representatives in person.

    I beg my pardon, but according to minvestment web-site, the company has been in business since 2000. What kind of a company is that if they don’t have an office and couldn’t get one for 7 YEARS!!!!!!!!

    3.The name of the company, as they claim it to be is Delten Holdings Inc. I searched for them online and nothing substantial came up.

    4.Why such a big company can’t afford a dedicated server? They are running of shared hosting account.

    Overall, this program makes me very cautious.
    If anyone has more information, please post, I would like to hear more views

    Dont think i am goin to invest anymore until my 150 days is expired

  873. Gail said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:00 am

    Hey people,

    has anyone heard of an investment club started by a group of retired airline pilots? The club suposedly pays 15 per cent interest per month. Any info?

  874. HD said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:19 am

    I tried the online chat with their “live” representative last Friday and the person was also evasive ?

    I asked: What would you say differentiates you from swisscash and are there any reasons to think that the same that happened with swisscash would not happen to your program ?

    they responded: cant think of any

    I am not exactly in sales but I face customers in my job from time to time and I know that you just don’t blow off or answer a question like that. You think of something even if you don’t know no matter how weak it might be.

    I also asked: If I use e-bullion and ebullion should close down for any reason what would happen to my “investment”.

    They responded: they wont close down

    My comment to that is the same.

    The answers were so unreal to the point that I thought I was corresponding with a computer. That really turned me off and made me re-consider my plans and that these HYIP’s appear too risky even to try and “play” them for a short term period.

    Plus I like to know that there is a warm body behind anything that I am putting my money into. Like WW and one other that I am in based in the US.

    I guess my next stop is Olint if I can get in or a strong Olint broker and then I need to learn rapidly how to trade for myself so that I can keep my money close to my chest.

  875. DR said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:21 am

    What do you all think about the investment a3 union. See their rates:

    http://a3union.com/funds.shtml

    I was trying to get in….but I had one problem….I uploaded my money using my credit card to moneybookers.com because it said at the time, that there were working with them….then all of a sudden THEY ARE NOT!…..needless to say, I seemed not to be able to get back my money from moneybookers.com.

    I was looking at 7forever.com sometime ago…..it eventully got lost.

    Decision: STAY FAR FORM INTERNET INVESTMENT COMPANIES, make sure they have a physical office in Jamaica.

  876. HD said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:21 am

    Gail,

    I think you might be talking about f1investment. Their platinum is 15% average so far.

  877. DR said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:27 am

    STAY FAR FROM INTERNET-BASED INVESTMENTS. I called F1 in florida, but even though they admitted that they have a base in Jamaica, they were un-willing to give me a phone number or address in Jamaica. Remember swiss cash……, 7forever.com……(all gone)

  878. mark said,

    October 23, 2007 at 3:49 am

    what is your view on world wise and what are the best investment schemes to join

  879. Investment Tech said,

    October 23, 2007 at 5:10 am

    i would not enter a3union, a coworker is in it and cant get money out. he keeps telling me that he cant draw more than 60% of his balance so as not to encounter problems. yet still he is still unable to withdraw 40

  880. Alavanzo said,

    October 23, 2007 at 6:21 am

    I’ve read the posts on this blog from top to bottom. I’ve seen perhaps dozens of request for info. on May Daisy. So far nobody has responded with any substance.

    Is this a mythical company beyond it’s one-page password-only website?
    Is NOBODY on this blog investing with May Daisy?
    Surely, someone knows something; certainly lots of readers of this blog would be interested in knowing, including me.

    How does the compensation work; what’s a phone number for direct contact; what are the conditions for joining; where does one go to join? etc.
    If you know and can help share some information, we’d all be grateful.

    Oh, and if the info. on May Daisy has to be kept offline for some reason, please feel free to email with it and help me understand why that’s necessary
    I’m AAD1215@yahoo.com …thanks in advance.

  881. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 23, 2007 at 11:44 am

    Patricia, thanks for that piece of info #844, it was excellent reading info.

    To all those who want to learn forex try googling Amazon .com and search for forex materials. you will find books starting from US$16 and up.
    Google online trading accademy , courses start at US$ 600 tapes and books
    and in class 5 day training US$ 1900.
    Good luck to you all and hope all will end well.

  882. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 23, 2007 at 11:55 am

    Adding to Pats article (# 844) and to those who desire more clarity on the subject Google Albania Pyramid Schemes

    Wishing you all a both a profitable and productive day/ rest of the year and safe investments.
    Remember the 3 Ps of any investment : Protect, Prepare and Preserve.

  883. Martin said,

    October 23, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    Hello all,
    I been reading some of the post here and people are starting to ask about the HYIP investments. Please people stay as far away as possible from them, because they are all SCAMS. Trust me I been there and lost all kinds of money thinking I could make 2-10% a day, it is just not possible. They are playing with your minds. Here are some websites where you can check out the hyips – Please stay away!

    http://www.goldpoll.com/
    http://www.hyipinvestment.com/

    Invest your hard earned money in LewFam or Onlit where you have a modern Robin Hood (David Smith) who is willing to make money for his fellow country men.

    Martin.

  884. managed forex said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    With Bull-Trading or Zurich-1Trading – both low risk you can make around 5% net per month consistantly. Find details at http://www.forex4investors.com

  885. mathetes said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Hey Transformer,
    it took my friends less than a month to earn money. The support that MTI offers plus the fact that they (including me) spent 1-2 weeks trading demo helped. We still trade the demo account to keep up to speed.

    Lover, any organization that has great FOREX traders, great equity management, etc can offer clients 12%. I CANT vouch for WorldWise simply because I am not a part of that club/group/organization nor do I have sufficient info on their operation.

    Andre

  886. mathetes said,

    October 23, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Greetings Friends

    Regarding clubs mentioned on this blog – Debating the POSSIBILITY of guaranteing a certain % per month is not most pertinent. The most pertinent issue, at least in my opinion, is the INTEGRITY of the organization(s) in question – especially those that offer financial services . What do I mean by INTEGRITY?:

    1. The club(s) must see it necessary to exhibit TRANSPARENCY. Anonymity is a flagrant redflag. I must know (atleast in black and white) that a % of my is not funding terrorism. If the club invests in other things apart from Real Estate then they should let me know.

    2. The club(s) must be ACCOUNTABLE to its clent/investor in all affairs relating to financial service. Documentation regarding the investment processes, additional acquisitions, and new investment ventures must be put on the table before and after dem do anting wid my money.

    3. The club(s) must consistently and intentionally provide GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. This entails the above, but it also means they must maintain amicable and due correspondence with clients via the phone and/or internet (emails).

    4. The club(s) must DELIVER. Every club/organization providing a service has a PROMISE (even the church)…They must fullfil it.

    REMEMBER HIGH RISK DONT MEAN HIGH ANONYMITY!

    Peace
    Andre

  887. transformer said,

    October 23, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    Andre,

    Good feedback as usuall. Thanks for the feedback on MTI in particular . It will really help a lot to make a decision whether to buy their package or rough it on my own .

  888. SM said,

    October 23, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    Hi,, Any comments on Col Trevor McMillian’s appointment to combat tax evaders?

  889. Patricia said,

    October 23, 2007 at 11:59 pm

    Greetings,

    I have been investigating/reviewing the different Investment options, and as I said earlier above, am not interested in Minvestments and I’ve now seen the additional info posted subsequently by others. Also not interested in F1 they could be giving away $$$$free, nothing down, dont care, because I have no idea who they are..and having asked them and they have not disclosed that is of concern. Same thing with May Daisy, A3 and the list goes on….

    I agree with one of the posters..it’s a bit different with, OLINT, CashPlus, LewFam,WW we know who they are, they have offices, we can even physically deal with them(however we choose if they turn out to be crooks).

    Now onto C+, I will take the risk, in the short term as I have concerns about their aggresive rates. I would not venture past a 6 months rollover tenure.What I find ridiculous is the 3 & 5 year rollover rates……and they are guaranteeing those rates..if you invest say JMD$100k in the 5yr rollover plan, that’s over 1Billion at maturity, and that’s just one person, what if 10 or 20 people did that?????? NONSENSE, is what I say. There will be many Peters wishing they had been Paul.

    Also F1Gold Plan performance for the past 6 months, really not much diiferent from LewFam, and with LewFam you know who they are,so why complicate your investments with an additional risk factor, ie unknown entity/individuals.To me the lesser of the 2 evils(WW v. F1) is WW, and you know where to find them.

    People sometimes commonsense not very common, and it get even more scarce, when clouded by greed…tready lightly..stop and think..dont waste time chasing the highest rates..stick to the tried and true, or trade for yourself. Some of us will plod on nonetheless as nuff man head only mek fi wear cap!!!

  890. Investment Tech said,

    October 24, 2007 at 12:47 am

    Minvestment
    Made a few phone calls today and found out a bit more on DHI.

    Commonwealth Trust is a company that nutures businesses like jamaicas TIC. They are responsible for nuturing DHI who owns minvestment.

    The same address for Commonwealth trust is the same address for minvestment.

    They do have proper business certificates and are very much legal.

    However when i posed the question of the credibilty of minvestment to the commonwealth trust representitive she made it clear that even though they build the businesses they are not responsible for what they do or their day to day operation.

    Funny though how can a company be in an incubator when they are supposed to be operating for 7 years now.

  891. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 24, 2007 at 12:49 am

    #867

    DR, please note that you also should never use credit cards if you decide to the risk with HYIPs..

    NEVER!!!!

    And if u decide that you will take the risk and you could go ahead and test it with small amounts only, in different invetments plans

  892. truewords said,

    October 24, 2007 at 4:47 am

    The Rich will forever be richer.

    All I can gather fram all a dis is that a man wid plenty money a figure out seh the best ponzi scheme right now is fi go Jamaica open a office, put somebody in charge and mek it look like is him own everything, mek sure everybaddy can si di office an di staff and can seh hello good morning to dem and then stay one side collect him money and den run and leave everybody else a whole di bag….nobody would even know seh is him.

    A rich white man seh to mi one time….tings are not always what they appear to be.

    I see here people ignoring the institution, because now they have been trained to do that, people deceiving themselves, and after deceiving themselves they deceiving others.

    The herd mentality has taken a hold out of greed. A cult like following has formed and people just want to know that their brother is doing it and they just follow. The people are very predictable now. Put it on the internet somewhere , hide it a little bit, and they will believe it. The scammers and crooks are learning, they are proving their techniques over and over. That is, you can always get to a man through his brother/sister/friend/relative….dis forum proving it.

    Warren Buffet say just go wid you instinct….no need fi watch ar listen to weh everybody else a do otherwise there will never be any pioneers. An get advice from true professionals and experts.

    Not too many here plan to set up dem own investment program I think… das weh di real money is !!!

  893. Anthony said,

    October 24, 2007 at 5:13 am

    Hi guys
    Would u believe that 7:30pm this evening, people were still at cash plus waiting to sign up re new rates. To all a my fellow trend setters who risk it from early to make the dough so non believers r now believers I say big up and more prosperity.
    To all the new comers to the game I say control your emotions just as how u would like your trader to control his, and never expose all your capital especially if u only plan on investing in one company, If u r able to, spread the risk now r after six months.
    I personally think that u all r still pretty early for the party, after all we only had the appetizer.
    Glad u could make it. Happy hunting.

  894. DR said,

    October 24, 2007 at 11:55 am

    #880 PoorRiskTeka….

    Thanks for the advice..I will never do that again…Fortunately the money was small…………

    Is it really true Lee-Chin does not have his own investment club?
    (I have heard he has one but it is for the rich and famous.)

    What about Mr Azan’s club? Thoughts anyone?

    Maybe we should be thinking about clubs that are not as famous…as the ones mentioned on this blog. At least FSC would not know about them. Think about that.

  895. TMC said,

    October 24, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    Andre..when you and friends started MTI course, were you trading before? So you had a shorter learning curve?

  896. HD said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Investment Tech , you really digging up dirt on these guys man…..good stuff anyway.

    People go with what you are comfortable with and take only the risk that you can afford or comfortable taking. You know what you are comfortable with and what you need to know to get that comfortable feeling. Do your own research and when you find the information that you need go for it. It doesn’t help to wait too long either .

    Pound mentioned the 3 Ps that is also important to remember. Stay on top of things and manage your risk.

    Spread the risk far and wide.

  897. HD said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    Anthony, good words.

  898. Pipslovah said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Hey guys,
    Just want to say be careful when you’re playing with HYIPs on the net…They’re almost 99.9% scammers, u might get lucky on the first few runs with them, but once they get u on hook to put in more money, they’ll eventually disappear from the face of the earth. So be very careful.

    For those who wanted stuff on forex, I posted an image b4 on Andre’s Everything forex blog, so feel free to chk them out for all your learning needs.

    As for the great Sir JOHN who thinks FX trading’s bullshit from before, I decided to show u one of my personal smaller live accounts that I’m using my developed trading robot system on. I uploaded the client report from my broker to this site, its in the format of PDF so most ppl can view it with adobe acrobat reader. I personally requested to have my sensitive information removed from the report in case one of u here are hackers and try to break into that account ;)
    Here’s the link:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?f2zhjltmze0

    It takes a while for the “Click Here to Start Download” link to appear though, i think about 30 or so seconds..but it will show up for u to click on eventually :)

    From Oct 7,2007 with a starting balance of $1066USD to today Oct 24, 2007 the balance is now $16,340 so thats roughly 1432% ROI in less than a month trading period right. ;)

    I hope this gives inspiration to those who are willing to learn and stop throwing away ur money on HYIPs that will run away with your money someday.

  899. HD said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    truewords, hmmmm…you should watch your language.

  900. HD said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    Investment T,

    Just thought I would share the Wikepedia definition for HYIP’s like minvestment that I came across last week.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

  901. HD said,

    October 24, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    Those Cash Plus plans do seem somewhat ridiculous….and makes you wonder why they had to increase the rates ….I guess if they are really doing forex trading among other things then they can offer these rates.

  902. DR said,

    October 24, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    Folks, you need to understand the politics behind what’s happening. People were leaving CPlus 10% for WW 12%….so in order to re-gain some of those folks they had to raise theirs to 14% for six months etc…..

    If CPlus gets registered with FSC, then all others will sink. READ MY LIPS!

    Cplus is not trading FX…they simply are a modern-day-FINSAC….buying out dead companies that they plan to revive. It is a rumour that they have ‘investments” overseas. God bless CP…. I would never say anything negative about them…..they’ve have helped out alot of Jamaicans.

  903. DR said,

    October 24, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Remember that in the public, Cplus competitor is WW…..You cannot get into Olint now (directly). read between the lines….All other clubs are behind the scences…..You have to be reffered…you have to have a friend in “high places” to find out about those others.

    Align yourselves with Clubs that are “friendly” with the government of the day. I cannot get any more clearer than that. the government will never lock down their own….(so we feel).

    READ! THINK! and CHECK! before you invest.

  904. Mr Investor said,

    October 24, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    People in Ja I hope you have seen the Gleaner Oct 24. Worldwise is not registered as a company by the Companies Office of Ja as said on its website. They have also said that they have being trading since 2003, there is no proof of that. I told you all before this company is ran by a criminal

  905. JK said,

    October 24, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    not registered and them still have offices……..the govt woulda clamp down long time…….running a business which is heard an known by many and not been registered…..come on……..http://www.orcjamaica.com/search/showresults2.asp?searchtype=company&search=simple&busname=world+wise

  907. Basil said,

    October 24, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    Hi HD #866

    You made me laugh for half an hour with that ” cant think of any”
    answer.

    Thanks man.

  908. Kevin 2 said,

    October 24, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    Cplus has helped a number of Jcans and this is wonderful. The biggest question is how much longer will they be able to do? Do you folks really know what 18% a month guarantee for 5 years really means on a compounding basis. ? The accumulation factor is $20,555. That is if you invest say $100,000 with Cplus you will get back 100,000 x 20,555 = $2.06billion. Let’s just say that Cplus has under management funds of about $200million Jamaican ( I am sure it is more than that). That would be $200million x 20,555 = $4.1 Trillion (Yes trillion with a T!!) Do you think Cplus can find that money to pay its holders in 5 years? I will leave that to you all to decide.

    If Cplus is not in fx trading then based on their asset holdings I see nothing that can sustain that return (18%). Maybe they are trading other derivatives ?? Even fx trading is hard to guarantee 18% per month. Just look at OLINT. They don’t guarantee anything and those guys are professional traders. I know you can make 100% in an hour but you can lose 150% the next.

    I am not saying that you shouldnt go with Cplus but be VERY CAREFUL in going too long with them. Personally I think after 6months they will still be around so going in for 6months is OK but after then a very careful assessment will be needed.

  909. VMS said,

    October 24, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    Hi Everyone …
    Its been a while and I can see from what i have been reading that everyone has armed themselves with the right ammunition in making informed decision.. Congrats to you all.. I am trying to find out if anyone here has heard about any investment giving 60-70% per year by Lee Chin? If so, Is it link to NCB or is it just an independent investment. I also heard it was in the sunday gleaner some months or weeks back… Keep up the good work.
    Thanks

  910. VMS said,

    October 24, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    About the Cashplus rates, Could it be that they are having problems paying the monthly interest and to not run into serious trouble they are trying to get people to not withdraw monthly? I wonder if they are spreading themselves too thin and now it might just start taking its toll.. lets hope I m wrong and they are right..

  911. Kevin 2 said,

    October 24, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    VMS. I can’t say but what I can say is if you see them increaing rates further anytime soon then pull all funds because that would signal the likely start of a spiral.

  912. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 24, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    #892

    Mr. Investor, I read the same article you did but I checked and the company is registered. Here’s the link please see for yourselves.. I am not backing the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the company.. but here are the facts as posted on the Office Of the Registrar of Companies.. People always do proper research before you share information with others.

    http://www.orcjamaica.com/search/showresults2.asp?searchtype=company&search=simple&busname=world+wise+partners+limited

  913. DR said,

    October 24, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    Yes Lee-Chin has paid out 62% but it was over a two-year period. When you go to NCB,,,,ask for AIC investments.

  914. Michael Rowe said,

    October 24, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    VMS and all with concerns about CASH PLUS I think a company that’s undertaking four housing projects (according to articles in the gleaner or observer) in Jamaica has a bright future. From what I read there’s a need for housing and Cash Plus seems to be poised to supply that demand. Can someone how is a member of Cash Plus shed some light on how they acquire there assets. My understanding is that they buy them cash.This might mean they could have cash flow problems,but on the other hand what about all the other bussiness they own that brings in cash,the shipping co.,security co.,local air line ,phone service co. , construction hardware , entertainment co. ect. these are revenue earners. I think from everything that I have read in the gleaner and observer that this company is solid. The high interest rates for the long term accounts are because those investors are taking higher risk. Also as mentioned in the papers and on this blog they are preparing to meet the FSC requirements ,which requires the auditing of their accounts among other things.With that said,I do have a problem with them I did the online application and wired funds to them on 10/16 and no response yet.I know that’s bad for business prompt contact with investors is VERY IMPORTANT. Does anyone know how long it takes to process the online accounts? I think there just busy so they need more employees , another demand they can fill in Jamaica. That’s my take.

  915. PoorRiskTeka said,

    October 24, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    #897

    VMS, I know of this investment. I had called to check upon it. NCB is offering it through AIC. It’s operated in a similiar fashion as a mutual funds where the returns can either be up or down. If I remember correctly the names were something like AIC Advantage II Corporate Class.

    If you call NCB Capital Markets, you will be able to get more information on it that is, if they havent already pulled it. I think they just did it because they were trying to get some of the business from the US Investment things going on..

  916. Kevin 2 said,

    October 24, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    Michael #902
    I appreciate your comments on Cplus but that does not take away from the fact that there are some potentially ginormous payouts that they may face in the future. If this is definitely the real deal then the jamaican govt should give them say $50m USD and jamaica will not only be debt free in a few years but be one of the richest countries in the world.

  917. Pips said,

    October 24, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    Hi Chris,
    I’m having serious trouble posting on that everything forex blog, its eating all my posts like b4… email me at pipslovah@yahoo.com and we’ll continue the conversation there.

  918. TRIGGA said,

    October 24, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    HAS ANYONE BEEN PAID BY LEWFAM FOR SEPTEMBER.

  919. Phillip said,

    October 25, 2007 at 4:08 am

    Hello All,
    I have a quick question regarding OLINT. I have been told that there is actually an A plan and a B plan with OLINT, with the A plan receiving higher returns.
    Is anyone aware of suck plans within OLINT or is this just a rumor?

    Thanks,
    Phillip

  920. Phillip said,

    October 25, 2007 at 4:11 am

    Hi All,
    Is anyone aware of different interest plans withing OLINT? A friend told me that he is on an “A plan” and is receiving a higher interest rate than those people wo have the general “B plan”. Is this correct for OLINT or did I just misunderstand his statement? Up till today I was only aware of one plan.

  921. yardman said,

    October 25, 2007 at 4:19 am

    From 200K To 13 Billion

    As his banking venture in Jamaica suggests, Michael Lee-Chin has shown both financial ingenuity and a flair for

    marketing throughout his career. A centerpiece of his marketing has been his own rags-to-riches story.

    He was born in Port Antonio, formerly a center of the Jamaican travel trade and now a favored

    destination of eco-tourists trying to escape the hubbub of Kingston and Montego Bay. His

    Chinese-Jamaican parents, both store clerks, had nine children. For college, Lee-Chin headed to Canada

    and the engineering program at McMaster University. After his freshman year, he found himself running

    out of money and worried that he wouldn’t be able to finish his degree. With the last of funds, he bought a

    plane ticket back to Jamaica.

    Once there, he didn’t set out for his hometown. Instead, he headed to Kingston, the capital, and asked for

    an audience with the prime minister. There, he made a pitch: If the government would give him a

    scholarship to finish his degree in civil engineering, he would return and apply his education and

    expertise to his home country. He left that day with a check for $15,000. As promised, he returned to

    Jamaica after graduation in 1974, taking a job as a highway engineer. Within two years, he decided to

    return to Toronto where he eventually found a job as a broker. It was the start of his financial career.

    In 1987, he bought Advantage Investment Counsel for $200,000. At the time, it had less than $1 million

    in assets under management. Within five years — which Lee-Chin calls the “natural gestation period for a

    business” — it had grown to about $8 million under management. With a five-year track record, the firm

    started to draw attention and, by the mid-1990s, it had reached $200 million under management. Then

    the boom period hit, and it grew to $13 billion by the end of the decade.

    Part of Lee-Chin’s approach to business was his practice, early in his career, of studying successful

    investors, including Warren Buffett, whom he calls a role model, and trying to puzzle out their methods.

    That enabled him to identify certain strategies which many of these people followed. For example, they

    owned a few high-quality businesses in growth industries, and they deeply understood those businesses.

    They invested for the long term, and, where possible, they leveraged their investments with other

    people’s money. Lee-Chin said he has applied the same ideas at AIC.

    His observations also led him to conclude that one common principle of investing — diversification –

    didn’t make sense. “The average mutual fund owns 100, 200 or 300 stocks and turns them over every six

    months,” he said. “How is it possible to understand 200 to 300 businesses? Our mutual funds aren’t

    managed traditionally. They hold 15 to 17 businesses in strong long-term growth industries.” AIC

    Advantage, for example, held 13 stocks at the end of September. Since inception, its return has averaged

    about 12% a year, although it lost money in three of the last six years.

  922. Dennis said,

    October 25, 2007 at 4:50 am

    Hi Phillip,

    I would appreciate it if you would contact me at dwalcott@mailcan.com

    I am in Miami.

    Thanks,
    Dennis.

  923. Mr. Skeptic said,

    October 25, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Here is some usefull information on Cash plus based on a previous interview with the comp.

    http://badabe123.blogspot.com/2007/10/some-info-on-cash-plus.html

  924. Joelle Clayton said,

    October 25, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    Can anybody give me a referral to cash plus PLEASE??? and tell me about the process invovled in getting signed up… Thanks

  925. Dominik said,

    October 25, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    #906 Trigga
    Yes LewFam paid for September 11.92%

    #907 Phillip
    Yes OLINT has 2 different plans & Plan A receives a higher interest rate.

  926. Patricia said,

    October 25, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    Mr. Skeptic..that blog is an extract of a previous article that appeared in the Observer earlier this year..I think the interview with Carlos Hill was done by either Mark Wignall or Al Edwards, don’t remember which one. But interestingly enough, in that interview Carlos Hill emphatically denied that C+ engaged in FX trading…..and to go back to Kevin 2’s post…if they aren’t, then how are they generating the revenue stream to pay(& guarantee) those high rates each month. Even if you leave out the rollover accounts, those rates are VERY HIGH, GIVEN THE BUSINESSES C+ is stated to be in.

    Like the majority of folks I really hope they dont crash anytime soon(or at all), but I ‘m very weary about the long term viability of their plans.

  927. Patricia said,

    October 25, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Phillip, Are you sure about the Plan A, I know they had 2 diff plans,but had stopped the higher risk one..awhile back..When was it revived??

  928. Steve said,

    October 25, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Thanks for all the info. ? If u live in the US and invest through friends thru Olint or C+ in JA whats the best way to get the returns to the US and is that taxable? If so how do u show as income/gains on tax returns since you do not get a 1099. Thanks…….

  929. Dennis said,

    October 25, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Chris Re 805
    “The number you have reached has either been disconnected or is no longer in service”

    Hey Basil,

    Address:
    Unit #12, Caribbean Place
    Providenciales
    Turks & Caicos Islands
    British West Indies
    (649)941-4994

  930. Steve said,

    October 25, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    #915- Sorry I was asking for anyone’s assistance on this. Thanks

  931. Joe Joe said,

    October 25, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    Steve
    If you have an U.S. account in Jamaica all you have to do is withdraw the money from an ATM in the U.S. If you are with Scotia bank you can withdraw from a Bank of America ATM without paying a fee. Scotia will also allow you to change your daily ATM withdrawal max, but this has to be done in Jamaica. As for taxes you need to talk to you tax man.

  932. Angella said,

    October 25, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    Wealth Builder needs to address its tardiness. Since June of this year it has been late with its statements and their statements are always prone to errors – whether it be amounts incorrect, date incorrect, rate incorrect.

    Always check your statement with a “fine tooth comb” when or if rece from wealth Builder.

    ERROR ALWAYS

  933. Steve said,

    October 26, 2007 at 2:27 am

    Thanks Joe Joe

  934. VMS said,

    October 26, 2007 at 2:37 am

    Everytime I try to get info on a particular investment scheme I end up with more questions than answers…Everone has something to say. As it relates to World Wise on this blog people seem to be saying they have lost money with this guy Niel, Noel or something..

    Today I was talking to some people who are in WW and was told they are owned by RBTT … Maybe i dont understand what they are saying but it seems that RBTT is trading for them and they say thats why everyone have to deposit their money @ RBTT and thats where they get their statements on monthly payouts…Does anyone here ever heard anything like that ??????? His anyone here in WW and has to always go through RBTT?

  935. JK said,

    October 26, 2007 at 3:06 am

    rbtt is jus WW bank and nothing more…….money is held there for the company

  936. VMS said,

    October 26, 2007 at 4:36 am

    So how do people come up with these kinda things..

  937. JK said,

    October 26, 2007 at 6:25 am

    chat fart!

  938. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 26, 2007 at 9:27 am

    Steve, it’s good to see that you are so optimistic ( counting the chickens before they are hatched).
    You are worried about Taxes.
    Google Joe Lewis The Independent and you will see how Billionaire currency trader (Joe Lewis) avoid taxes by relocating from London

  939. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 26, 2007 at 10:41 am

    Education Materials: Google Worlds Greatest Trader

    Google Jesse Livermore the trader

    Buy the book Jesse Livermore the trader, a must read or buy and give it to your teenager as a gift.

  940. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 26, 2007 at 10:43 am

    Wishing you all profitable times with good health

  941. Annie said,

    October 26, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Is it true that Higgins Warner had problems paying out interest.

    Can someone “enlighten my darkness”

    I need to know because I am thinking about investing with them

  942. Anthony said,

    October 26, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Hey Pound,
    I am still waiting for that map u promised to chart for me so I can pass on info to some of my poor brothers and sisters who r not as fortunate as say u and I.
    I know someone who anxiously waits for your answer to assist in alleviating himself from poverty to a better life.
    Also note I googled rich dad poor dad and passed on the concepts of both fathers to the person and it was well received also the person is looking for the first month interest from wordwise so u see a little help from u could really be what the doctor ordered and maybe we could both see this person actually own a piece of real estate.

  943. Patricia said,

    October 26, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    Hi Guys, well the greenback sell off continued today…Euro/CAD higher….hhhhmmm, the US taking serious hit. Here in the Great White North the CAD hit 31 yr high. Met with cheers by many, but the retailers & Manufacturers baaawling, and want concessions from Min Of finance, if they are to lower prices. Imagine CAD stronger than USD, yet most consumer items 20-40% higher in Canada, than in the states. The line up at the borders is like 3hrs on average, as people head south to shop till they drop….not good for C’dian economy though.hhhmm interesting times……

    For daily FX updates and commentary , http://biz.yahoo.com/fxcm/ is a useful site. Have a good w/end all

  944. TB said,

    October 27, 2007 at 3:59 am

    http://www.minvestment.com/?r=jettt
    Its going good so far
    Check it out!

  945. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 27, 2007 at 4:49 am

    Anthony , how are you?
    Let’s start from scratch,I will be doing a general road map on how to get out of rent from where one is, so some things may not apply to you.
    The first rule towards financial growth or financial prosperity is the ability to save and to spend your time productively ( watch your company, time wasters, surround yourself with progressive freinds, do not watch too much TV, while driving you can learn something by playing an educational tape or cd).
    Let’s go back to savings, I can not emphasize the importance of having the ability to save. This has to be embedded in you from say the age of 3 years
    of age,if not it is almost impossible to save when one becomes an adult.
    Many people complain about not having any thing or any savings because the decipline is lacking. It does not matter if you make $ 1000 per week or $100,000 it’s the principle.
    One must be able to live a progressive life style. Drinking, gambling, drugs, womanizing are not progressive, one can not have their cake and eat.

    Having the basics as mentioned above we can then go forward and acheive
    some financial goals from renting to home ownership.

    Stay away from Real Estate agents and brokers (unless they are you close close freinds who will work with you) when buying, you must do the leg work yourself to find good bargains.
    Focus on the 4 Ds when looking for a motivated seller: Death, Divorce, Drugs and Desease .
    When driving look for land as well as house, talk and ask around the community, send the word out that you are looking for some property to buy.
    Do not let the first house be your dream house ( the focus is to get out of rent), look at something within your budget.
    While driving look around for abandon, half finish , vacant or distress looking property.
    You find the address , you then find out who are the owners or who is incharge. You can talk to neighbours and usually you will discover the owner.
    Having found the owner, you have to do the approach. let’s say the owner is Investor , You will say Mr Investor I am Tony, I am interested in buying your property (land or house) if you are selling, if he says it’s not for sale you ask him if you can leave your card should in case his mind changes, if he says yes it is for sale, you then will get a price from him , you should have an idea how much similar property is going for in the area and negotiate a fair discounted price, plead your case as if you are trying to own your first house or piece of land in order to get out of rent and it’s a struggle so you would appreciate whatever help can be given. You must ask in order to receive.
    Let’s say you agree on a price of say $400,000, you will then use an option technique to purchase. It goes like this when you are making an offer to purchase, I will give you $20,000 deposit (5%) and the balance of $380,000 in payments as follows $3200 per month for 3 or five years
    and the remaining balance will be paid in full.
    The 3200 per month should be the rent you are now paying , the deposit
    you should get from savings i spoke about earlier or from a Partner, ( Partner /Draw or sometimes called sou sou).
    If you get the land or a distress piece of property you have got to go in and just fix up a portion to move in then you do the rest later.
    Once you are in you have to improve the property by either paying for the improvements or sweating it yourself. If you do not know how to do any of the work you can learn almost any thing about construction by googling
    Home Time and buying the different tapes. If you do not have the Money , you have time ( sweat equity).
    The big payment after 3 or 5 years will be obtained when you have improve the property and can now go to a bank or credit union to refinance.
    While doing the improvement you may even create an additional rental space to get additional income.
    In the case of land it may be big enough that you can sell off a piece of buildable lot to free up some cash.
    Anthony I hope this helps, it defineately can be done with some hard work and planning. Join a Credit union.
    The Land may be your best bet if all else fails, you can pay down on a piece and then once you are ready to build, you can start with a 3 or so rooms and later you add.
    you get a few freinds and work men and you go there and just sweat it out.
    Never give mr investor any money before going through your attorney and be careful how you give out info about the property you have found before signing a contract, otherwise your freind will snatch it from you.
    All info is on the net at your disposal, for example you can google How to Build a House. The website Home Time is Very Helpful. Good Luck on your project

  946. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    October 27, 2007 at 5:14 am

    Anthony, you may have to look and talk to a few owners before your offer is accepted, never give up, be persistent, and remember Attitude is everything and the greatest factor is you ( U ). U will be the greatest factor for success or failure. You must always follow up. Attitude is 100 %. Proof is as follows
    A 1
    T 20
    T 20
    I 9
    T 20
    U 21 The individual (highest factor)
    D 4
    E 5

  947. chillin said,

    October 27, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    Does anyone has have information on
    capitalhillfxclubs on how to get in or any other info

  948. truewords said,

    October 28, 2007 at 12:54 am

    The wise man build his house upon a rock.

  949. Patricia said,

    October 28, 2007 at 3:04 am

    chillin, just visit their sitehttp://www.capitalhillfxclubs.com/home.php, but you need to have some serious dough to be a member, and checkout their rates!!!, they need to do some serious proof reading of their content..yikes!!!!

  950. Anthony said,

    October 28, 2007 at 6:01 am

    Hey Pound
    I knew I could depend on you and I must say what u said makes sense and I will surely pass on info to a few friends. The beauty about your suggestions though is that I got to admit that if I personally employ some strategies mentioned re real estate I should be able to say own some assets unlike my house which is really a liability (u made me aware of this). As we progress on life’s journey feel free to continue educating us as to avenues we could choose re that financial security we so hunger for, and that one day we in turn will be able encourage our brothers and sisters as u so encourage us.
    May u have a wonderful weekend.

  951. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:39 am

    Zunamie #195 are you interested in getting me into olint? wont mind disscussing a fee.

  952. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:41 am

    my email bahalla72@gmail.com

  953. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:43 am

    AD # 516, Are you interested in getting me into olint. I wont mind disscussing a fee for your sercices my email is bahalla72@gmail.com.

  954. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:45 am

    Mn Investor #283, are you interested i getting me into olint? I wont mind discuccing a fee for your services. my email is bahalla72@gmail.com

  955. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:48 am

    Anthony #263, are you interested in getting me into olint? I would not mind disscussing a fee for your services. my email is bahalla72@gmail.com

  956. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:50 am

    Domain 207 are you intertested in getting me into olint? I would not mind disscussing a fee for your services. my email is bahalla72@gmail.com

  957. Don said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:52 am

    Anyone else out there that is a member of olint and is interested in getting me in would be greatly appreciated and I wont mind disscussing a fee for your services. My email is bahalla 72@gmail.com.

  958. Albert Brown said,

    October 28, 2007 at 11:57 am

    DEAR SIRS, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT WITH OLOINT CORP, I HOPE THE OPPORTUNITY IS STILL OPEN FOR ME TO DO SO. KINDLY ADVISE IF IT IS STILL POSSIBLE .

    I LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR RESPONSE AT YOUR EARLIEST.
    GOD BLESS.
    YOURS RESPECTFULLY,
    ALBERT BROWN

  959. Dennis said,

    October 28, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    Re #814

    Hello Mr Skeptic.

    Contact me at dwalcott@mailcan.com I cannot publish that information here.

  960. Dennis said,

    October 28, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Re 934 and 936

    You also need to be referred by a member. Anyone in here a member of Capitalhillfxclubs?

  961. chillin said,

    October 28, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    response to 936 & 947.
    i want to get some more information on capitalhillfxclubs before joining, i need to know if its for real or a scam. so patricia can you give me a referal.

  962. Carl said,

    October 28, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Higgins has not paid interest for October has yet.

  963. damian said,

    October 28, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Kareen, Juliet or Mark ,can you guys verify any delays in payment from Higgins Warner or current requirements about joining. Please post or email me at siholdingsllc@gmail.com

  964. Patricia said,

    October 29, 2007 at 12:28 am

    Chillin, sorry , not a member of CapitalHillFx. but you should read the site..apparently, being referred and having the minimum investment is no guarantee they’ll admit you. There are contact #s on the site, why dont you call them????.

  965. anthonythelandman said,

    October 29, 2007 at 1:14 am

    Hi I am Anthony in Florida, I am a Trinidadian working in the US. I am very interested in getting vested in OLINT of lewfamclub.com can anyone set me in the right direction. I understand tht I have to be referred by a current member.
    my email is anthonythelandman@yahoo.com

  966. chillin said,

    October 29, 2007 at 2:02 am

    reaponse to #951
    actually patricia they called me after signing up with a referal i made up and the minimum is actually much less but i just need to know some from jamaica who is in cpaital hillfx i will be more assured when joining them

  967. AD' said,

    October 29, 2007 at 3:29 am

    Hello Bloggers i have been asking for some time now is it possible for someone to send me a referral to f1investment.

    thanks

  968. DR said,

    October 29, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    What is the interest rate being offered by Capital Hill FX? do they have an office or representatives in Jamaica?

  969. Patricia said,

    October 29, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Chillin, am not in Ja, but up in C’da….I dont know anyone in Capitalhill nor anyone who has even heard of them……hhhhmmm, they signed you up with a made up referral, red flag, for me…they are providing misleading info on their site, and also Chillin, that site has so many grammatical and spelling errors, I am little weary…But, Hey!!!1 keep your fingers(&toes) crossed, Good Luck!!…having taken the plunge..pls keep us posted.

  970. neil said,

    October 29, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    we all have to realiaze the type of society we are now living in. we have evolved from those days when we use to save under our beds,the key word is GLOBALIZATION_ when we have unselfishness and honesty then each one can teach each one how not to be rich but not to be poor.

  971. AD' said,

    October 29, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    Hello fellow bloggers i would like to invest in world wise and wanted to know if i will need a referral to join? Also has anyone had problems with them paying out money at anyone point i live in the states and wanted to know it i need to know anything before i sign up and Wire funds to there account.

    much thanks

  972. VMS said,

    October 29, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    Hi everyone,
    Could some one please send me an invite to Lewfam Club .. Thank you. my email address is..rashheed@hotmail.com

  973. Coreg said,

    October 29, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Hi everyone,
    Could some one please send me an invite to f1investment Club .. Thank you. my email address is..francis_sean@hotmail.com

  974. Coreg said,

    October 29, 2007 at 8:50 pm

    Hi everyone,
    Could some one please send me an invite to f1investment .. Thank you. my email address is..francis_sean@hotmail.com

  975. DG said,

    October 30, 2007 at 12:27 am

    Is pure crowd down at C+ this afternoon. The line for adding money to existing accounts actually went outside of the office and into the walkway. Persons who want to open a new account will have to go to Premier Plaza to do so. Skipped across to WW. I counted 8 persons in the office when I went – all were opening new accounts. The car park was full as usual.
    By the way, if anybody is changing their old C+ account to one with the new rates, I was told that is only done on a Saturday – 9am to 2pm if memory serves correctly. Trust me – the crowd out there is massive.

  976. anthonythelandman said,

    October 30, 2007 at 2:06 am

    Is it true lewfam pays a 5% commission of profits for refferals?

  977. TheOne said,

    October 30, 2007 at 2:16 am

    #973 Coreg
    You don’t need an invite to F1 Investmentsinc. just go to site and follow instructions.

  978. Risk_Taker said,

    October 30, 2007 at 4:24 am

    We all know that hyips are very risky but you can make money from them if you get in early and leave asap. Any of you guys who are into taking risks like me can join this fairly new hyip that I found. As usual only risk what you can afford to lose. The referral program is very nice too. Check it out!!!

    https://gold-finance.net?ref=70

  979. KVC said,

    October 30, 2007 at 4:37 am

    Not sure if advertising is allowed here but anyway check out this opportunity.

    http://retireasap.cyberwize.com

    You can make alot of US $$$ from this. Read through the compensation plan especially and use the contact link on the site to send me an email for more information.

  980. Dominik said,

    October 30, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    #976 anthonythelandman …. yes LewFam pays 5% on your referrals gain per month.

    Example – You refer Mr. X and he deposits $1000 and the percentage gain for the month is 10%. Mr. X makes $100 from his deposit and you would get $100 x 5% = $5 as the referral gain.

  981. Dennis said,

    October 30, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    I sincerely hope that this forum does not become a dumping ground for junk MLM and HYIP opportunities.

  982. truewords said,

    October 30, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    Start your own business
    Learn to trade yourself
    invest your “own” money into “real” investments
    trust only people you know or people you have control over with investing your money
    Remember Marcus

  983. May Daisy said,

    October 30, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    MayDaisy invitation : https://s.p10.hostingprod.com/@www.maydaisy.com/ssl/terms.php?pid=2200

    ( this will soon become void )

  984. DR said,

    October 30, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    It is not wise to give out “invitations” to clubs like this. Be wise Mr/Miss May Daisy…..That way you might end up letting in people into the club that you don’t know. All clubs are private EXCEPT WORLDWISE. All other clubs you can only get in with a referral.

  985. May Daisy said,

    October 30, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    You used the invitation didn’t you? Didn’t you DR?

  986. DR said,

    October 30, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    No Sir, I did not use it….had no need to. Bless.

  987. May Daisy said,

    October 30, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    Its ok…I understand.

  988. DR said,

    October 30, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    No prob…stay blessed.

  989. HD said,

    October 30, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    Don’t get caught up in the “invitations” and “referal” requirement it is simply a tool used to support or help justify the model used to get money into the programs. WW uses a “partnership” model and therefore is less inclined or have a need to use a referal requirement. As long as they are not advertising, “selling” or soliciting new “partners” they are in the clear. Cash Plus uses a “participant” or “loaner” scheme and probably needs referal since they have so many other business entities that fall under the “Cash Plus” name that may need to advertise themselves. Other programs set themselves up as a club and therefore require it even more to help prove that they operate as a club. As you can see there are loop holes in the referal process but the programs don’t really care and are not trying to close these loop holes.

  990. DR said,

    October 30, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    We need all these clubs to stay open for a long time….at least for another 10 years…..I had a long talk with a Manager of a commercial bank today…and they were saying that FX trading is here to STAY. How do you all feel? It would be nice because we would all be rich…and JAMAICA could get itself out of debt if the govt gave the TRADERS some money. Talk to Bruce please…. Introduce Bruce to WW, CP, Olint, Nipo, Partners, Higgins etc….Come Mr PM…these clubs pay from 10% to 20% sir…..

  991. Patricia said,

    October 30, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    FX trading is nothing new..been around since Noah was a bwoy…technology, internet has made it more accessible/viable for many. So that it’s here to stay is moot….we just catching on all that’s all!!!……….BUT, we just need to stay clear of the scams, and stick to the proven clubs/traders/brokers etc.
    …not all traders are equal..some dont have a clue what they are doing…many big houses Merrill Lynch, Gain Bank, make -ve returns…so we need to be careful!!.

  992. HD said,

    October 30, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    Forex is here to stay in my opinion. It has become more visible the last few years because they have changed the process and make it possible for the layman to trade online or over the internet. Before you had to be able to have ties in the banking system and go in and submit trading forms on paper in order to do the trading. I would say it has been here a long time and is here to stay. There has been talk recently however in US government circles to try and regulate it as some in the US government think that it is the proliferation of “small traders” why the US dollar is loosing value. That thinking is BS in my opinion as the US dollar is loosing value because of the Iraq war, lack of respect for the US overseas due to the war and George W Bush, US government idebtidness, US consumer indebtidness, and the US mortgage and housing crisis.

    Trust me, I think Bruce already know about Olint. wink wink. Did he not say recently that he thinks Jamaica should become an offshore banking center ? I guess he wants us to be the next Cayman Islands or Panama or Turks and Caicos ( I live in Canada but I am still Jamaican). You would need more David Smiths in the country in order to make it work however and he would need to change some laws and invest in the education and development of the banking system including traders and managers in order to make it successful.

  993. HD said,

    October 30, 2007 at 8:18 pm

    FYI…I think the idea of making Jamaica an offshore banking haven is a good idea by the way.

  994. John Doe said,

    October 30, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Can anyone say what are the returns that MayDaisy is offering?

  995. anthonythelandman said,

    October 30, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Dominik how long have you been with Lewfam? Can you email me
    anthonythelandman@yahoo.com

  996. DR said,

    October 30, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    Yes Bruce certainly knows about David Smith and Carlos Hill……even if he does not know….rumour has it that the finance committee of the JLP knows about David Smith and Cash Plus. Certainly Premeir Leagues football is linked to Edward Seaga….hmmm….thoughts?

  997. Nes said,

    October 30, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    MAY Daisy,

    Please please could you send me an invitation, I have been waiting to get in you
    club.

    shishi_jamaicanbrat.com

    Thanks

  998. Nes said,

    October 31, 2007 at 12:04 am

    MAY Daisy,

    Please please could you send me an invitation, I have been waiting to get in your
    club.

    kaybron@yahoo.com

    Thanks

  999. DR said,

    October 31, 2007 at 12:29 am

    Yes people…TVJ business news with Owen James, tuesday Oct 30..says Don Webby and Audley Shaw have started looking at making a Jamaica an off-shore banking center….Jamaica is on the right path….FSC just need to ALLOW the traders….Give them a break…..it is the best thing that has ever happen to Jamaicans….We can all be millionaires next year…..WOW…..great thought….soon-to-be great feeling.

  1000. HD said,

    October 31, 2007 at 3:09 am

    Everyone, DR is really excited…someone quick go to his home and contain him before him buss.

  1001. Big Investor said,

    October 31, 2007 at 4:12 am

    Not that I am fighting down anybody but I don’t think people should be trying to get referred into these investment clubs by making a request here. This forum is good for us to exchange ideas and experiences and information but I personally think that one should refer somebody he/she knows and while we rap everyday – we don’t know each other. Mr./Ms. Maydaisy – I would appreciate if you keep Maydaisy an exclusive club. All those persons trying to get in will eventually know somebody who is in it and as such will be genuinely referred. Same applies to Cashplus, Olint and all the others that require referrals.

  1002. VMS said,

    October 31, 2007 at 4:42 am

    I am still waitng for the Lewfam referral..rashheed@hotmail.com.. Thank you

  1003. Patricia said,

    October 31, 2007 at 6:36 am

    HD,

    Greenback’s losing of its value is all about poor market confidence, rising oil commodity prices, and yes the fool fool war, but hey we in C’da may not be celebrating for long. As some experts predict that by next yr loonie back at 85-90 cents, with softening in commodity prices……., but s long as the volatility continues its good for the currency markets, too much govt protectionist intervention..ie regulation is not good. To defend the greenback they need to clean up their internal mess, the clock is ticking on that happening…ie countdown to the next election.

  1004. Joelle Clayton said,

    October 31, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    big investor u need to get with it. in case u haven’t realised cash plus has started giving rewards to those who refer persons to the club. the more ppl u refer the more money u earn towards the purchase of any cp development… you sound just like the people trying to keep the profits for themeselves! and ppl want u to refer ppl to these clubs so anybody who want a referral fo cp e-mail me at bashy_joey@hotmail.com… giving everybody a chance to make money too weather i know u or not! cp will decipher for themselves if the money’s coming from ligit sources!

  1005. Charlibabe said,

    October 31, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Hey guys,
    I am not sure if this is a fact or a rumour but has anyone heard that ‘CP’ and HIggins Warner are to close in December due to orders from the world bank to BOJ????

    Anyone??????

  1006. Charlibabe said,

    October 31, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Hey Guys,

    I am not sure if this is a rumour or if its a fact but, has anyone heard that ‘CP’ and Higgin Warner are to close in December due to orders from the World Bank to BOJ?

    Anyone????

  1007. Big Investor said,

    October 31, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Okay Joelle Clayton – good for you

  1008. Investment Tech said,

    October 31, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Big Investor you sound like a big meany. U jus want to know say you are getting profit and nobody else. If you want an exclusive club form one with you self. People free up the invitations, everybody must mek money.

  1009. AD' said,

    October 31, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    TEST

  1010. christopher johnson said,

    October 31, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    i want to invest in ur org. send me some info. please

  1011. Dominik said,

    October 31, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    I agree with #1004 Joelle. I was referred to LewFam by someone who did not know me personally.

    Before LewFam, OLINT, etc. will accept your funds to trade, you will have to provide them with proof of the source of funds (eg. checking, savings account).

    The crab effect has kept too many people in the bucket. It’s just my opinion, but i believe that everyone should prosper.

  1012. DR said,

    October 31, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    All the best for this month-end, fellow investors. I did NOt hear the rumour about the World Bank instructions to BOJ, with regards to CP and HigginsWarner… but there is rumour that CP cheques are bouncing….I hope it is not true…..

  1013. DR said,

    October 31, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Let’s keep all the clubs in prayer…..AMEN! They’ve been good to us all…..agree?

  1014. TAGR said,

    November 1, 2007 at 12:03 am

    Need info on Olint

  1015. TAGR said,

    November 1, 2007 at 12:05 am

    That was a Test. Will be back on later to give more info.
    I have read all the above.

  1016. AD' said,

    November 1, 2007 at 1:11 am

    TAGR what kind of information do you need on Olint!

  1017. VMS said,

    November 1, 2007 at 1:22 am

    Since this week It is strongly being rumored that C+ is on the verge of collapsing … So everyone i know is panicking. can anyone shed some light on the situation for me?? thanks

  1018. VMS said,

    November 1, 2007 at 1:27 am

    I went to cash plus yesterday and the amount of people i saw there its really hard to think they are in trouble.. I know the people i saw are not withdrawing because they relocated the withdrawal office.. So its just Additions and New clients.. So if they dont have any money in there account wouldn’t they be able to pay from all the new clients coming in daily..

  1019. Gail said,

    November 1, 2007 at 2:49 am

    DOMINIK, you have a good spirit about you. It is wonderful to wish that everyone would be prosperous.

    GOD BLESS YOU AND EVERYONE ON THIS SITE.

    Thanks to you Patricia for your insight and AD and Pound you guys are full of info. thanks to you DRE for providing this vehicle for communicaiton.

  1020. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    November 1, 2007 at 2:57 am

    Andre, It would appear that your site needs more storage or memory enhancement, it is showing signs of slowing down. There is a lot going to happen relatively soon and it is of paramount importance that this site does not crash.

  1021. JK said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:19 am

    1020…………i thought it was my computer giving problems

    any ways i seen my interest for october in my WW account but im rolling it over for now

  1022. anthonythelandman said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:20 am

    I hear that Olint will be taking new clients later this year I hear that from a JA journalist who did several stories on David Smith, now I have a question for the forum ..I am a US resident and f1investments tell me that I am not allowed to join the club. They dont do business with US individuals? Anyone know why and Will Olint have the same policy?

  1023. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:23 am

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    Remember to help someone if you can and if you see or hear something, say something.
    The best investor is the one in the Mirror, because you are the best one to take control of your money if you are not mislead.

  1024. Pound Kat Ridge said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:41 am

    Warning, the article I am about to reference has nothing to do with present situations, but as investors I think it will provide interesting reading going forward.

    Google 10 Million Westchester Scheme

  1025. anthonythelandman said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:44 am

    What proof do we have that David Smith trades for lewfam?Help someone I really want to invest.

  1026. Anthony said,

    November 1, 2007 at 6:05 am

    Hi guys
    I notice that cash plus has started drawing checks on RBTT bank is any one aware if they still draw checks on NCB?
    Also can anyone say what bank wordwise draw their checks on?

  1027. HD said,

    November 1, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Pound I notice the same thing. I notice the page “sticks” sometimes in IE but in Firefox it is fine. Maybe Andre can move some of the comments to another link or create another blog entry along the same theme and point us there with a URL.

  1028. DR said,

    November 1, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Worldwise cheques are drwan on RBTT. #1026. I wonder if there is a fall-out between CP and NCB. I find it a bit strange. Could Lee-chin be trying to clear himself completely from alternative Investments? Remeber he came out distancing himself from worldwise club. Well as far as I know he still does business for Olint…..hmmm any thoughts. Afterall the rumour says that the Cash Plus NCB cheques were bouncing……

  1029. DR said,

    November 1, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    Is their a conspiracy to “shut down” Cash Plus. Why is BNS & NCB giving CP such a hard time. I am afraid that after a while, you will get a big cheque from CP but won’t be able to negotiate it, because some banks are refusing…..People remember there are Only 4 commercial banks in Jamaica. If 2 are giving trouble already…watch out!

  1030. HD said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    I am not generally a conspiracy theorist but if it is true that BNS and NCB are giving a hard time it is interesting to note that both banks have Canadian links and Lee Chin has lots of links in Canada with the influence of AIC…. note that RBTT was bought by RBC (another Canadian bank) recently…hmmm.

  1031. KidChillin said,

    November 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    #1022. I was told F1 cant take U.S residents because they are not registered with the IRS. Because of this, there is no way for the IRS to tax individuals living in the U.S. I thinkg they just want to stay on the safe side, knowing if a U.S want to invest in theier company a flight on Spirit is very cheap.

    I have been following the media very closely here in the States. I have yet to seen in the news, but there will be a day when the word gets out. When that day gets here the IRS will gets invlolved and start investigating, if they have not already started doing so. As we all know people in the end they want thier piece of the pie as well.

    To all my investers out there I urge you to talk to your accountants, because with these high returns it is very easy to get greedy and want to keep it all. It is better to be safe than sorry. Uncle Sam has never been a friend of mine but I would hate to be his enemy too. C.Y.A people and good luck.

  1032. mathetes said,

    November 1, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Greetings Friends

    In light of the slower loading time of the comments section, I decided to create a new comments page for your convenience: located here http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/open-channel/ . Please write all comments here. Hopefully it will load faster. Thank you.

    Keep the Channels Open http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/open-channel/

    Andre

  1033. mathetes said,

    November 1, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    Greetings again

    The blog is about “freeing up” information and pointing people to the end of the rainbow. So please feel free to refer people if yuh want.

    NCB and BNS have been frustrating the wiring processes of Lewfam and Olint’s clients from long time. Since cashplus they have restricted their workers from being members (BNS in particular).

    Read proverbs, pray, listen and read all the Kyosaki, Robert Allen, Donald Trump, Napolian Hill, Warren Buffett stuff that is out there and the only person that can limit your potential to earn and maximize your wealth is YOU – NO ONE ELSE – not the bank, fsc, not the “mean-as(s)” who didnt refer u.

    Increase your leverage and your lid by educating yourself and then make informed investment decisions.

    Bless Up!
    Andre

  1034. Patricia said,

    November 1, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    Its simple, if NCB, BNS wont accept your CashPlus cheque, open an account at a financial institution that will. People have the power, so dont be afraid to use it!!

    It seems to me that WW not getting as much attention as other clubs, why is that???? Aren’t their rates and terms attractive enough????…Can anyone speak about their experience with them. I’m sure it would be beneficial to many to know, as so many folks are asking for referrals to other clubs, and I dont think you need one to join WW. #1021(JK)…could you give us your feedback……

    Stay Blessed and Safe I hear the rains continue…so keep dry too.

  1035. Larry said,

    November 1, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    Does anyone know what the gain with Olint was for October?

  1036. mathetes said,

    November 1, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    Re Olint,

    I think it’s going to be close to 15% based upon the projection indicated on their activity graph; additionally, I heard that the 1st week of trade was record high for David Smith.

    Andre

  1037. TheOne said,

    November 1, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    Too bad so many of us can’t get into Olint. They seem tried, proven and more secure than the others. What’s the big deal keeping folks out?

  1038. TheOne said,

    November 1, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    Here is a great site for Forex Education: http://www.babypips.com/
    I’m learning so much already.

  1039. Patricia said,

    November 1, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Andre,
    Do you have any insights on the likelihood of Olint opening up any time soon?….many of us kotchers really want to know, as well as folks who’d love to get in…..figured you are the best person to ask here, given your response at 1036

  1040. Big Investor said,

    November 1, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    :-9

  1041. Venture Capitalist said,

    November 1, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Andre how are you doing!

    What makes you think the projections would be around 15% I was looking at the graph activity report for the last period and it was at 11.05% for the 2006 period. I know historic returns are not a reflection of future performance but boy if you are right on this one we can smile for another good month ☺. I just spoke to W.Smith but he said DS had not sent over the report, I suspect later this afternoon or in the morning. Cheers Andre and I ‘ll have to FedEx you over a bottle of Tanqueray Rangpur and the November issue of Portfolio on a 15% gain. It’s really good to see that you have kept up this blog on the positive side of things. When I spoke to DS back in September of 2007 I mentioned this blog and how it was bringing people from all over together speaking about issues on Olint, that was the story back them he smiled. Andre your blog has become so mainstream and attracts a commercial audience that I don’t really go to bed without reviewing the last post just around 2:00 am US time and the first thing in the morning before I get my paper and coffee at around 7:00am my time. I guess it has become sort of an obsession you wait to see what will be the latest news and hope that it reflects positive views on the situation sometime I find myself pondering over some of the comments by bloggers, we all have a character in us so I guess when I read this I see everyone’s concern and delights what are they trying to relay. Then I wonder why don’t you get more involved in the situation. You are always so very constructive in your answers and you style of writing would suggest that you are a radical of some sorts but you maintain a very exclusive point of view. As I said earlier the FedEx package will arrive for thanksgiving☺. So you will be able to read the article on the big investment banks loaded with dangerous amounts of debt, I wonder if we are facing their own version of a sub prime slump.

    Once again thank you for giving me the opportunity to voice opinions and concerns it has surly been delightful.

    Venture Capitalist

  1042. NM said,

    November 1, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    Hi folks how are the big investers doing.

  1043. anthonythelandman said,

    November 2, 2007 at 12:13 am

    Does anyone on here invest with Dr. Glen Brown or know of anyone, he has no losing trades, anyway his company is called prolific investments out of Kingston and you need 25,000 USD to get in!

  1044. Michael said,

    November 2, 2007 at 1:26 am

    A Higgins Warner representive spoke to a friend of mine and said they were having problems with NCB. They are holding H.W. cashiers checks longer than normal and it’s causing payments to be late.
    Has anyone heard that Cash Plus is buying a bank ? I think it’s in Bermuda. Ispoke to C.P. today but they would not confirm or deny .

  1045. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 2:11 am

    Isn’t CP spending too much money….Drax Hall, Hilton, Mainland Hardware, International Airlink and now a bank in Bermuda? WHAT!…..so where are they going to get money to pay out 14%….not to mention 18%… I am concerned.

  1046. TAGR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:26 am

    Hey AD could you please contact me about OLINT?
    You can email me @ tagr1@aol.com.
    Respect

  1047. JSM said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:30 am

    Hey does anyone know how to contact Cash Plus by Email? I have an account there but they will not email me back when I email them.

  1048. JK said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:42 am

    well lemme report on WW i have seen my first 12% interest been credited to my account so ……so far so good
    but as i am doing compound interest with the hopes of doubling over the next couple months i still have to keep my fingers crossed

  1049. JK said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:45 am

    oh and for the previous month i got my prorated interest which worked out to be 4.8%

    anyone in hear who have actually collected from WW

    so far the only complaints i been hearing is the fact that there isnt any parking lol

    but if anyone else has anything to say please dont be affraid we should be our brothers keepers
    as if i heard anything or lost any money i wouldnt refrain from posting it here

  1050. PoorRiskTeka said,

    November 2, 2007 at 11:58 am

    My experience is the same as ours JK. I recieved my initial prorated interest, and I am now on my second month at the full interest rate. Like you too I am keeping my fingers crossed, as I have chosen to roll over :)

    We just have to keep our ears to the ground. I also have a friend that works there that keeps me informed.

  1051. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    WW and CP are the most on-time paying clubs I’ve found….! (they pay on the last day of every month). The others pay more but tend to pay 5 days into the next month.

  1052. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    Are the commercial bank managers living in denial about the money these clubs are making or are they speaking out of IGNORANCE. I was ignorant too….I use to say “nobody can pay 10% per month”…until I discovered that the actual traders make sometimes more than 10% per day…..In some cases all the way up to 300% per month. One top trader in the world made 800% in one day.

    It is said that the same bank managers are themselves in an 80% per month exclusive club in JA. Are they just trying to fool us?

  1053. Michael said,

    November 2, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    JMS unfortunately the best way to contact Cash Plus is by phone it took me 16 days to hear from them after wireing funds and sending several e-mails.Did I mention that I also had to call on the 16th day for them to finally contact me. The rep. apologised and said they were very,very, busy so keep trying .Good luck.

  1054. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    Is it true that HigginsWarner and NCB are in court?

  1055. Patricia said,

    November 2, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    The following is extracted from an interview with BNS Bill Clarke, done by Barbara Ellington, of the Gleaner……Now he is the head of the biggest bank in JA, and check out this maths brains from primary school…..AAAAWWW COME ON BILL!!!, enough of the hyperbole and scare tactics, the rates are really wack, but your maths is dead wrong…100k @ 18% for 5 years, compounded is approx $1.67B, not over $6B.

    FROM THE GLEANER:

    BE: Give me your view on the recent increase in quick money-making schemes; just about everyone is trading in foreign exchange. What do you think about them?

    WBC: We like quick money. No one is willing to work, so with offers of from 10 to 18 per cent, these are attractive.

    We did a calculation on one of them that said if you keep your money with them for five years, you get 18 per cent. If you invest $100,000 for five years at 18 per cent per month, at the end of five years you will have over $6 billion. Where does that make sense? People have been sucked in badly. This includes educated people, and many elderly church people are being sucked in and told that these investors have a gift from God.

  1056. Patricia said,

    November 2, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    If the int is compounded monthly in 60months it is actually $2055515008.00

  1057. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    aww Bill…..come on get with It. Employ a trader for your commercial bank and we will put money in your bank….Like TVJ..just look at us now….we have

    1. Cash Plus Premier League Football
    2. Olint Corp / Air Jamaica Jazz & Blues Festival…..

    (maybe soon to come) ha h a ha who knows?

    Worldwise Golf tournament, F1 cricket, HigginsWarner Reggae Sunsplash…and the many others that I refuse to name here. (ha)

    Get with the program Bill….notice how quiet The Duncans have become…..they are enjoying our interest being pumped back into JMMB: come on Bill, be happy for our interest will be great! wow!

    In five years (2012) the current Fxtraders & investors will have ‘billions’ to pumb back into BNS,NCB, and the others! Who has ears to hear let them hear.

  1058. Patricia said,

    November 2, 2007 at 2:24 pm

    ..that man just gets on my nerves, and he is getting more dotish in his old age….

  1059. Michael said,

    November 2, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    #1054 A friend of mine spoke to a rep. from Higgins Warner Argentina and was told that NCB is holding the cashiers checks for extended periods and it’s causing H.W. payments to be a few days late.

  1060. Kevin2 said,

    November 2, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    Jamaica has this problem that only the big man (including politician) must prosper. The little man must never get too close financial to the big man otherwise the status & power that the big man has will be diminished in society. This is the case with these investments. The thought of $millions (or $billions ??) getting into the hands of the ordinary man is really worrying a number of these big guys. The potential is there that the small man wealth could even surpass that of the big guys. So what do the bankers and the heads of such organisations do…………constantly bad mouth these investments. I would bet that some of them are in these investments themselves through the back door (using aliases or other family members)

  1061. Kevin2 said,

    November 2, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Is OLINT’s October return out yet?

  1062. Venture Capitalist said,

    November 2, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Hello Kevin it was about 10.76%

    Cheers All the best.

  1063. Kevin2 said,

    November 2, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Venture Capitalist,

    Is that confirmed?

  1064. redwood said,

    November 2, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    what is the return for olint last month

  1065. redwood said,

    November 2, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    october that is

  1066. redwood said,

    November 2, 2007 at 5:56 pm

    anyone who have links can get me into olint with my own accouny

  1067. redwood said,

    November 2, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    what u people think of ww

  1068. Venture Capitalist said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    Yes that’s confirmed, Kevin.

    Regards

  1069. JK said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    redwood WW is good for me so far lol

    i waiting another 5 months b4 i take out any money tho

    trying to double up

  1070. KidChillin said,

    November 2, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    A Friend of mine contacted Olint and 10.76% is confirmed

  1071. Kevin2 said,

    November 2, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    Everyone,

    Andre created the other comment forum (see ‘open channel’ at the top of the page on the left hand side). I think we should all move over to that comment page as this one is becoming too slow in response times.

    We should continue to check this page and direct others over to the new one if they don’t know about it.

  1072. Deigo said,

    November 2, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    Hello everyone,

    Can anyone give me any info on f1investment?

  1073. redwood DIST said,

    November 2, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    jk it look like me an u join the same time but i dont think i will wait that long

  1074. redwood DIST said,

    November 2, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    if i invest 100k for 3 years any one know if iwill still get 18% ?

  1075. DR said,

    November 2, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Do not “lock” in for 5 years unless you are taking your interest every month…..Remember they don’t guarantee anything….Who says they’ll be up for 5 years….I would only lock for six months at a time. BE CAREFUL!

  1076. redwood DIST said,

    November 2, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    out of all these club i think ww /olint the best ones but how can i join olint?

  1077. Anthonythelandman said,

    November 3, 2007 at 1:47 am

    How is Lewfam’s new fx account with Gain Capital. I was told after a losing month in August they came back strong in Sept and OCT with gains like 17% per month can anyone confirm? This fund is for ppl in the USA especially. Email me with comments anthonythelandman@yahoo.com

  1078. Anthony said,

    November 3, 2007 at 1:53 am

    I notice the banks r beginning to organize against the poor in an attempt to protect the rich. It reminds me of slavery and I would rather lose trying than be forced to accept their annual interest which is not even able to buy spring water.
    Let us continue to educate each other and cause a rebellion like none ever seen by these oppressive financial institutions and who knows maybe when the smoke clears and we read the social part of the gleaner in the future we will have caused a change to the names that we continue to see every week as the elite of the Jamaican society.
    Let us also be weary of our less fortunate and teach them how to fish by combining their resources to prove that united we shall stand.
    The oppressors never imagined that poor people’s money was so powerful and as a result they have always taken us for granted and look at what has happened now that we have joined hands. They now cower behind close doors with whips in hand planning a counter attack to herd us back in the pen. I was born free and refuse to die without a fight. What say u all?

  1079. AD' said,

    November 3, 2007 at 3:11 am

    Anthony we all need to take out an Public Advert in the Gleaner and the Observer regarding the lousy interest rate that the banks are giving there customers. We need to get more creative in how we approach these issues. We all need to take a vote on this.

    Regards

  1080. Kevin2 said,

    November 3, 2007 at 3:47 am

    I think everyone should move over to the “open channel” page since this page is getting too long and is loading slow. See top left hand section at the bottom.

  1081. DR said,

    November 3, 2007 at 11:20 am

    Yes they gave us lousy rates for years…and they made the social pages. NOW it’s our time to make REAL MONEY.. It is out time to drive SUV’s, X5’s and Hummers. The time has come to earn good interest on your money.

  1082. Patricia said,

    November 3, 2007 at 11:51 am

    Andre and/or Venture Capitalist, you gentlemen, seem to have “access” to the people in the know. Can either of you say if and when OLINT will be taking in new members? There are so many rumours..and us “kothchers” really need to know!!..Can you help ????

  1083. PoorRiskTeka said,

    November 3, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    anthony #1078 you couldnt have said it better… i say here, here to that one.. and i am a banker.. its totally ridiculous man

  1084. PoorRiskTeka said,

    November 3, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    i dont see what all the fuss is about with the banks.. all we the little ppl are doing is trying to make some money to play with… all we’re trying to do is play the high risk game to get some money and go right back to their low investment. all the money they fear losing will come right back to them eventually… as we do wanna keep what we have made safe

    so hey banks keep your calm…

    as individuals all we need to do is have our heads on our bodies do not allow greed to be our guide…

  1085. DR said,

    November 3, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    Banks need to settle down and wait on our interest. For years they did nothing with our principal….as a matter of fact they gave us interest below the rate of inflation…..WHAT A WICKED ACT!

  1086. venture Capitalist said,

    November 3, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    Hello Patricia

    Sorry for my late response to your question.
    At this moment they have suspended all new as accounts as you already know, I have know idea as to when they will re-open. When I speak with DS or WS I will be sure to inform you further on this matter. It’s very surprising but allot of people knew about OLINT 4 years ago and were very skeptical about joining the club due to its fairly new existence. If you have a very trustworthy friend or relative with an account I would assume you could get on there account until they decide to reopen the club.

    Regards.

    VC

  1087. Babs said,

    November 3, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Every-one please move over to” open channel”. For the link, look at the upper left hand side of this page. Or check #1032. Pleeeeeeease!!!! this page is too long and slow.

  1088. KidChillin said,

    November 4, 2007 at 12:27 am

    The link for the continuation blog was posted on comment #1033. Add it to your favorites.

  1089. Babs said,

    November 4, 2007 at 12:30 am

    The link #1032

  1090. PoorRiskTeka said,

    November 4, 2007 at 12:32 am

    guys heres the link again for the new page…for posting your comments

    http://wealthmax.wordpress.com/open-channel/

  1091. JSM said,

    November 4, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    GOOD DAY FELLOW BLOGGERS. THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU OUT THERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO GET INTO OLINT. IF YOU ARE SERIUOSLY INTERESTED IN DOING SO YOU CAN CONTACT ME. MY CONTACT INFO IS AS FOLLOWS, jsm81065@hotmail.com . ONLY SERIOUS INQUIRIES SHOULD CONTACT ME.

  1092. shaneil said,

    November 5, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    hey HD whats up i hierd u mention about u involve im us investments, would u be so kind to share a couple so i can do my resear